You/life being too easy violates your own consent because if you put up a resistance, you learn something about if the other person will build with or against you (and the longer you resist, the more time it gives you to acquire information), and if you put up no resistance, your consent will not be informed consent, and so will not be true consent—because only an omniscient person can give fully informed consent, which is why God is the great consent violator, because he doesn’t create us fully informed—lol jk—we are informed on a need-to-know, capable-of-handling basis—so it’s a good thing we are only held as responsible as we are informed or able to inform ourselves.
This is true whether or not we live or die forever.
We begin to be informed about eternity once we wonder about (im)mortality. If we weren’t confident all ends well, we would be too afraid to risk life unless we became numb to its value… which is life whow, exactly?
This is true even for those who choose not to procreate. There are many other ways to add life/beauty to the world. None of them is a waste.
What he demonstrated is an eternal truth. No one else has ever fully demonstrated it because it is a truth that only one can fully demonstrate. If everyone could perfectly demonstrate it, there would have been no need for demonstration … hm. Well, for one, It wouldn’t be for the purpose of informing, because we’d already know. For two, it would be from a fullness, as the current demonstration is, BUT…. something I have never thought about before… It would look differently than the crucifixion. But how? Would it just look like adding more beauty to Eden, if you grant Eden was/is real? Would it look like Eve and femalekind doin their share of the sweating & Adam and malekind doin their share of the nurturing? I mean, voluntarily because they want to? we can do that now by spending our time, talent, & treasure on contributing to the good, beautiful, and true we want to see in the world (not just of objects, but of each other). self=other stuff that does expend effort, but is also enjoyable…
That’s what Jesus was all about. But considering the fact that we did not follow the law written on our hearts despite knowing it in every major culture in history… and the consequences resulting from that… I can see why he demonstrated it in the way he did. Sometimes you gotta move that mountain to get that camel through the eye of that needle.
From my perspective Jesus performed miracles but gave himself as the answer.
He should have left it open ended.
Said something like, “consent violation is the only problem and we need to not violate it the best we can until the problem is solved for every being.”
Then our lives wouldn’t have been wasted.
He wasted all his miracles just to tell everyone, “it’s finished”
Fuck, we haven’t even started.
I work this job.
I actually do have a meditation technique.
Several. But that’s beside the point.
I throw all my understanding and knowledge away…
And then I see what still stays.
One thing that always stays is that nobody wants to be hurt. Masochists don’t hurt when they experience what we consider hurt. It brings them sublime joy.
If they’re an empath masochist…. They feel better the more people who suffer.
Make everything conform to the law of noncondradiction & tune out the noise/inconsistency. If something is in your face with the contradictions, ask questions until it stops, or focus on stuff that has no contradictions in it until the contradictory source starts making sense. Treat it like you would want to be treated if you were contradicting yourself. Imagine scenarios in which you would contradict yourself to figure out possible reasons why something else is contradicting itself.
Dan,
If you start a new thread, I think this would be a great topic on its own. I feel weird crashing Ec’s thread.