Would You Encourage Your Child Toward A Career In Porn?

Would You Encourage Your Child Toward A Career As A Porno Actor/Actress?

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This question stems from another thread about the legality of porn. I’m not against it being legal. However, I do believe that it is an industry that is unethical in that it exploits the poor and undereducated. Also, I believe that porn promotes a one-sided relationship where the female is turned into a kind of performance object. Thus, it is unethical to involve oneself in the porno business, as one is actually “hurting” the performers.

Also, one may be hurting the minds of young people that are likely to be getting their first taste of human sexuality via their computer monitor, or what have you. Spreading antisocial and inhumane ideas is also unethical.

However, this could all be just my skewed point of view! If porn is ok and the actors are all ok then that means that porn is a fine job just doing what comes naturally. It could be much like what an athlete does. Personally, I might want to star in Anal Rangers part XII than be in the ring with Mike Tyson!

Anyway, most of us got some kind of encouragement and direction from our parents, or older friends, that helped us decide about what we were going to do with our future. Something inspired us to either go to college or learn a trade.

Question for all:

Since porn is a great way to make money for an attractive young woman, and requires little work or study, would you consider preparing your daughter for a porn career at a young age as you might prepare a kid for college?

This question could also be applied to a boy, but since I’m saying that women get put through the most I’m focusing on females. Answer for both sexes if you want to.

If you say yes, then please explain.

If you say no, then please explain.

speaking of mike tyson…

the appealing image of athletic, fit, tone bodies engaged in rhythmic activities for the viewing pleasure of the audience…

porn? gymastics? wrestling? boxing? dancing?

"It could be much like what an athlete does. "

selling body image is selling body image…

hell, even the daughter of a hotel tycoon can be a sexual preformer…

-Imp

True, that’s why I put it in there. However, with porn I would suggest that the female is more like a punching bag. Women are getting things done to them. Meanwhile, the athlete is going things that are fantastic and that is why we like them.
Is there a passive sport? I’m not sure.

no, the boxing opponents are the punching bags…

getting things done to them or allowing things to happen?

huge distinction…

passive sport? billiards and bowling come close… fishing could be…

-Imp

Right, but we like the boxers that win! So, they are indeed the the “doers” in the match. However, even if a guy looses the match we can still admire their technique.

I’m not sure that we admire the technique of taking a monster cock in the ass.

Also, I have fished and played a lot of pool. Both sports require a certain amount of skill and planning. Bowling, requires a steady hand, aiming, and putting “English” on the ball. It can be tough.

I’m not sure that sports and porn are a good (anal)ogy.

Sex is something perpetrated against a woman? That’s a surpisingly puritanical and outmoded notion, especially coming from someone who claims to be an educated professional. Surely the act of sex isn’t something that a women must merely tolerate meekly! :astonished:

Phaedrus,

Don’t be a goof! I’m talking about in porno movies!
Read and think before posting!

Meanwhile, show some guts and fully answer the question.

I don’t think I would encourage my daughter (if I had one) into a porno career that objectified her and deindividualized her. However, I’m personally convinced that not all porn needs to objectify women, and I couldn’t care less if my daughter or anyone took part in such porn (or art).

Recognize this, numbnuts? It is your question and assertion. In addition to your Ward Cleaver view of the world and tired sexist cliches, you seem to have developed amnesia. If you can’t be bothered to think before asking, then you ought not criticize someone trivializing your already marginal and sexist question.

To put it in terms that hopefully are simple enough for you to grasp, I would neither encourage nor discourage a child from doing it. Would you encourage your child to join the military? Most agree we need an army, but it’s dangerous and not prestigious.

Since I lack your puritanical view of sex, I wouldn’t care if my child became a porn actor/actress. They’d probably make good money, and it’s more honorable than getting into law or psychology. :wink:

Phaedrus,

Perhaps your eyes are crossed from watching too much porn, but my question still had to do with porn and not sexual activity in general. Perhaps you think that they are one in the same? If you do then you prove my point about the effects of porn. The role of women in porn has nothing to do with their role in general human sexual practices.

Also, nice reference to the 1950s TV show Leave It To ((Beaver))! That was great. Anyway, if not sticking a “dildo cam” up some girl’s ass is part of 1950s sitcom ethics then I want to be the Fonz!

Until your daughter gets “Rectal Rooted” I hope you have fun.

“Dad - I’m sorry Dad, But I want to be a Lawyer…”
“Look, Musky Valley, I’ve told you about blaspheming in this house… You’re going to be a pornstar and that’s final.”
“Jeeze Dad - my name’s [size=142]Louise [/size]- STOP CALLING ME MUSKY !!!”
“GODDAMN IT CHILD - I’M DOING THIS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD !!!”
[size=75]“But Mummy’s a corporate lawyer…”[/size]
“Look - we’ve discussed this before, in your Mum’s time, a decent career in porn wasn’t available, you haven’t seen her cry herself to sleep at night like I have… believe me kiddo, you don’t want to go down that path… We just want what’s best for you, you know that don’t you…?”
[size=84][sniffle] “Okay Daddy…” [/size]
“Now let’s have no more talk of Lawyers in this house… Have you been a good girl and done your sphincter-stretching exercises like I told you…? You’ve got an audition tomorrow…”
“Yes Daddy.”
“That’s my girl - you go make your Daddy proud now…”

That was great!
Musky was brilliant!
I swear that I thought of “sphincter stretching exercises” as a joke just before you said it!

Anyway, good use of humor as a way to illustrate that no normal person would have their kid go into this business.

If you think women are the ones ‘objectified’ and ‘degraded’ by porn. it shows only your ignorance of the industry.
The women, on average, make up to 3 times more money than the men to begin with. The man is the one that has to perform under pressure, in front of a crew that is often impatient and in a hurry to get the shot done…
Women pick who they ‘perform’ with, gain noteriety and prestigue otherwise unavailable to them.
The only ones that think the women in porn are being ‘hurt’ are the ones with the puritanical ‘sex is for marriage/trandencendal/more than a physical act’ view, of which you seem to fall into rank and file. if you don’t, yourself, see anything ‘dirty’ about sex, nor would you find anything ‘dirty’ about porn.
The only problem, Adlerian, seems to be your own sexual hangups.

As for your question, it is over simplified. If I had a daughter that was best suited for porn, and had an interest in porn, then more power to her.
Do you really think you can decide what your children do?

Dr. S, perhaps you should check this site out drbizzaro.com/.
It has lists of hundred, perhaps thousands, of porn sites featuring pictures and videos.
The kind of exclusive porno actress behavior is reserved for those actresses that become super stars. The girls in most porn videos are like tissues or the flavor of the week. They are gone and never seen again when their use is fulfilled.

Many of these sites are dedicated to a guy and his adventures with rape fantasy or humiliation. Bangbus, Mike’s apartment, My Trip to Brazil, Capt Stabin’s (sp?) bang boat, Facial humiliation, and so forth, all feature a group of, or single, guy fucking some girl.

About guys and pressure: Have you ever had a viagra? You could fuck a hornet’s nest on one of those.

Even the super famous Jenna Jameson mentioned that she will stop when she gets married and has kids. She also added that she would not allow her children to be in porn. Miraculously, she also concluded that there was nothing wrong with porn! It’s called lying to yourself.

My beef is not with the sex. It’s with paying, most likely poor women, tempting amounts to humiliate them. Check out the sites that have I mentioned and see what you think.

I view porn as the exact opposite of what I do for a living. I try to help poor people, mostly women, get out of humiliating situations and live better lives. I also try to help people with their relationships so that everyone has a sense of togetherness and understanding. So, I see the pornographer as spreading (no joke intended) the exact opposite force.

Anyway, folks can have any kind of sex that they want in private. I have counted sex in my own life as being much better than any drug that I have ever tried and I’m an atheist, so I have no taboos about sex that are based on morality. I am not a puritan by any stretch. If it were possible, I would dare anyone to find a person that I intentionally humiliated during a sexual encounter. It’s repulsive.

I find porno to be unethical and inhumane. It’s pimping and the humiliation/rape fantasy kind clearly sends a message. Just look on the sites. It’s clear. Who could produce this stuff?

Here’s the problem with the pay: It’s what a drug dealer once described to me as the American dream in reverse. You get a whole bunch of money up front and then lose everything in the end. Young people can get sucked in by the promise of large amounts of money by the sex industry. Many can get work until they (especially girls) are in their early to mid-thirties, if they are lucky, and then no one wants them because they have gotten old, developed cellulite, etc. In a documentary, I heard that at this point you must sign for doing anal sex and whatnot or no one will hire you.

So, at the conclusion of your porn career you end up with no practical job skills, no income, and a sore ass.

I have known a variety of stripers and that is exactly the course that their careers take. Some have even purchased homes only to loose them after they can no longer dance, because they could not pay the property tax on their now Walmart salary.

Surely, these girls need someone Satanic on their side.

The problem with porn is that we are always watching some else. It’s some girl that you don’t know and so she and her life is an unreality. That’s a problem.

Additionally Dr. the question was about “encouraging” your child toward a good job in porn not forcing them. Tab’s dialogue summed it up.

TheAdlerian - the industry if not perfect. should we outlaw other industries because certain companies in it happen to go about their business in a poor way? Should we rid the word of the pharm-ma-suit-ical industry because a few company happen to not disclose the fact that their pills cause heart disease in a percentage of their patients? Should we outlaw pulp and paper mills because some of them happen to dump tons of chemicals in to bodies of water the world over? Should we get rid of democracy because a few of them happen to make a mess of it and ruin its name for everyone else?

whats the name of the site again? DR BIZZARO??? That is what you call underground stuff. Im sure if the FCC had a look at the site things would prolly change a bit. I suggest you send them a letter.

Dietcoke,

I now enjoy you with Splenda! Great taste.

I have mentioned before that I am against outlawing porn. However, I am for stating what it is and what it does as a way to place pressure on those who produce it. Talking about it is not wrong, however, I’m sure that porongraphers would like to make it sound that way.

Please check out extremefiles.net for additional thrills.
Also, brutalviolence.com for more laughs.
One more hogtied.com .

Picture your favorite kid in one of those videos when she grows up!

I think whether or not you feel comfortable with your child doing porn for money when they grow up, depends on how you feel about sex, and how you have taught your child to feel about sex (they may not agree with how you feel).

Most in our culture know and accept that sex is inevitable – our children will eventually become curious just like we did. I for one did not feel any guilt about it, and hope my children’s discovery of sex is just as enjoyable… that they find some good people to explore the guilt-free hell out of it, and that there are no broken hearts resulting from it.

Some people have no problem with porn between lovers (not of strangers, but of eachother) as a fun sort of thing. Those people would not frown on their children engaging in that sort of porn with their lover.

Many people think that you should give your sexuality only to someone who has earned it… it should be special, kept inside a loving relationship… that one’s body and vulnerability is a sacred part of oneself and should be reserved for someone who is your friend regardless of sex.

They think that if you have casual, anonymous sex, that you don’t value yourself enough… you don’t think that ‘friend’ will ever come along, maybe.

Others think of sex as just another body function that happens to feel really, really good. They don’t equate sex and love… they think of sex as body-function, and love as a separate mind-function, which in our culture often gets intertwined and associated together, but for that individual – it doesn’t. They do not feel vulnerable or exposed in the sex act – they do not need to trust, they feel secure with or without trusting the person. They don’t need to befriend a person in order to satisfy a body function, and they do not need to see a friendship as having ‘gone to the next level’ if sex becomes involved.

This type of person is invulnerable to suggestions that they are being “used” or “humiliated” or “degraded” when they pursue the satisfaction of their own body function… they seek out the sexual contact… and outside commentary is made with the perceiver’s own values in mind, which do not apply.

One could argue that this person should take outside commentary seriously (like ‘that girl likes to be humiliated’ or ‘that guy loves to humiliate that girl’), even if s/he does not share the values of the commentator (there is no humiliation going on at all), since it may affect how this commentator perceives other women/men who /do/ share the values of the commentator (would view those acts as humiliating) – and in taking it seriously, should not do those things in such a way that the masses might get a hold of it, because they cannot properly process it, due to differing values. That’s the only good argument I can really think of.

I would encourage my sons not to do anything with which they or their sex-partner is uncomfortable, and if they consider putting it out there for the masses to see (whether or not they put a fee on it) – consider /with that/ how the masses will process it mentally, and how it will carry over into their relationships. I would say everything else is fair game.

If they wanted to make a career out of it… involving countless partners for money… in “the business”… I don’t know about that… I don’t think I would recommend it… but… as long as I knew they knew the difference between sex and love (so that they didn’t feel bad about themselves or the women “giving themselves away” cheaply)… and knew they didn’t feel they were disrespecting/humiliating women, but just mutually “employing” a body function… As far as their part in it… Well, it would still go against gut feelings, but I wouldn’t ‘nag’ them about it. I wouldn’t call it an “aspiration”, but that’s me. But, as far as how the “masses” process the whole thing… that’s another story… as illustrated by The Adlerian, who somehow doesn’t think he has any taboos on sex based on morality.

I have no doubt that some women in “the business” are exploited, they neither like sex, nor sex for money – it is for that reason that, although I’m attracted to porn (though I’m picky), I stay away from it. But I also have no doubt that some of them really, really like sex, or atleast like making money from it, and I see nothing wrong with what they are doing – but I would hope they have loving friendships outside “the business”. Same deal with men, as long as they aren’t in it just to exploit women… as long as they are only in it knowing the women they work with really, really like their job.

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I thought that that was a good post.

You were speaking about your sons in a way that indicated that you would not want them to get hurt by their activities. However, what if they weren’t hurt by making some girl gag on their penises until they vomited? Wouldn’t that be weird? What if most of the girls that were in movies with them left feeling a little less good about themselves, but your sons didn’t seem to notice?

I view things from a social perspective where we are all interacting and affecting each other. See what I mean?

I can’t relate to the vomit thing being erotic, I can’t imagine my sons or any girls or any body else finding that erotic, but to each his own.

As far as feeling a little less good about themselves and my sons not noticing it – you could ask that question on or off camera. All I can do is raise them to be empathetic and let them take it from there. Everything else I have in mind to say, I’ve already said.

I believe Porn, like any industry, has a supply and a demand, one depending on the other. If one increases the demand, the supply has to increase. The sex trade would not be at least partly responsible for the disappearance for millions of children every year. If the demand wasn’t there, they would not need to resort to this. My view is that the next time you see a missing kid on TV, and you support the porn industry, check your own hands for blood. It’s a free choice, which I respect. Should a child of mine decide that’s what they want to do, they are free to do what they want, and I’ll support them in that choice.

To answer the question, I wouldn’t, but not for the above reason. It’s simply since not all societies accept porn or their players easily, not strippers or the likes even. Some are not forgiving at all, and one finds making a living suddenly harder, much harder. I guess it’s dependant on in what country one lives.

Just my opinion.