You are not Revolutionary!

You are not Revolutionary!
If you are not ready to die against oppression!

You are not Revolutionary!
If you have no enemy worth slaughtering!

You are not Revolutionary!
If you are beyond good and evil!

You are not Revolutionary!
If you are not a threat!

You are not Revolutionary!
If you are mediocre!

Is being a revolutionary a good thing?

(Is there a philosophical thesis here, or would this be better on another forum?)

That depends on whether the oppression is Just or Unjust.

Maybe it’s mundane, but it seemed important and philosophical when it popped into my head.

I feel a lot of people believe they are, or their thoughts are, revolutionary, when they’re not.

What you say is true.
Good is not given, we have to choose it and make an evil (a moral bad) of what stands in its way. The will to sacrifice is required.

… just oppression? What?

Some forms of oppression are necessary and just. Just as a parent should scold a young child from using fireworks without parental supervision, because they are dangerous, and some children are stupid and unsafe in these types of activities. Any oppression that the child suffers to enforce this rule, like a punishment, is justifiable. The State does this to a large extent towards citizens. If citizens grow unruly, and resist government authority, then again, some forms of punishment by The State to citizens is justifiable.

Anarchists, however, believe that “all and any form of government oppression is unjust!

These are people who believe that, in having a child, that the parent should govern with no rules, punishment, or discipline. But what happens when children are allowed to grow without order, rules, and guidance??? How do they turn out? They turn out horribly. They will get into fights, steal, cheat, lie, cause all kinds of mischief, if adults do not step in. Thus, the anarchist position, is one of absolute childishness. It never wants to even consider a position of responsibility. Rather, it is complete selfishness.

In short, some punishments are Just. Some are not. Very few know the difference. Revolts are not Revolutionary until they have a Just Cause against an Unjust Oppression.

But in today’s world, in the west, most forms of oppression are in fact justifiable. So there remains almost nothing remaining to revolt against. In my personal opinion, we could use some more oppression, not more liberty and liberalism.

Say Yes to more government oppression! I’ll take the Anti-anarchist stance on this one. :smiley:

I feel as though my government isn’t oppressing me enough. I demand higher taxes! I demand less legal protections!

I demand [size=150]a Challenge!!![/size]

Oppression is good. It’s like weight-lifting. We need to lift more weights. We need to become stronger, and the only way to do this, is with more oppression.

I’m not sure, but it seems like we’re working under different definitions of “oppression.”

Probably, what do you mean by Oppression?

I mean that a more powerful force is controlling, by force, a lesser, powerless force. And it maybe intentional or unintentional.

That’s a very vague definition though. I mean, a hammer could be “oppressing” a nail by that definition.

It is a hard word to define though.

Well…it is in the nature of hammers to oppress nails.

Just like it is in the nature of governments to oppress citizens.

If you don’t like then giiiiiit out!

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belittle another free expression right is the trait of hypocrites and liars that lean on powers of conditions sources outside existence to get to their living means, you are the one being of artificial intelligence which explain your urge to deform any for knowledge pretense about all as something

u seem to advocate the theory of aliens coming at a time from god set out of existence to rule over earth, this is ur issue buddy whatever you mean getting out of that any credibility of being unhuman reality as a living will

humans are exclusively the free senses ones rights out of true existence rights thrown in objective existence since ever in nature realizations of all free rights means to exist as individuals ones while in animals conditions of beings

what you prove having no right to be a human since never meaning your life individuality is your robotic expression of your own free will, lacking the least of existence conscious rights that happen to be through existence conditions from millions of generations before humans existence ones, while lacking also the least of living heart for anyother being reality free reality since you never mean being that too from always

what i can say absolutely is simply confirming my free right by proving evil powers being the exclusive living source over existence for evil life through abusing rights and truth of any and all, what i am prove evil god life over all heads and realities not only over mine

any honest mean know much better then any superior powerful one position meaning lies, when knowledge is only about what is true while what is true is always the obvious objective sight

if honesty cannot get through words for what they are conditionned by the same evil source, confirm more evil life as the source and not any right absolute abuse being something

as there is no revolution when you are part of that plan, true resistence to god force is not reversing god so never revolutionnary,

revolution is death of itself in meaning to refrain evolution of being that any is part of, that is why im fundamentally against revolutions but for what is above god to justify being there too and kill god infront of surviving rights in worse forms of indignified misery

I’ll take that as a compliment.

I may not have much credibility, to some, but at least I can spell words and arrange sentences using grammar.

You lost me on that last one, come again??

So you believe humanity is “exclusively free”? Interesting, and thought provoking, but what does that have to do with the thread topic of Revolutions?

There’s gotta be a point in there, somewhere??

Deep. :astonished:

Huh?!?!

you are just confirming the point, essentially your free conscious is opposed to truth, positive to knowledge abuse

that is why u take for granted that intelligence is a lie, what is artificial is by definition fake

u r opposed to truth that is why ur mind reject the exclusive fact of intelligence being of absolute freedom and to, while intelligence is itself truly free too

What would a thing who cannot even string a sentence together know about “truth”?

See, you can’t even complete a sentence without breaking a sweat.

Strawman, you’re arguing with yourself, brosef. Nowhere did I state anything, or is it even relevant to this thread, that intelligence is a lie or a truth.

In fact, I don’t take too kindly to you derailing my threads, thing.

no u r

Intelligence is free from what?

you are again confirming the evil you are from god, truth moron can not ever b known, but of who mean abusing truth by pretending knowing enough to pretend having powers on things, free liars wills, that cant b but like u absolute evil as outside totally of truth like nothing to it while conscious, to can pretend such will
how can anyone know truth moron when truth by definition is any alike so especially the conscious that become then itself only which is always nothing to all

:astonished:

He sent me here with a Purpose, Earthling.

Yet it can be talked about.

By the way, I think calling other people “morons” is against the rules, just FYI about that.

Good, good, yes I can understand…

See here is where you fall off. You need to focus, really hard on writing a full, complete sentence. You almost had it. Keep practicing.

I don’t know what “truth is any alike” means. That doesn’t really mean anything.

Completely senseless.

I recommend taking some English 101 courses before further conversing, especially in a philosophy forum for Christ sake’s! Philosophical conversations aren’t exactly beginner level English equivalents, buddy, friend, thing, pal.

my english nobuddy do not justify you, while you is the only object concern here

philosophy is conscious free individual realizations before and after being an objective standard of words superior form use

when u think that u can pretend being philosopher just from inventing anything to say as if it could appear in form of philosophical words, you are then an imposter to philosophy, that only true individual conscious means realize

go to religion forums when obviously u mean christians paradise or expectations, christ word dont exist in any philosophical work fact from socrates time till now
u cannot invade philosophy area from ur religious belief for that time, u have ur own area there all for

which again prove the hypocrite you are, how any sentence realized about everything reveal exclusively the point one same free sense

when you dont say what is on ur mind really from what justification are you expecting that others will believe the crap you are inventing for meaning smthg else ?

from evil life u belong to, that all is of lies and for powerful pretenses of free superior will conditions upon everything and everyone rights

I dislike Starbucks Coffee and much prefer almost any other brand.

Is that revolutionary?

I think you have to burn down a Starbucks to be a revolutionary. Sorry.

I’m not a revolutionary, I just have other commitments that I can’t abandon to fight for self determination for Muldovia.