Women are Morally Superior

A woman is a human being who is genetically female and who makes decisions considering her offspring, potential offspring, or offspring via extrapolation. The whole of humanity is destructive in nature: that seems to be the default mode. A female acting not out of the interests of her offspring, potential offspring, or offspring by extrapolation is not a “woman” but is acting just as the rest of humanity. Destruction is not a morally sound act overall, although, the case can be made that individual acts of destruction have the potential to be morally sound. Women innately act in the best interests of humankind and thus are morally superior. On the same token, any woman who carries life and decides to terminate that life can do so only from a morally superior position because she is carrying life. No man or other barren woman can be on the same level as her in making such decision simply because they are not carrying life. This makes her morally superior to them. A female can terminate a pregnancy because to carry that life to term is inconvenient for her. She has the right to behave in that manner but such a decision predicated on something as shallow as inconvenience may not be a moral decision.

Any thoughts?

Jamie

Jamie

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Laughs.

Yeah actually in that me and somebody else have already started a similar conversation very recently.

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i think the whole notion of moral superiority needs serious deconstruction before we can even begin to take seriously statements like “women are morally superior”

That’s precisely what people said about the Earth when it was assumed to be flat and someone came up with the idea that it might be round. Or perhaps even better, Newton, how he was chastised for ideas and then made them reality. And furthermore, Einstein and John Nash among countless others.

Is this a philosophy forum or a pseudo-philosophy forum?

Jamie

Define what you are calling “morality” if you want conversation. But I can tell you in advance, you are barking up a very familiar, well circumscribed tree (well, to others of course). You will probably not like what you discover.

If that were so, there would be no humanity, as it would have destroyed itself.

IF humans would be destructuve by nature, then woman would be most guilty of their destruction, since she brings them forth.

By your definitions, enabling destruction is a morally superior act.

By your definitions, abortion would be the only moral option.

Totally agree. This is not just a “let’s blame it all on Eve” scenario or one that should be seen only from the perspective of sexist men.

The whole idea of what is “moral” and what is meant by “superiority” and what that implies in every sense needs to be fleshed out. Then we can discuss why men want to answer the question -for- women instead of viewing it through a more comprehensive lens which includes their own anima.

:laughing: Awsome.

man is moral when he is virtuous despite his nature, to say he is so because of his nature is to posit a world in which bravery could exist without fear.

That’s it?! I hope, for your own sake, that you are not a woman.

This is highly debatable. I don’t think humanity is inherently “good” or “bad”, “constructive” or “destructive” – we have the capacity to be either. My perspective is that we are inherently disorganized in virtue. In other words, we aren’t inherently indifferent either; we become naturally invested in the virtues we cultivate.

The rest of humanity being men? There are still fundamental differences between a male and female, ‘man’ and ‘woman’, that go beyond mere aesthetics.

How so (more than anyone else)? Men act in the best interest of their offspring as well; no? We may not physically carry the child, but men do seek protection and stability for the child, even during pregnancy. I’ve even met some couples in which the men seem more concerned about the child (yet unborn, or otherwise) than the woman.

The physical act of ‘carrying life’ is morally inferior to the sentimental investment in that life. A woman carrying a child is not morally superior to anyone, that is not a difficult task to achieve. A woman carrying a child that she cares about, or is emotionally invested in, is morally superior - in a way - simply because her personal ethic must now act in the best interest of more than one life. Men who become emotionally invested act in this way too though, so I’m not sure the act of physically carrying a baby adds any moral value to a person (in fact, in some cases, it can degrade the moral integrity of person).

She has right to terminate simply because she is now responsible for the life, as is (or should be) the father. The only difference is that the father is not physically connected to the child until it is born. Inconvenience, in my opinion, is irrelevant from a moral stand point. A woman has a right to not get pregnant because of superficial preference as such, but termination of a life must be considered in a bit more depth. A woman does, indeed, have a right to choose – what that choice is predicated upon is a moral dilemma, however it seems that moral decisions are often based on perceived practicality at this point. This is where the decisions often become immoral, or even amoral, in my opinion.

For example, you may have one woman who aborts because having a kid won’t fit with her desire to go to the bar every night and get hammered. Whereas another woman may choose to abort a baby that is a product of sexual assault.

In my opinion the former is an example of immorality in the choice to abort, while the latter is a case of amoral choice. Both based on moral practicality, as the former knows that partying every night would damage a baby and give it a terrible environment to grow up in, while the latter might expect to resent the child for being a product of something traumatic.

All in all though, I still don’t see how this makes a woman morally superior. Ideally, the male counterpart should be equally invested in the child, as well as the dilemma as to whether or not having the baby is morally practical.

Excellent observation. Very true.

Good thing you are on the “right” side of the politically-correct line, bashing men and not women or Africans…otherwise you might be warned and banned for spreading hatred.

Also doesn’t matter how simple you are, just as long as you are on the “right” side of that weakling line…that vengeance against those that confront inferiority and preach compassion for all, especially the weakest of all, and hatred against all that stand before it, especially the strongest of all.

This post, and all your comments on this post have been the most interesting things I’ve read on this site so far. I don’t think I heard one of you mention another “thinker” as validation for your responses, nor did anyone use the word “presupposes”. Kudos. I’m inspired.

Fromlostdays.

P.S. Choice should always take priority over morality, indeed choice should be the POINT of morality. I happen to find, with my obvious limitations on its true nature, abortion to be very immoral in almost all cases. However, I’ll fight tooth, nail, and currently intoxicated brain cells for your right to do it.

Has a human being ever been born so conflicted?