Have you ever wondered whether we’re all connected to one another in nature?
I was having a chat with my friend (she is an environmental fanatic) today, she was trying to convince me to at least start saving the earth by using a reusable shopping bag. She explained that a person who pollutes the environment not only affects himself but it affects the whole world. She even gave me an analogy of that, it goes like this.
2 strangers are on a boat in the middle of the sea. One of the them starts to drill a whole underneath him. The other stranger, seeing what the 1st stranger is doing yelled at him, “Hey you, stop drilling a hole in the boat!”. The 1st stranger yelled back, “What business is it of yours? I’m drilling a hole underneath me, not you!”. The 2nd stranger replied angrily,“You idiot! We’re on the same boat!”
After that conversation with my friend, I’ve started to realise that we are connected somehow to each other and nature. Afterall we are on earth which is shared by all. Could it be there is an interconnectedness between us? How do we realise and feel this connection? Are we one collective soul?
Gmar, I have always believed that each human is connected to one another and we are all, in one way or the other, One.
When a man thinks to himself, ‘I am Great,’ It is guaranteed that every other human on this planet has thought that same thought at least once. Whether it was after winning the lottery or finding water in a desert. This proves that humans have an indefinite and unconscious all the same, although permanent relationship with one another.
Without satisfaction from others, this world would hardly be a world. Even to mate one must fulfill another’s satisfaction. We are constantly giving and taking this momentary Feeling. When kings would conquer kingdoms and lands, they would do so in order to gain the approval and endorsement of those around them. If kings had no people to rule or elders to find pleasure through, their would be no battles. If the world was so plain, it would not have wars or even petty arguments.
When your neighbor cuts his grass, he does so to gain the satisfaction of others. If their were no others, there would be no use in laboring.
If one were to lay out a hundred pots filled with water, the sun would shine in each and every pot. In this way we are interconnected. Although we each see ourselves as individual, we are all One.
You may also find “the small world” theory interesting if you have not yet heard of it, my friend.
I used to have this illusion perspective and partially do yet. However, I believe that if we were to look at it through a more open standpoint, our perception would be perceived as I described. Most would shun this idea out as quick as they came to know it.
Then do you also believe yourself to be in full control of all around you? For I find it hard that the Nothingness - as in Gmar, Nameless, Gib, RU, I, etc. - can provide you with anything of importance (knowledge wise) if we do not…exist. Explain this further for me. Is this space around you an illusion or does it not exist…at all. Rather, what role do we play in this world.
Do we to not exist? Interesting.
False. I’m not denying that I have had a thought perhaps similar to that which you express as ‘I am great’, but it certainly wasn’t the same. It gets worse when ‘I am great’ is replaced with ‘x’.
My subconscious is not the same as your subconscious. Might they share similarities? Sure. I would venture to say that this has nothing to do with our ‘oneness’, but rather the fact that we are both persons.
Overall, even if your premise were true, the conclusion does not follow.
You are correct in saying that.
However, I am more wondering than stating my steady beliefs here. What I think is that it must either be that each person has had the same feeling as the other or there is no way that one person could have had the same feeling as another. Of course, love is love, hate is hate, fear is fear - but do we have the exact same feelings?
It is just like the fact that one can never be certain whether the way I perceive the color blue is the same way You do. I don’t mean to sound so decisive.
I think that the emotion we pen fear is similar in all persons. Love might be more subjective, I don’t really know. Any which way, it is close enough that we can communicate a close approximation of what we are feeling using these descriptors, depending on how well the people know each other. It’s the substance (I don’t mean that too literally) of the thought stuff, abstraction, pondering, and what not that I think is significantly different. Even the systems we use to come up with those kinds of things can be tailored by an individual, in my opinion.
I agree. And yes, overall the feelings may be considerably the same. However, perhaps - although feelings are able to be distinguished apart as you mentioned above - the feelings are not completely identical. Not significant, however, somewhat extraordinary in a way.
In agreement with my friend I believe nature has already proven to us that we’re somehow connected to each individual in the web of humanity and also to nature, whether spiritual or not. The cause and consequence of each action each of us make affects everyone and nature, whatever we do affects everything.
Smears wrote:
That is true in a way. We are just perceiving light that bounces of something, we’re looking at a moving picture with our brains. We don’t ‘see’ everything as it is, we only ‘see’ information that our body reads… and it may be wrong. Our 5 senses works like an measuring apparatus and a medium between the object and us. So in a way, yes you are the only thing in the whole universe, but not it is not a figment of your imagination, it is just a dream that you can never wake up from. And in this ‘dream’ you need to live by its rules, that is if you jump, you will fall due to the law of gravity. If you steal, you will be jailed, etc.
