Isn’t he the perfect specimen of Gnostic self-hatred?
Such feigned humility concealing so much compensatory arrogance…is shizoid.
In his mind I must be someone who said they are an illusion.
Doesn’t matter if I’ve said the opposite…what matters is that I fit his understanding of an atheist.
I don’t hate myself at all and I haven’t got psychological issues because I don’t claim to be an illusion.
It’s the standing joke now all over the forums.
Psychotic atheists who come on forums claiming to be an illusion trying to advise other individuals that they have a mental health problem.
Lol….it doesn’t get more hilarious than that.
Do you realise how stupid you look?
Really, he’s a study in gnosticism and schizophrenia, or he’s a very persistent troll.
Yeah, Jupes, but do you understand yourself?
He’s debating the voices in his skull…telling him they are illusions.
Keep running around that hamsters wheel ..lol..you have no idea how to get off it.
You haven’t the first clue what you are talking about….you merely pamper to other individuals in your religious cult because you feel safe in numbers.
You’ll be on your own at the end.You won’t have your cheer leaders.
Someone once told him he’s an illusion…and now he hears the voice echoing in his head…
Something to exploit.
Doesn’t matter what is actually said…what matters is that he prove his delusions.
The level of arrogance is proportional to his subconscious levels of self-doubt and self-hatred.
The level of arrogance that you lot spout out is utterly repulsive.
You are not an illusion!!!
You just don’t posses life ..how many times.
You exist and don’t exist becaue you don’t possess LIFE.
All matter vibrates and emits varying frequency electromagnetic waves.The individuals lifeless binary processing biological machine picks up these electromagnetic waves and the individual interprets these binary waves.
You are not matter or electromagnetic waves therefore.
See?
He insists that we believe we are illusions.
The arrogance of believing that an entire cosmos was created to preserve them, in perpetuity.
Astounding.
Such a degree of overcompensation must conceal a very deep sense of insecurity.
You don’t believe that you are an illusion now because it’s has been explained to you why that is hilarious.It needed to be explained to you why you exist because you need to exist to claim that you don’t exist as well.
You lot are so philosophically,scientifically and psychologically dull.
Yes…before I did believe I was an illusion…but you saved me.
Your explanations convinced me…yes.
You are not ill…yes.
Well shut up then.
You saved me…before that I believed I was an illusion.
Thank you messiah.
You are not ill…just as much as I thought I was an illusion.
The fascinating bit of this is the assumption that it is just a superficial distraction. The truth of the matter is that each and every one of us is trying to make sense of our lives. You have people who are quite happy just to play along with those around them, calling it belonging, and others who try to understand what sentient life and reality are all about. They pay attention in ways that people normally don’t.
They have questions and they find answers, theistic mysticism often describes encounters with the divine as experiences that transcend ordinary logic and the principle of non-contradiction. Mystics report states where apparent opposites—such as unity and multiplicity, good and evil, immanence and transcendence—are experienced as harmonised within the divine reality.
Christian mystics like Meister Eckhart and Nicholas of Cusa also emphasise that God is beyond all conceptual opposites, and true mystical knowledge arises from experiencing this unity. Mystics often articulate their experiences in paradoxical terms because the divine reality they encounter cannot be captured by ordinary, dualistic thinking.
It is like human beings cannot see like a bee, or other creature with a different optical system, or hear like a dog, but we have understood how they do. Our mind usually needs a means to evade the inhibitory influence of our brains and our conventions to recognise (erkennen) what we do not usually see. In alchemy, coincidentia oppositorum describes the union of opposing elements as the goal of the alchemical work, symbolising spiritual transformation and the integration of the self.
The concept has been influential in various mystical and philosophical traditions, including Tantric Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Sufism, and Western mysticism. Mircea Eliade, Carl Jung, and other modern thinkers have used the term to describe the psychological and mythical patterns where opposites are reconciled, leading to personal wholeness and transcendence.
Emil Cioran’s writing is famously marked by philosophical pessimism, existential doubt, and a deep sense of spiritual melancholy. The passage you quote—where Cioran references a Gnostic text claiming “the prayer of a melancholy man will never have the strength to rise unto God,” and then concludes that “since man prays only in despondency, we may deduce that no prayer has ever reached its destination”—is a quintessential example of his worldview.
Cioran’s own life was marked by insomnia, depression, and a persistent sense of existential crisis. His writing is often a form of philosophical confession, expressing his personal struggle with faith, doubt, and the search for meaning. The gloominess is not just rhetorical; it is an authentic reflection of his inner life.
Cioran notes a “certain ambiguity” in the spiritual stance of the Gnostics and Manicheans. While these sects are often associated with the pursuit of purity and salvation, he points out that they were, paradoxically, obsessed with evil “perverts of purity, compulsives of horror.” Their spiritual lives were defined not just by a longing for the divine, but by a relentless focus on the reality and persistence of evil.
Cioran suggests that for these mystics, evil was not just an adversary to be defeated, but a necessary counterpart to their spiritual striving. Without evil, their existence would be “vacant”—empty of meaning or purpose. In other words, the struggle against evil gave their lives drama, focus, and identity. They “hunted it down, unflagging,” making evil central to their spiritual narrative.
Curiously, Cioran’s own writing often revolves around the tension and interplay of opposites—good and evil, faith and doubt, salvation and damnation—reflecting a lived experience of paradox, which is central to the coincidentia oppositorum. However, Cioran’s approach is distinct from the reconciliatory or metaphysically optimistic tone often associated with coincidentia oppositorum. Where the doctrine traditionally seeks a higher synthesis or unity of opposites—“making peace” between them—Cioran dwells in the unresolved, tragic, and often irreconcilable nature of these dualities.
Mysticism, at its most profound, aims to transcend the simplistic binaries of good/evil, black/white, sacred/profane. The mystical experience is often described as a direct encounter with unity, oneness, or the divine ground where all opposites are reconciled (the coincidentia oppositorum). In theory, this should lead to a broader, more compassionate, and more inclusive understanding of reality.
St. John of the Cross and St. Teresa of Avila: Both describe the final stages of mystical union as a state in which the soul is so united with God that all separation and opposition dissolve. Teresa’s “spiritual marriage” and John’s “transforming union” are marked by a peace and love that transcend all earthly dualisms. Julian of Norwich’s mystical revelations repeatedly affirm that “all shall be well,” even in the face of sin and suffering, hinting at a vision where opposites are reconciled in divine love. Hildegard of Bingen’s visions describe a cosmos where everything is interconnected, and the divine is present in all creation, uniting opposites in a harmonious whole.
Sufi Mystics (e.g., Rumi, Ibn Arabi) often teach the unity of all existence (wahdat al-wujud), where the divine is both immanent and transcendent, and all opposites are ultimately reconciled in the One. The Tao Te Ching and other Taoist texts emphasise the unity of opposites (yin and yang), and the sage is one who lives in harmony with this unity.
While “true transcendence” is rare and difficult to sustain, the mystical literature—Christian and otherwise—does contain figures who have described and, by all accounts, realised this state. Their writings point to a lived experience of unity, paradox, and reconciliation that goes far beyond the inverted dualisms or fanaticisms you described. These mystics are the exceptions who, rather than becoming trapped in opposition, embody the coincidentia oppositorum and invite others to do the same.
From what I heard about Gnostics, their opinion is this.
God is to be overcome, they have disdain for god (the demiurge) for making a flawed world. They believe Satan is the chief architect of the world of flesh. They believe Jesus is the way to salvation.
Here’s another interesting Cioran excerpt on this topic:
“Hence the ancient Mysteries, so-called revelations of the ultimate secrets, have bequeathed us nothing by way of knowledge. The initiates were doubtless obliged to keep silence; yet it is inconceivable that not a single chatterbox was among their number; what is more contrary to human nature than such stubbornness in secrecy? The fact is that there were no secrets; there were rites, there were shudders. Once the veils had fallen, what could they discover but insignificant consequences? The only initiation is to nothingness- and to the mockery of being alive . . . And I dream of an Eleusis of disabused hearts, of a lucid Mystery, without gods and without the vehemences of illusion.”
What were his thoughts on Jesus?
There is nothing hidden which is not meant to be made perfectly plain one day, and there are no secrets which are not meant one day to be common knowledge, clear as daylight. There is nothing covered up which is not going to be exposed, nor anything private which is not going to be made public. The things I tell you in the dark you must say in the daylight. Whatever you may say in the dark will be heard in daylight, and whatever you whisper within four walls, and the things you hear in your private ear, you must proclaim and shout from the housetops. I had always spoken quite openly to the world. I had always taught in the synagogue or in the temple where all the Jews meet together, and I had said nothing in secret.
If a person has ears they should use them!
— Jesus
People are most familiar with Christian Gnosticism but what has always interested me is the pagan Gnosticism that preceded before it.
You can take the p*ss as much as you like it’s water of a ducks back when you know the truth and you don’t.
God adopts a +/-=+/- philosophy for his creation and he isn’t remotely interested in an atheists +=- and -=+ or a theists +=+ and -=- cognitively biased starting philosophy and their futile attempts to reinvent science.
Einstein hadn’t got a clue about how all the sciences are interconnected or the forces to adopt to prove it.
Orphism…
As always all three Abrahamic variants stole their ideas from the Greeks…corrupted them and resold them as their own.