You are all too set in your own ways

[Peachy_Nietzsche]

and it has reached a point where you don’t even consider the belief structures of others - you believe your own beliefs to be “oh so amazing”.

You thought of something interesting in your own mind, and tried to share it with other people, expecting to be applauded for such a brilliant discovery. When it didn’t work out that way, you came on here.

Why else would you be here.

Do you really think that any of the philosophers which you read about know any more than you? They don’t. The only reason they are put up on a pedastal and worshipped is because their philosophy was written a long time ago. We feel that just because it was written a long time ago, this accounts for its downfalls and shortcomings - you read what they have written more open-mindedly, and in turn you become fascinated with it simply because you understand it.
It is ego masturbation - your real motive isn’t philosophy; your real motive is finding ego-credentials so you can justify for yourself the position of “alpha-male”.

Not that there is anything wrong with it - simply put, there is no other way to go about living as a human being; we are forced to spend our entire life climbing to higher ground, searching for more complex things to justify ourselves as somehow being ‘above’ and ‘better than’ the people around us.

‘Because it feels good’ - and that is all there is to it. That is life: electro-chemical activity that propels things forward through space and time as ‘living creatures’ - because the alternative was non-existence.

If a ‘God’ is real, then perhaps he should take full acountability for the blatant disharmonic state of the world around us.
And if “free will” truly does exist in the sense that we are in control of our actions, and we are not locked into some roller coaster ride, then we have made some very pitiful, lazy, and selfish choices with that gift of “free-will” - we have exploited and abused it, and we deserve to burn in whatever ‘Hell’ or ‘afterlife’ awaits us.

[Xilivai]

and it has reached a point where you don’t even consider the belief structures of others - you believe your own beliefs to be “oh so amazing”.

You thought of something interesting in your own mind, and tried to share it with other people, expecting to be applauded for such a brilliant discovery. When it didn’t work out that way, you came on here.

Why else would you be here.

Do you really think that any of the philosophers which you read about know any more than you? They don’t. The only reason they are put up on a pedastal and worshipped is because their philosophy was written a long time ago. We feel that just because it was written a long time ago, this accounts for its downfalls and shortcomings - you read what they have written more open-mindedly, and in turn you become fascinated with it simply because you understand it.
It is ego masturbation - your real motive isn’t philosophy; your real motive is finding ego-credentials so you can justify for yourself the position of “alpha-male”.

Not that there is anything wrong with it - simply put, there is no other way to go about living as a human being; we are forced to spend our entire life climbing to higher ground, searching for more complex things to justify ourselves as somehow being ‘above’ and ‘better than’ the people around us.

‘Because it feels good’ - and that is all there is to it. That is life: electro-chemical activity that propels things forward through space and time as ‘living creatures’ - because the alternative was non-existence.

If a ‘God’ is real, then perhaps he should take full acountability for the blatant disharmonic state of the world around us.
And if “free will” truly does exist in the sense that we are in control of our actions, and we are not locked into some roller coaster ride, then we have made some very pitiful, lazy, and selfish choices with that gift of “free-will” - we have exploited and abused it, and we deserve to burn in whatever ‘Hell’ or ‘afterlife’ awaits us.

I hope you were also referring to yourself in this thread, for if you were not, you have contradicted yourself quite a bit.

I personally use math and logic to try and replace beliefs. What ever seems to be more logical, or has a higher percentage of being accurate, is what I go by. I always try my best to view both sides of arguments, although not always successful because I am human, so that I can prove either side true or false more efficiently. Not everyone acts as you describe. I for one hate society as well, but instead of bitching (Excuse my language.) we should probably do something about it.

I do not get on here to get respect or anything of that nature. I get on this site because I want to stimulate thought and learn. The reason there are “worshipped” philosophers is not because of the reasons you have stated, but more so that we can learn from them instead of wasting our hole life just getting to where they did.

[brevel_monkey]

and it has reached a point where you don’t even consider the belief structures of others - you believe your own beliefs to be “oh so amazing”.

You thought of something interesting in your own mind, and tried to share it with other people, expecting to be applauded for such a brilliant discovery. When it didn’t work out that way, you came on here.

Why else would you be here.

For a start, some of us get coffee breaks at work, and ILP is a reasonable way to spend these. I don’t think most people are here to change the world.

Philosophy is about the development of ideas. We all have ideas sometimes - by writing about them and having them critiqued, ideas can either become more robust - picking up a load of technical aspects that allows it to escape certain criticisms, or they can just fall flat on their face and have to be abandoned.

Ultimately, I suspect every self confessed philosopher (no matter how poor) plays their role in the search for truth.

And if you don’t believe in the value of truth - you shouldn’t be doing philsophy.

[Three_Times_Great]

of course we are all biased to our own beliefs and mindsets. this is because we are forced to filter all other beliefs through our own mental lenses. this creates bias and skew. add in the ego and the psychological need for infatuation/attention/love, and you get a human being. congrats. youre human. =D>

that being said, free will, God, afterlife, Hell, good and bad are all false concepts. throw them out the window… there they go, byebye :-"

that was easy, wasnt it?

so now whats left? psychology, of course. and some biochemistry, if you want to do some digging. philosophy is just the frosting on top of that massive cake. it makes it look pretty and appealing, even though we have no idea wtf the cake is made of or whether it will kill us if we try to eat it. because theres a good chance it will.

yet we cant escape the cake. and there, voila, enter philosophy. an icing for reality. and heres the really great part: its tailored specifically to your unique needs and beliefs. a nice warm shell to wrap your brain up in, to keep it warm on those cold nights out in the Ether. no God to be found— so you better stay warm on your own. bring a blanket. philosophy will do just fine. or religion, if youre more inclined. whatever your constitution may be.

deconstruct if youd like, i know its fun, it can become it own meaning, its own raison d’etre. and a good one at that, very utilitarian. just remember to stop digging before you get so deep that you can never climb out again. dont let philosphy philosophize itself. you NEED your filters, your ego, your bias, your mental egg. we humans cant live without it.

sure, you could become a half-breed, a hybrid to the next wave of evolution… but really, who wants that? i thought i did. i think i was wrong. sure, ill never find out, so its really just more ego comforting and rationalizing. but hey, no big deal. im human too, you know. dont forget that, fucker. human. homo fucking sapien. yeah, thats right. dont you fuckin forget it.

and i wish i believed that id have a change “next time” to ride the wave, but… my paradigm is so structured at present that such beliefs do not penetrate. maybe tomorrow, will be different. it all comes around in the future, after all. jesus christ it changed, weird… who woulda thought a DVD menu would be so complicated, that theyd put so much god damn effort into it. like who would notice anyways? me, i suppose.

oh well.

remember, psychological needs are all you have. voids, and needs. needs and voids. thats about it. psychologically, you cant get rid of the psyche. try it. i did.

i dont recommend it.

[Arcturus_Descending]

or perhaps we are all too set in the ways of others.

So what to do - shake ourselves loose by doing the dance of exorcism and perhaps that which is deep within us that IS US will come out and fall to the ground.

Pick it up, study it, put it in your mouth, chew on it, swallow it, BECOME ONE WITH IT. LIVE IT.

And remember to always feel it - it will tell you when the time has come to abandon IT and Self - and to start anew - pick it up, study it…ad infinitum.

Serious stuff Life but ah such fun too.