Will we get a syncretistic religion?

So you mean somethimg that is not that new in the history of the last 6000 years, but what has really become new since the modern Occidental times is the huge dimension, the technical development, especially the enormous acceleration of the technical development, and - as a result - the possibility that machines replace all human beings. Humans have always tried to design a new religion, but this time the designers will probably either integrate or exterminate all humans of this planet, and this will probably include a huge reduction of the number of the humans.

I think of it more as a semi-humanness. The machines being somewhat like us. I would guess that the seeds of the philosophical bias and need have always been around, but sure, they have taken on more obvious forms recently. A real anti-life hatred, that in most of its advocates is not fully conscious. And you can do a lot of this destruction of life via psychology. IOW there have been cultural facets in parenting, training, societal organization, religion, etc., for a long time that want to squeeze the life out of humans - and out of the world in general. You don’t need AI and nano and gm to do this, but these technologies can be used much more effectively. And I suppose the main point I want ot make is it comes from a metaphysical/religious position, though most of today’s powerful advocates think of themselves not to be religious.

I often say that those who say or/and think that they are not religious are more religious than those who say or/and think that they are religious. Not the truth but the lie is the easier and more effective way when it comes to get, to keep, and to expand power.

Once the significance of the machines out weighs that of humans, humans will simply be outmoded and shortly eliminated, no different than horses in the transportation industry. The process is already well on its way. Machines allow for remote controlled pseudo-life on Earth - the Godwannabe’s dream.

CAn that change? (not that I disagree with what you have said. Mistreating yourself, in certain ways, leads to power and the mistreatment of others. Accepting only a part of yourself and mistreating the other parts is another way to label the issue.)

Well, the rulers need the lie in order to rule, and those who are ruled need the lie in order to not to be pushed over the edge. The truth is that humans need the lie and that humans also need the truth in order to overcome the lie, but the question is whether and, if yes, when they will fully overcome the lie (when the machines will have taken over ? ? ?).

According to the Vicar I spoke to… great!

They are community churches that hold community events as well as your standard mass service, so the appeal is magnified to a wider audience of attendees. On Easter Sunday one of my local churches screened a film… complete with live music score, and there was a procession of the ‘bearing of the cross’ consisting of churches from all over London… I wish I’d made it to them, but family were round. :neutral_face:

No they won’t. Machines will never outweigh the flexible and limitless capabilities of human beings, for they are mere automatons made by us, and that there has never been a demonstration of a robot showing some true autonomy.

In consideration of the fact that humans control, want to control, and have to control humans because of the human will to recognition, appreciation, acceptance, acknowledgement, tribute, credit, thus to power, the probability of the realisation of that “limitless capabilities” you are talking about, is unfortunately reduced.

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A “Christianity without God and Jesus Christ” would not be a Christianity anymore. It would be a modern religion, thus an ideological exercise, an ideological training.

If spirituality is an exercise or a training, then it is something like a religion too (see above), thus “beyond religion” is a rhetorical term - used in order to get the global version of something like a syncretistic religion.

Will we ever get a non syncretic religion. ALL religions are syncretic.

You are wrong again. Try to read this thread or at least the following text:

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Or they think they need the lie. I tend to think unfaced fears on all sides are the root of the problem. Also I do not accept that what is take for self-interest or even will to power is actually self-interest or, hm, how to put this, an effective way of getting power. To come at it from the side…the powers that be seem very scared to me. Reactive and even sloppy, these days. Note: it is not the sloppiness that I think is the problem, it’s a sign of the fear. Its what they think they want and what a good life is that seems loopy to me. Note: I am not saying that what they promote for others as a good life is loopy - that is also true - but what they think a good base of self-interest is.

What planet are you from?
Why is there Father Christmas, Yule tide Logs, Robins, Mistletoe, Holly and Ivy, and the Trinity; in a Middle Eastern Religion when NONE of these appear in the Bible?
Answer all religions including Christianity are cobbled together from other ones.

What is it that you don’t understand about the syncretistic images that you have posted?

Yes, that was my assumption. The problem is that they do not always know what lie and what truth is. :wink:

Every human has a self-interest, a drive to be recognised, a will to live - you may also call it a “will to power”.

We think of religion of a political tool, just as any “belonging to” any group is a political tool.
These just so happen to be such effective tools because our impulse to belong is so strong.
Not only that , but religion combines this desire to be under a banner with another deep set impulse, the desire to marvel and be overwhelmed and take a glimpse at something of transcendent beauty and importance.
Religion, for that reason, will always exist. If the ones that we have now are not good enough, we’ll make up other ones to replace them. If our civilization is wiped out, and with it our gods, other gods will come to take its place.
However, on the question of wether we will have one religion composed of all others, I think probably not, as this desire to say “I am like these” is meaningless without the ability to say “I am unlike those”.

I agree. Humans want the difference - even if we call religions „misunderstood spiritual exercise systems“ (Peter Sloterdijk). So they will exist as long as human beings or other religious beings will exist.

Religions, 2010-2050:

I guess the USA’s national religion, “Human Secularism” is classified under “Other Religions” in those charts. I have to wonder why they speculate that it will grow so slowly.