Women

I need to present to the audience here a little bit about myself and my current situation in life, so that I may put this thread and essay in the proper context that I desire for you-the-reader to understand well. I am completely anti-social. And let me reiterate myself; I am completely anti-social. The reason for this has to do with my genetics, the ancestry of my parents, and my memetics, the environmental nurturing of my youth. This means that I have no social relationships whatsoever outside of my immediate family, including my biological parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, and cousins. Even these relationships are extremely strained and loosely-held. I barely maintain contact with my mother and father, but they are my closest bond to the world.

I am an outsider-looking-in. I have no friends and I don’t want any. Over the past year of my life, pretty much to the day, I have ended the two closest friendships that I had in my life. I have also definitively quit pursuing a handful of women that I was attracted to. This leaves me utterly and completely alone, and I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I love it. On the other hand, I hate it. All of this symbolizes to me that I have a precarious relation to life itself and this causes me great mental anxieties from time-to-time. I live alone and keep to myself. I recently got a job and working there is the extent of my casual socialization on a weekly basis. Other then that, there is nothing.

The point of these descriptions are to exemplify that I have a unique perspective or vantage-point on life as a whole. My understanding of things is much different than anybody else I’ve ever met in my life. I have searched for people like me and I have found nobody. This is what drew me to philosophy. And initially, I had a hope that I might find somebody like-minded in my search, but I was mistaken again by my expectations. There have been some exceptions to those expectations, but it is and was not what I envisioned. I am satisfied, but still unhappy, insofar as my idealism remains. And it is a hard thing to remove the last threads of idealism that connects a man’s ego with reality. It is a maddening thing. With all that said, I will talk about what I was originally going to say.

Women.

They are something, aren’t they? I believe that they are. Men and women speak two entirely different languages and are fundamentally unable to understand one another except during rare times in life. These rare times in life are where an anomaly of time occurs. In fact, the entire dimensions of our physical universe bend to this very instance … of conception. It is sex. It is the sex act. It is when a male animal rapes a female animal and she is impregnated so that she may continue on Life itself. This is what it’s all about. However, intelligent and unintelligent see this process in a very different way. Unintelligent things seem to be unconscious about the meaning of life. They seem to be ignorant of it. And they are, by definition. So here, it should be easy to see that men & women, sex & rape, intelligence & ignorance all seem to have a connection with one another. How can a person begin to unravel this mess?

I could talk about a million things, but a few particular things are on my mind at the moment. These particular things revolve around women – and how men interact with women. From my point of view, men are essentially all the same and women are essentially all the same. Neither are “human”. And I want to make a brief rant about “humanity” before I move on further. The term “humanity” is an empiricist definition of specie that directly relates to scientific methodology. It has no meaning in-and-of-itself. Though, at some point in time, Western philosophy and spirituality took a hold of this scientific notion and applied them to themselves. The result of this was Humanist philosophies and religious ideologies/dogmas. The fundamental presumption of this classification was that “all men are created equal”. And any intelligent individual should recognize that women are not addressed here. There are many reasons for this…

Anyway, the results of Humanism should be familiar to any half-wit philosophy student today, or any studied person who stumbles across ILP. But there is a common misunderstanding of Humanism. This category is strictly a tool of social phenomenons directly pertaining, but not limited, to Globalization & Feminization. However, to me, both of these social phenomenons are essentially the same thing. What drives both of them is what I have deemed-to-be-called “Secular Christian Humanism”, or in other words, “Atheism”. The greatest fallacy of all here, which is the point of my divergence, is that the “human” category is actually non-existent. Like an ape has many breeds and sub-species, so does humanity. A particular poster recently decried philosophical anthropomorphism of points, but this is ludicrous when it coincides with almost all of what is spoken through contemporary philosophy. Therefore, “humanism” is bullshit. The “equality” ideology tied to it is bullshit. And the basis for which all of feminism has been built on through both humanism and equality is also bullshit. The remainder that a person is left with after understanding these facts is that the categorization of “men” & “women” is more fundamental in general. This is also easily seen linguistically.

Now I shall regress to the topic at hand and bring with me a bunch of baggage that coincides with what I need to bring with me from the beginning. Women shall attack me for the words I speak, because they need their dogmatic ideologies to survive and thrive. Without Secular Christian Humanism, Atheism, Humanism itself, Equality, or Feminism, then any given woman’s mentality will be exposed for what it is … empty. This is the primary divergence in thought between male and female animals. Women absolutely disregard, reject, and crucify me for writing all of this, but for a man, it will make extreme sense. Without these notions flowing through a woman’s brain, she cannot function in society today. She cannot think and she shall be reduced to her feelings & emotions. This is what I see separates men & women, not only from birth, but from conception.

When all ideologies and idealism are removed from the speaker, he or she is left with nothing. Men thrive under these conditions. These are the Roots of Man. And this is the only domain that men truly have left in our contemporary world. Without boundaries, there is nowhere left for the spirit of men to flow. The Feminization of Man is the result, completes itself, and “humanity” devours itself if not contained from within.

And what does this have to do with women or sex in general? It has everything to do with them. Because of my personal situation and experiences, life has taught me many interesting things. First of all, men are worthless inside society. They are. It cannot be debated. While men remain in society and take care of their children like a submissive pussy would (and I don’t necessarily mean this in a “bad” way), their genetic seeds and “spirit” become weakened with atrophy and decrepitude. And they cannot escape. When men have nowhere to go, being stuck in society, then “bad” things happen en masse. The result is violence, rape, crime, war, stealing, revolt, etc. etc. etc. You name it; men will do it. And why will they do it? Why will we do it? Here is the Truth of the matter…

The truth is, men care about one thing and one thing only. Men know what I’m talking about. Boom, the idea hits you if you’re a man. A woman on the other hand, has no idea what I’m talking about, nor do women have a concept of what I’m talking about. For women, it is a physical impossibility for them to know, otherwise the thing of which I’m speaking would never have occurred throughout human history. The concept is Sex! – of course. The thing is, men all know, innately, that this is all we want from women and men relate with each other very, very well on this matter. In fact, men help each other achieve sex where alliances are formed. This is the driving force behind packs, tribes, societies, cultures, allegiances, hierarchies, cultures, religions, and even Life itself. Platonic friendship is ideally about getting your (male) friends laid. That’s what the basis of all “friendship” is. And this relationship is the building block of human society. It’s about getting laid – and the more women that a man impregnates, the better.

Men are individualistic creatures. Women are not. Women are social creatures. Men are not. Now, this is not to say that one-or-the-other cannot appear to be crossing the line, because they can, but they will not ever cross the line, because of how the male and female bodies are physically different in crucial aspects. These aspects culminate around keeping the “human” race successful through sex. And it works, biologically. Men have sexual strategies. Women have (seemingly opposite) sexual strategies. Men engage in platonic friendships by hierarchical degrees. If a man is going to help another man get laid, then he is going to pick his brothers first, his cousins second, his best friends next, his useful friends next, and on and on. Though, there will come a point, and that point may be immediate, where a weaker man has no power to grant another man sexual rights. And these rights become fought over physically, violently, or through many other means. The basis for these conflicts, in every form, is power. If a man is powerful, then he gets mating rights every time. If he is not, then he does not. Regardless of the method, because ultimately the method is inconsequential to the point at hand, man, or men, will do whatever it takes to have sex with the “opposite” sex.

It begins with a Lie.

Yes, this is what it all comes down to – lying. And who make the best liars? I believe I know the answer to this question, but I will not state it here. The thing is, men and women lie differently. And in fact, women don’t lie at all. The reason for this is because they don’t know how to, at all. This is the difference between male-logic and female-“logic”. Men lie in order to have sex … every time. The only way to avoid this lie is for a particular man to A) believe his own lie, or B) deceive women purposefully. If a man does neither of these, then he will absolutely not get laid. You can count on it. This is the gist of this essay/thread and I will come to it shortly. First I would like to bring up Aidan’s contribution to ILP. He was very angry and emotional for what I see as this Fundamental Lie. I empathized with him, because I believed I understood him. His quandary with society, or Life, as that he had to lie in order to live it – and he didn’t want to lie. I attempted to discuss matters with him, but back then, I didn’t have all my shit together either. But now I see more clearly.

The Fundamental Lie of a man that he must say in order to have sex and submerse himself into Western society today is to say, one-way-or-another, “I Love You!!!” This is the lie. The truth of the matter is, men don’t care about love, we care about sex. That’s it. And that is how women control the egos of men … through sex. If a woman stops giving a man sex, then there will absolutely be conflict, drama, and violence. It’s fucking guaranteed. Because, sexually repressing a male makes him “active”. If a male is given a sufficient amount of sex, or too much, then he becomes “inactive”. And when males are deprived from sex long enough, social harms become expressed. The reason for these social harms should be easy to see, because when a male beast is deprived from sex, his purpose in life, then he will retaliate through whatever methods he can to get it. He will rape. He will murder. He will revolt. He will strike women. He will band with other sexually deprived men to raid and plunder for goods and women. Women are the “goods” in fact.

Women seem to be objects to men.

Any man can see this, but like I said, depending on his social assimilation into society-as-a-whole, he may either believe in the lie and fool himself (becoming feminized) or he may lie to others and just never admit it (the Truth). Men see women as if they are objects and that is how the male mind operates, because sex dominates the ego. Women who are passive and submissive, as a consequence are highly attractive. This is why older men prey on younger women and even underage girls. These girls and young women are almost always too naive or stupid (as a result of bad fathering) to protect themselves from the lust of men. They learn the hard way and then develop an extremely sensitive fear/avoidance to men and general. This is also why virginity is so important to Christianity and monogamous relationships. When a young Christian boy and girl are raised to marry as virgins, then they will stand an extremely high chance of not cheating on one another compared to every type of other marriage existing. Though, this does not end there, because the male beast is more complicated than that. The Christian male, being a man, still desires to have sex with multiple women. It is in his nature always…

…with an exception.

The exception to this rule is that humanity is evolving very quickly. Mutations and adaptations are happening to naturally reinforce monogamy in specific, feminized men, because it vastly increases their success rates of having children. And who do these pussy-whipped men have children with??? They have them with slutty women or women who have been raped/traumatized by dominant men. However, the dominant men represent a detrimental force to Society. They have a more pure desire or passion to have sex with women through any-means-necessary. They will do, and in fact do, whatever they can to have sex. And because they are unrestrained by Justice, Morality, or any other moralistic system, they receive no retribution for their actions. This is why the definition of “rape” is changing. Feminized men seek to counter the dominant men and the dominant men are being bred out as the definition of rape expands. Eventually, rape will include all sex acts by definition, because this is the definition of sex anyway!

This discussion now must return to a powerful point. Men must lie in order to have sex, in this day in age, every, single, time. A man must “give in” to the social institutions of today otherwise he shall be labeled a rapist, criminalized, and expelled from the global community. And this is happening right now. “I love you.” is a great example of this. This romantic notion is essentially a man, or male, “buying in” to the system. When a man tells this to a woman, it is not necessarily because it’s “true” by any stretch of the imagination, it essentially means that the man wants to have sex with the woman. That is the only thing it’s used for. This is a secret between men that they unknowingly wish was never exposed, because if it was, then it would sicken and repulse every woman in Western society. And this needs to be done as a sacrifice to the Truth of things.

And I love my position.

I have no allegiance to others. I have nothing to lose. This is why I can say all these things freely. Because I am not a part of the system, I can expose it to itself … and it will hurt more than anything. What is there in life, to a man, except sex? There is nothing. Men know this, but they will not state it, because there is a cost. When a man admits this, his True nature, then women shall reject him off-hand, despite any attraction she may have to him. I know this, because I’ve experienced it. A woman has essentially told me before, “I want you to fuck me. I want you to marry me. I want you to give me children. But I cannot let you do any of these things unless you give into the predominating socio-cultural ideologies of today.” Now, I’m paraphrasing of course, but I accept the truth for what it is. Women cannot escape society. And men have nowhere to run.

(This is starting to get fun…) :evilfun:

So all men want is sex? Is it true? Yes, of course it is “true”. Even the most pussy-licked feminized man of all time recognizes what I’m saying, despite him buying into the system (the Lie) for all his worth. Every man recognizes his male-nature, just as every woman recognizes her female-nature. The difference between most men is a matter of degree. First of all, is he aware of his lies – is he ignorant? Second of all, if he is aware, then shall he continue to lie purposefully and harm women in the form of injustice? Most men do. In fact, almost all men do. The reason that they do, is because they pick sex over Truth. They cannot admit the truth, because once they do, then they are exposed for what they are … monsters. Now, few men are monsters, but the ones that are, I can relate with. However, I get the benefit-of-the-doubt because I have chosen to remove myself from society rather than lie bold-faced to others.

And that’s what this all is: a bold-faced Lie.

As a final note, let me speak about women finally. Women do not understand any or all of this, at all (redundant I know, but don’t care, for emphasis). The reason that women cannot understand anything that I am saying or have just said, is because they physically can’t. In fact, it’s impossible. The reason that it is impossible, is because the mentalities of women are intended to not figure out the Truth of things. If they were able to do so, then sex would completely cease. As such, I have discovered that the defense-mechanism that women have are to utterly disregard the possibility that men use them only for sex. They cannot ever bridge the possibility of this gap, and because of this, they will cling to society, ideology, and emotion even moreso than before. And then, even if these things fail them, then they shall fall into a nihilistic despair for the first time in life, and perhaps finally, be able to engage in philosophy for the first time ever.

I seriously fucking doubt it though. I love being wrong!!! :evilfun:

Fin.

P.S. If anybody insults me ad hominen in this thread, then you’re a fucking idiot. :laughing: :sunglasses:

And don’t worry. I expect this thread to be locked or deleted soon enough. :wink:

Peace bitches!!!

quoted for when you edit.

k

Realunoriginal,

I want to ask you a question regarding the process of feminization:

Considering that feminization involves the process of assimilation in one form or another (or a process that essentially opposes individuation), could it not be plausible to say that the quest for Truth (philosophy?) is also, in a way, a feminizing process in so far as we seek to assimilate as many perspectives as possible in order to get a (more) complete picture of reality? :-k

I am supposed to be your pretend friend, realunoriginal, but unfortunately I have to declare that I disagree with almost everything that you just said.

I think you have a very interesting take on the matter but there are two fundamental errors.

1.) Not all men care about sex more than anything else, otherwise, I would have sex as often as I could and I don’t have it as often as I could because I don’t feel like it at all times.

Besides, I think work is slightly more important than sex.

2.) You stated that a man wants to impregnate as many people as possible. Before I had attained the age of 19 or 20, it may be true that I wanted to have sex with as many people as possible, but I certainly did not want to impregnate anyone or I would not have taken measures to avoid doing so. Me and my wife got together and married and everything, so I went ahead and impregnated her. But now I only want one kid, so I am back to the old protective measures again, and as soon as I can take a couple of days off I am going to have an operation done so I never have to worry about having the ability to impregnate anyone again.

Supposing the truth is a woman-- what then?

Maybe there’s nothing left for us to know, and we’re a step ahead. At least Nietzsche thought so.

Wher the heck is the emoticon for roling on the floor laughing your ass off?

xzc, that was one of the best to the point simplest posts ever…kudos =D> =D> =D>

Oh RU, RU RU, You don’t want women to understand you. That much I have gleaned from your female threads. I should say a part of you does not, the other part does. Both parts conflict and so you keep reaching out with a knife in one hand and the other empty in friendship.

That’s a pretty strange interpretation…

It seems to me that he was suggesting that we, men, should approach truth as if it were a woman: that is, calmly and with a certain indifferent playfulness.

Where to start, where to start… :unamused:

First, you begin by emphasizing that your thought process is unique, that you see the world the way no one else does. You have searched for, but have never found, anyone whose views are like your own.

That being the case, how, then, can you claim to know what all other men want? Even what any other man wants?

Second, not all sex is rape. In fact, rape accounts for a small percentage of sex acts. The majority of men are not rapists, and they most likely wouldn’t want to be portrayed as such.

Third, you are in no position to repeatedly claim that women are ignorant:

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RU, you can’t even speak for men, why would you think that you could speak to what women do and do not know?? You are the one who sounds ignorant here.

The remainder of your essay is examining your own thoughts/motives/beliefs and from that, inferring that all men think those same things. There’s no such thing as love, all men lie, the only thing men want from women is sex, etc etc ad nauseam.

Have you even considered that if you’re really as utterly alone as you claim, it might be because your interpretation of human behavior is way off?

No, I mean surely he meant it like that, but if women were the truth, he asked, what would that mean? It fits into real’s interpretation because if women cannot search for the truth, then they must be it.

He also says that women have no bottom to them and they’re not even shallow. If men are in search for truth, and power, and as much as they can possess which coincides with his feelings towards women, I’d say it’s fairly profound.


Cut off one head and a lesser one grows in its place.

Imp, what’s this doing in philosophy…?

That was very insightful, Tab. Now stop rummaging through your son’s photo album. :laughing:

Is there an echo in here…?

That’s exactly what it is. Society seeks to assimilate the individual into society as to acquire and gain his knowledge. And knowledge is power.

Philosophy is the edge of Life itself. Like riding a wave, it creates resistance between men and women through definitions of what may be possible or impossible to one another. This is what causes success, or in other words, the successes of sexual selection. Society resembles the multitude of previously acquired (old) “perspectives” while the individual represents a new, or extremely focused perspective. And some perspectives are more powerful than others, because some are able to discern more about reality by comparison. But then you fall into problems of comparing and contrasting things, and between what other things, whether they are “subjects” or “objects”.

And the way that society pulls the individual toward it is through gravity, while the individual resists this pull using unknown forces – forces that are anti-material. This is where impossibility originates.

Shame on you pretend friend! :imp: :laughing:

And why don’t you “feel like it at all times”?

Work is sex. If men don’t work, then they don’t get laid.

Why did you “not want to impregnate anyone”?

I experienced the same thing in high school; I had very high standards. I didn’t want to screw a fat chick, or an ugly one, or a stupid one, and I didn’t – but why not? Why shouldn’t I? The reason that I did not, and I am guessing you and all other men did/do not, is because having sex now basically guarantees that you will have a social obligation – and you do. If you have sex with every woman possible, then I personally guaran-damn-tee you that you will be castrated pretty quick, metaphorically if not literally. Men cannot stand one singular man hogging all the women. I have personal experiences of this when a girly-guy practically cried in front of me because I was stealing his girl. (I didn’t end up doing it though) Weaker men will absolutely rise up and cut your balls off. Not only that, but if you don’t play the games of society well enough, then you will be accused of rape and thrown into jail. Most likely, one girl’s father will find out you’re banging his daughter without permission and he’ll sick the police on you. Or, the girl will feel jealousy that you used her and accuse you of rape.

“Hell has no wrath like a woman’s scorn!”

This is no simple matter. I say, it is not that “you did not want to impregnate anyone”. Rather, it is that you actually did want to, but society itself was holding you back. This applies to all men in fact.

Congratulations on your assimilation into society I guess. In exchange for security, you have given up your freedom.

This is true for all men. Assimilate or die. There’s no way out and your/our fate is inevitable.

You tell me woman!

Maybe there is nothing left for us to know, but who is the “us” here? I have a lot left I plan to know.

And besides, we still haven’t said anything definitive or have we?

Smart girl – give me an address so I can send a cookie to you in the mail.

I’m being difficult on purpose!? I knew there was a reason for it…

There’s a fine line between love and hate.

That’s a fair way to reiterate my thoughts.

Though for me, personally, I completely dislike playing games that I do not find enjoyable.

Thanks for the surf analogy, real. I was actually thinking more in line of a jigsaw puzzle when I asked, in which, in relation to existence, new knowledge would represent different pieces, and systems of thought (or perspectives) would represent the images and relationships among them in the puzzle (kind of like Dr. Q’s Flatland). Your analogy points to an extra dimension (3-D)!

On the contrary, I was raised to believe in the ideologies that I came to dispel. I was raised to believe that men and women are fundamentally equal and should enjoy equal opportunities. I was raised to believe that different races of people deserve the same privileges. The problem with these dreams are that they are simply dreams, aimed at children, and almost always linger into adulthood. And they produce illnesses in people that seem incurable. They also do not help to cure ailments, but they create newer and more deadly ones. It is a lie upon a Lie.

And I understand the all other men, because I fall in the classification of “man”. And it is an identity that I enjoy having.

I also believe women should enjoy to identify themselves as “women”, but that is not the case here on ILP. Don’t even begin to say otherwise.

All sex is rape, because a man must force himself upon a woman in order to fuck her. He must be active and overpower the woman, through whatever methods, in order to procreate according to his willpower. This is sex. Now, that some acts of sex can be unpleasant is another matter. It has to do with socialization and civilization. This is rape. It is when a man does not succumb to social ideologies in order to engage in sex. The truth of the matter is, men either lie to themselves in order to have sex, or they lie to women in order to have sex. This is why all sex acts are rape, because a man must lie in order to get it.

And believe me, I wish it was another way. As I already expressed, it is impossible for a woman to accept a man, despite whatever feelings she may have, if he does not adhere with her raised socio-cultural-moral standards. That new generations of women are being raised without those standards is something else to think about. Furthermore, this also explains why pedophilia is becoming more commonplace today. It is easiest for men to attack girls when they’re young, ignorant, and innocent. This makes traditional marriage in the West practically impossible nowadays.

Ok…?

I already disproved this statement.

It’s either way off or dead on. Who are you to say which it is? :-k