Your Beliefs?

Where do you stand religiously…or un-religously?

  • I believe in God and am part of a religious sect (which one)
  • I believe in God and do it in my own way (please elaborate)
  • I dont believe in God
  • im almost a buddhist…
  • im f*cking crazy (please elaborate)
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where do you stand…do you believe in God?

specify how you believe in God, and what religious sect you would align yourself with

do you not believe in God?

well then what do ya believe?

i just wanna get a general idea of what everyones beliefs are.

i dont expect you to reveal them. but i hope you do.

all im gonna say is im an athiest, but outside of that it gets complicated.

theravadan or mahayanan buddhist? it makes a difference how i answer.

The [true] God creature:

Unlike life on earth, the [true] God creature did not have the kinds of limits and abilities that life on earth had. The [true] God creature did not need to multiply [the way that cells and life on earth does] because his initial body had no growth limit or space limit. Secondly, the [true] God creature didn’t evolve per generation, it evolved internally, automatically.

^ Basic monotheist biology sort of theory here. ^
A being that can keep on growing and advancing, but it doesn’t reproduce.

Probably an energy based life form, or perhaps based on some other strange new matter/gas – in a nebula far far away.

That’s my “if there is a monotheist God in our universe” theory.

If “The Creator” created all of our universe, then “He” is just as “meaningless” and “heartless” as what “He” created. “God” making everything does not change the fact of how it really is right now.

Jesus Christ:

Obviously weak and hard to find. Not that useful in the grand scheme of life on earth. Lots of sub-denominations worship or believe in him, each are different and call each other “wrong”. Confusing mass of personal estimate and belief.

The Universe:

Firstly, how it got here is NOT as important as where it is going to be in the future.

Humanity & salvation:

No nuclear war please, give us 200 years to completely master the art of DNA construction, modification and advancement. A world brimming with SAI, immortal superhumans, ultra-efficient energy gathering methods and nano-construction-factories.

Initial interporatations of “the New System” where misinterporatations. The “New System” will "destroy ‘Babylon the Great’ (all false religion) and bring “Paradise” / “no more sickness, no’re more pain, no’re death” – through “the Truth” (shall set you free, etc) – Which is what is destroying/purifying false religion in modern times, which is science.

That’s right, I believe that “paradise” will come through science, not after a big bad genocide by God. No one has faith in science, not faith enough to believe that it will someday ressurect the [certian ressurectable] death [ones] and heal all sufferings.

Ye of little faith, few ever walking the earth believe in, [and want] the up-and-coming re-structuring of the human genome. Science didn’t exist for a long time, but just recently it has began to grow and change the entire inhabited earth. It shall continue to grow expotentially – and eventually bring true salvation in real ways to real people on earth, really.

Satan and Demons:

All action comes from desire and feeling. All feeling and desire has reason and meaning. [One interporatation of] “Evil” spirits represent(s) the natural desires that we have, which are hardest to control and come into direct conflict with modern [unnatural] civil or religious laws. Most people try to disown and opress these natural desires because they see them as enemies, but out of understanding I feel that all “evil” can be “cured” by redirection towards self-preserving assimilation instead of any self-destruct. These desires merely need slight redirection before they will become [basically] non-harmful.

red-ice.net/specialreports/2 … devil.html
^ This is a nice document on where the original image and idea came from.

Personal experience with “demonized” objects in the home, these are different then the original “evil” concept/label that I’d talked about. These sorts of supernaturals corrupt and program matter atomically, and the general effect that these supernaturals have on a person are non-sensical, crazey, and basically useless. These I’m not very affraid of anymore, but I believe they should always be avoided.

Eternal-life/Heaven:

If you want an afterlife in paradise, take a leap of faith in a different direction and get your body preserved in a chemical solution when you die. Write a living will :smiley:
Or, for a more expencive process, try cryonics [this would probably mean a more complete and early revival].

Just think of the feeling of having a new and eternally healthy body. No more pain and weakness! Try to have faith in this! Your a valuable person who doesn’t deserve to die and be lost forever. There is more then a 50% chance that someday, eventually the technology will exist that will be able to revive you, and those are good, real odds! Most people don’t know how advanced science and technology are getting right now, or where they are headed, but I’ve read allot about this and there are some VERY nice concepts ahead of us. What was once impossible, could become possible in not-too-long-of a time from now.

Maybe young people like me, people in their 20’s, will never die at all, and live on into this brave new world.

And there you have it, my current beliefs. I think the supernatural exists, is very misunderstood [I don’t trust the bible, for example, or the Buddha, or anyone without enough proof/reason], I think that science will eventually bring salvation to humanity [;we can keep nuclear war away for a few more decades, I hope!].

theravadan.

but if your ‘almost buddhist’ then i would say if you were to eventually become a buddhist then you would be mahayanan.

so for the sake of this poll…it doesnt make a difference…smart ass.
:smiley:

lol well i’ll never be mahayanan, i mean gautama even told them specifically “don’t worship me, i’m just a man, i’m not divine.”

but theravadan i can relate to. i wouldn’t call myself buddhist but i greatly respect a lot of their beliefs, aka, they mirror my own many times. however i consider myself christian (if you want to know why: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=1745451#1745451)

What if someone is a full-blown Buddhist? Why only almost?

That said, I’m a scientist (microbiologist working in hematology), with all the usual bases of the world that someone with that perspective has. On top of that I subscribe pretty much to the works of Xunzi, an early Confucian scholar.

Dear Mr.kepob,
i know how much you expect me too say something wih relation to TimeCube,but iv’e decided to back down from it.

you know the ‘almost a buddhist’ option was kind of meant as a joke.

actaully i wasnt thinking about you when i made that poll option…but you would fall into that catagory…not that being crazy is neccesarily a bad thing (i was half-joking with this option as well)

i don’t know,i could take to consideration Buddhism.

I answer the “Do you (not) believe in God?” question a la Alan Watts:
If you believe in God, then I don’t;
If you don’t, then I do.

I am a member of the Lutheran Church mainly because I like nailing things to doors of Catholic churches. :smiley:
There is more to it than that, but I might discuss that later.

QK

I am a jehovah’s witness.The first time i revealed this was in a little known thread in m.babble.

this i consider true christianity, all others i consider flawed.
you heard me,because of [i]the pagan teachings intertwined into them simply because they were popular at the time/i

now i’ve posted this link before but again:http://www.watchtower.org/

this is thier officail site, it should say enough i would think.

it is a sobering thought that aparently i am the only one on this site. :confused:

Who and what we are is just a means to an end, which can be modulated. All beliefs, opinions and values are optional and should be interchangable depending on the understanding and the situation.

I don’t like ridgid fundamentalism at all, because they have a hard time evolving or adapting/changing. You’d die for your beliefs? That’s not exactly what I’d call “practical”/“healthy”…

I believe we are all our own authors co-authoring a giant dostoyevski novel starring clowns.

(* Throws a custard pie *)

It’s a quote :wink:

Why was ‘Almost Buddhist’ included as a joke? It is a perfectly viable religious alternative. Merely by evoking the capitalized ‘God’, the Judeo-Christian heritage is normally implied. What about the Hindus on this site (they could use the ‘I believe in God’, I suppose, since ultimately there is Braham/Atman I can never remember which it is). What about the ought-right polytheistic shamans, or pagans?
At least include a ‘I believe in God(s) which sect’ catagory. As well as an out-and-out Buddhist (which sect) one. A most biased poll.

What poll isn’t?

most polls have a specific “demographical target” in mind and specifically focus their questions for the desired result.

That being said, I do don’t donut believe in god. If there is a god, we are the clams to his chowder. it doesn’t matter what we think of him or each other because he’s going to slurp us up with his crackers in a second!

We are the clams, I AM the chowder.

I am a composite spiritual being of my own sad and twisted dementia, bastardized by Western culture, and skewed by Eastern wisdom.

I believe I know just enough to know, absolutely nothing. To be completely certain that all that is known, qualifies as not an iota of the knowable, which is still greater than anything humanity will be able to ever prove it knows with absolute, irrefutable certainty.

I believe that humanity is not the apex of myriad creation, but rather the nadir, masquerading as the self proclaimed master, knowing not what it does to unravel it’s own future possibilities in a quagmire of maligned arrogance and sightlessness.

I mean all this quite cheerfully though.

I have my own religious beliefs with which I am quite content. They are, obviously, at least in part, wrong. This is in no small part because of the limitations of my three-dimensional thinking. The truth must be to some degree beyond the abilities of my, and your, imagination to conceive.

I, like almost all believers, expect to find out at least part of the greater truth one day. This being the case it doesn’t really matter what we believe beyond the fact that it seems to be a human need to make some sense of our illogical existence.

Whilst it doesn’t matter what we believe, what we actually do may well have some bearing on our future course of existence. So just be nice and debate the subject without animosity.

my personal catagorization of many philosophers…well at least i found it funny :cry:

but i was still serious…you can do both, you know be serious and try to be funny at the same time. also i wasn’t expecting to find any ‘real’ buddhists on this forum, they would be to busy with their seeking of a ‘mind state of nothingness’ then to waste their time with us confused ‘truth seekers’.

buddhist and philosophers are one in the same, but their goals are focused and require extreme dedictation. i like to think up things that probably will end up being completely useless but i find it interesting to explore my mind and read the thoughts of others
probably useless though…