Was just wondering about how more intellectuals feel about it. I read a lot on other forums. It is pleasure to the senses and emotions, bonds two people kinda.
If/when I lose my virginity will I ever be the same? I cannot grasp it, because sex is not a school of thought, its an experience. I think about it every day. I am 18.
Anyway, just dunno if anything would be the same after. Would I be the same person, or different. It is intense no doubt.
You won’t be the same, but life will go on.
Bad train of thought man! WHEN, WHEN, WHEN! Forget that doubt shit when it comes to gettin’ some.
Cool, im not the only 18 year old here. Personally i think its over rated, but then again, it might have been because of the girl i was with. I think its fun and it does form a bond depending on how and who you have sex with. I know that as annoying as my ex is id still protect her with my life if needed, even though i broke up with her.
Intimacy is extremely powerful. I will leave it at that for now.
Today, a girl that I had sex with 3 years ago whom I don’t see that often anymore came over to pick up her brother (my roomate and best friend) to go to the airport. She asked a question about the morning after pill. Strong and immediate emotional response followed. I felt silly, but it still happened. Surely an intense thing.
Sex makes me horny.
Most cases of homocide and abuse happen either between lovers, mates, partners, girlfriend boyfriend stuff, or partents/family members against their children, etc.
Most of the criminally recorded cases of harm and “anamocity”
[although the natural animal is usually not acting in such a way]
These cases are all between “lovers”, or, between older family and children. In essence, human hate is love-based, so go fucking figure. Their “love” is a craving to have, take, infiltrate and control eachother. It’s slave’s-love, the sickest kind. And it has no shape, it will strike down the quality of your orgasms too… 
I am a 20 year old virgin. I have had offers ( and forceful ones… ) for intercourse but shudder at the thought of sharing my body with the thoughtless characters around me. I sometimes develop cruches on lecturers for the simple reason that they are smart like me and actually think about life, and they have an upper class sense of humor. I feel myself sliding into a lonely world because of this. People think I am crazy because I do not live like the other students and frown at the thought of casual sex. I regard the sexual experience as a very big deal and quite frankly would want to stay a virgin for the rest of my life rather than fuck a dumbo. I am becoming neurotic because I am human and crave, as Freud would point at me and know, but I will stand by my decision. The smartest people I know are also very prude ( although perhaps they are low on confidance ), so we all stick together and pretend we don’t want boyfriends and girlfriends and that makes us feel better. Sex is a big deal, and I think to integrate it properly with every part of your life will be more rewarding. Ciao. Good Luck.
I have tried to explain my position in my thread called “The Ethics of Sex”. But that thread is six pages long. I will quote excerpts from the things I said there here.
“Sex is coitus. When sex is not coitus the mind is deceiving the body or even itself.”
Some have pointed out the contradiction within this sentence. What I meant is, when something other than coitus is thought of as “sex”.
“The sexual drive is the will to insemination.”
I will amend this statement later.
“Sex feels good because the body affirms its own propagation. And, as I said, the mind can deceive the body and even itself: it is pleasurable even to imagine insemination.”
“Saying the obvious is not redundant in a world where “everyone” is deceiving themselves. The typical 20-ish female student wants sex, but not pregnancy. Just imagine everywhere you hear the word “sex” today it would be replaced by “mating” (e.g., “to have sex” would become “to mate”).”
“I will change the title of this thread to “The Ethics of Sex”. I am appealing to the virtue of Honesty. This is what ties Nietzsche’s ethics of art, his ethics of religion, of knowing, of creativity, and of history.”
This is why I called my thread “The Ethics of Sex”. What is “unethical” here is to deceive oneself - mendaciousness.
"Philosophy, for me, is love of knowledge (“wisdom” in the archaic sense), and knowledge can only be knowledge of the truth. Whether there is a truth about reality can be disputed; that there is a truth to the world can, in my eyes, not. The truth is that in “the world”, i.e., the contemporary Western world, sex is generally understood as an end rather than a means - a pleasant end with possibly unpleasant consequences, like STDs, and pregnancy…
“What raises the philosopher above the masses is his truthfulness, or, perhaps a preferable word, his honesty. Honesty, cognate with “honour” as a word, is also integral with honour as a quality. So the ethics of sex are intricately tied to the very discipline of philosophy. Honesty about sex, towards oneself first and foremost, is therefore a touchstone of philosophy - honesty in the face of reality, to use your word.”
“The sexual drive is the will to impregnation through natural insemination.”
“We know this. And yet we deceive our bodies by masturbating, especially in combination with fantasising or consuming pornographic material, or by using contraceptives or having non-coital sex. Thus we deceive ourselves, but this is not the worst kind of self-deception. The worst kind of self-deception lies in believing in (id est, holding dear to) the idea that sex is not (only) a means, but (also) an end in itself. The development of a means to an end in itself is no elevation, but degeneration. For what happens to sex from which the goal has been severed? We play the game for the game’s own sake - for the sheer fun of playing. We still shoot, but not necessarily at the goal; and when we shoot at the goal, even into it, there is always a rubber barrier ensuring us the goal does not count. How long does such a game stay fresh? The missionary position, anyone? Who wants to have plain old-fashioned sex when the true, deep satisfaction of “scoring” has been removed from the act? One has to invent ways of keeping it interesting - all the sexual perversions belong here. Maybe if I tie a rope around my penis sex will feel fresh again - for awhile. I don’t have to go into more graphic details. The only way sex will stay fresh without being perverted is by keeping it firmly connected to its natural end. Sex shall be hetero, vaginal, and unprotected. And even sexual fantasy shall be about this form of sex. Such sexual fantasy is the creation of an image of a partner with whom one would want to have children. And when looking for a sexual partner, one should keep that image in mind. Sex with a partner with whom one would mind to have children shall be self-denial.”
Society puts alot of mystique around something that creates a physical and emotional sensation for a couple of minutes at the most for both man and woman. Out of a 24 hr day its not relly that much. But society loves the drama and mystique surrounding it. Its like a species addiction.
Oddly enough the genders aproach the act from differing ways thanks to the wierd machinations of society.
Guys prefer the icing to it and women prefer the cake to it. And somewhere in the middle two folks who really love each other get the icing and the cake. Most that are single, get one or the other.
The Icing is the orgasim, the cake is the intimacy leading up to the orgasim.
It is an act that has no real use other than an addictive rush of sensations. The vast majority of us do not wish to reproduce before during or after the act. We just want that fix. Sometimes we get it sometimes we don’t Sometimes our partner gets it and we don’t and visa versa. If you are a virgin don’t sweat it. Keep it in perspective. Its an overrated addiction that does not last as long as a good conversation. Its great if you have the ability to be honest with your partner and you feel safe and secure. If not you may onlyget the Icing or the cake. Wait til you know you can get both. It reallyis much better that way.
I heard the typical male thinks about sex constiantly, like every number of seconds, I don’t know the number (I heard 5). I really doubt this is true, but maybe I’m just unusual because I barely think about it.
I barely think about ‘sex’ when I do think about these things. I mostly just think about the female form, and that can lead me to thinking about sex.
Does anyone know any statistics on this stuff?
A car crash need only take a couple of seconds, yet it can change lives. Compare this to a rape, which will take a couple of minutes, at least.
These machinations of society reflect the difference in biology between men and women.
Yes: consciously. But why do we want that fix? Was propagation a chance occurrence that resulted from an act human beings just happened to find pleasurable? Or did they find it pleasurable because it led to procreation - an instinctive pleasure-seeking that goes back way beyond the emergence of homo sapiens? I am a teleologian. I don’t believe something like eyes just came into being, and that it was a happy accident that they allowed the organism to see. I say form does, and should, follows function.
Why? So you can wait around till your 32, finally get laid, and then be horrible in bed and drive off whatever guy you happen to find? Or better yet, wait till you’re married, find out he’s horrible in bed and has a small dick.
Saving yourself for unavailable profs is the road to abstinence and vibrators.
Depends on how much you value sex and whether you can control you sex drive. The hunger for sex is function of internal biology so it’s influence will always be there but the influence fluctuates up and down as time goes along.
Sex is pleasurable but don’t feel bad for the times you’re missing out on it, you’ll waste a lot of time not being careful about who you hook up with and your future if you don’t make good decisions.
If you spend too much time relating, other area’s of your life will suffer… for instance I had a girlfriend who hated video games and I’m a gamer, so sex is important definitely, but it won’t save you if there is too much friction.
Make sure you read Neil Strauss’s the game, and get a copy of the mystery method, and david de angelo’s double your dating… (you can download them for free @ the you know what sites) if you haven’t had sex yet and are not a social person, etc… you’re going to need some advice. Those are the best places to start.
my view on sex…
I’m an old man…have lived with her a long time…from about 9 years old in the projects… through a major whory jaunt through se asia…to the free love hippy days…and forward to today.
I gotta say I love her, but it’s not something I enjoy talking about (never did) it’s one of those things you just do…and it’s a hell of a lot better with someone you trust and care about…
two bodies locked together…two souls joined as one, until no separation can be found and the dancer became the dance…
porno demeans her…one night stands cheapen her…love enhances her…age ripens her like a fine wine…
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Haha, you sound like the Little Bouilloux Girl.
Thanx for replys. I hardly post on here because people don’t talk in english. They talk with all kinds of intellect rhetoric that even my professors don’t use. They talk normal so everyone can understand. I don’t get some of theses posts, but thanks anyway.
I’m more of a prude, and wouldn’t rush into it. But that also hinders the possiblility. So its Ironic.
So it is good stuff, and everyone says it depends who you are with and if it is a fling or love. Still intense stuff.
Horns make me sexy.