Would you approve of your own abortion?

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  • Yes
  • No
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No

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In order to approve or disapprove my abortion, I need first to be alive. But:

  • If the abortion has been done, I am not alive. Dead people do not have opinions.
  • If the abortion has not been done, I am alive but my opinion is irrelevant, since the choice was done without my input.

Bottom line: my approval or disapproval in my own abortion is impossible to be done by me.

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Now that abortions are looking to be legalised up to 1 years old, we can all approve or disapprove of our own abortions..!

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Yeah, how would you rephrase it then?

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Good question.

I think I would rephrase it like:

If your mother told you that, while pregnant on you, she was thinking of abortion, what would you respond to her?

  • She made the correct choice to not proceed with abortion.
  • She made the wrong choice to not proceed with abortion.

My response would be the first.

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“Correct” meaning what?

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What metaphysical assumptions have we made in the context?

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The first option is equivalent to your disapprove
The second option is equivalent to your approve

If you object to the “correct” and “wrong” words I used, we can phrase the options as:

  • You approve her choice to not proceed with abortion
  • You disapprove her choice to not proceed with abortion.
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I think the only people who should not be aborted are those who would approve of her choice, whatever it might be.

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Great topic.

Anyone who would not answer ‘yes’ is still a child. But that’s ok. Children should live, and love life. That is what being a child means anyway.

Let truth sink in later, much much later in some cases.

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There is no point in the “abortion” tag if the question is simply about whether or not people would be okay with being terminated.
But if abortion is a key element here, then i think you need to provide a LOT more context than simply just saying “would you approve of it”.

Would you refuse to be aborted if your birth will cost your mother’s life?
Would you refuse to be aborted if you were the product of rape and because of that knowing what awaits you?
Would you refuse to be aborted if you were just a “mistake”?

Topic needs serious explanation, otherwise the poll means absolutely nothing.
There is a monstrous amount of difference between being aborted just because your dear mother is a gardening tool and uses abortion as a form of contraception, and being aborted for reasons like the examples above.
And then its also a completely different question when there is no reason, problem or negative element of any kind involved with your birth and you are just being terminated for the heck of it.

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Do you think people should not live, according to their ideas?

To be clear: The question is about your own abortion. You provide your own context

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Alright… i would be okay with my abortion if the circumstances of my birth had negative connotations, i.e. death of parents/people, being the result of rape, born just to be mistreated and potentially ended after my birth, etc

I would not be okay with my (or any other) abortion if the circumstances of my birth had no negative connotations, and there is absolutely no reason to do so.

And with that being said…. which poll option is closer to the truth? Yes or no?

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Yes, this for me is a much more interesting point of discussion, but I do not know if that was the intention of the OP.

It brings a serious issue on what the “pro-choice” camp stands for. And, to go even further, it opens the dialogue on how we can have abortion rights without using them as contraception.

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I’d agree that “Abortion as contraception” would be a nice thread.

My intentions don’t matter, the thing is the question at hand

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By reason, I would neither approve nor disapprove. But by passion, I think pro-life people should be aborted and pro-choice people carried to term, yes. Although I’m kind of making the choice for the mothers when I say that..

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I would imagine there must be an overall “major” reason why women choose abortion, other than a light hearted or shallow decision.

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Yeah, everyone under 20-30 lives with naive ideas like those.
I remember myself honestly, from the heart believing things like everyone can be talked to and reasoned with, you just need to find the right tone and its possible.
Or ideas like “the majority of human beings are rational”.

The thing with not dying early is that you will grow old enough to watch life debunk all your expectations one by one.

Especially when you go around and put in the effort to actually look for answers.
Hah. Brother. Thats the best of black humor i ever got from life. That one i will cherish and appreciate till the day i die.
You see those who seek answers will eventually wind up finding them. That much is true.
What nobody tells you is that the answers you get, might run completely counter to your expectations. Yet once you found them you will have to live the rest of your life with that knowledge regardless of whether or not you want to.

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Were I Buddhist, why not? I would simply incarnate somewhere else, hopefully someone I was, in the abstract, more wanted.

Were I Hindu, same deal more or less, so sure approved? I’ll still ‘come in’ somewhere else, perhaps in someone really glad to be having a child?

Islam: generally direct to Heaven? So, sure.

Judaism: now we really don’t know what kind of ground we’re on. Maybe not.

Secular Physicalism: OK, now it’s clear, full loss of getting to live. So, when am I making this decision, at what age? Like now looking back so the life gets unzipped into nothing. Sort of like death will do for the secular physicalists?

Paganism/indigenous - a lot of variety, but here again it tends to go fine – into the arms of a Loving Goddess or reborn, etc.

Animists (which overlaps with the previous category) - in some the child chooses the parents, so it was seen as a poor choice, but there is no punishment, just choose again. Without Heaven or Hell, the spirit continues as part of the spiritual ecosystem, without the clear separate between manifest life and spiritual worlds the West is more used to.

Since I tend to fall into the last two categories, yes, I can approve it. Though I am not sure when this approval is happening. The context is a little fuzzy. It would be harder if it meant I had to approve retroactively of an abortion of me in this life that never happened, so this life gets unexisted.