Will machines completely replace all human beings?

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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Fri May 16, 2014 12:58 am

James S Saint wrote:Obama signed the executive order that allows any experimentation on the population as long as it is justified by "National Security" (which of course is anything and everything).

Any experimentation on the population! That's unsurpassable dictatorship!
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Orbie » Fri May 16, 2014 1:10 am

Arminius wrote:
James S Saint wrote:Obama signed the executive order that allows any experimentation on the population as long as it is justified by "National Security" (which of course is anything and everything).

Any experimentation on the population! That's unsurpassable dictatorship![/quote


No it just appears that way. He is only a figurehad.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Orbie » Fri May 16, 2014 1:24 am

it's always been the military-industrial complex. They have the big guns: the super duper computers. The fact is, society is almost at the lowest ebb of integrating both concepts: democracy and capital. The ultimate failure is when democracy as a social system cannot support it's self, through free enterprise. We are, and it is a gut level feeling, at a very critical point in the history of social economics, the last Great Recession was just symptomatic, like they say, of overall weakness. The trick is, One is led to believe, you can't have one without the other, and they may be right.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby barbarianhorde » Fri May 16, 2014 1:09 pm

Arniminus, lol you bastarrrdo. U machine hatah
Why you hatin son you machine hatin on a machinelol
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Fri May 16, 2014 1:21 pm

Arminius wrote:
James S Saint wrote:Obama signed the executive order that allows any experimentation on the population as long as it is justified by "National Security" (which of course is anything and everything).

Any experimentation on the population! That's unsurpassable dictatorship!

Well he has done truly unbelievable things that no one in their right mind would stand for. He even tried to illegally move nuclear weapons into central USA (apparently in preparation for another false flag attempt. Muslims aren't very good at such guile). When the military commanders in charge of such things simply said, "no", they were fired. But the list of atrocities he has participated in is endless.
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It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri May 16, 2014 2:50 pm

James, please link to that exec order so I can show it to people.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Lev Muishkin » Fri May 16, 2014 2:55 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Arminius wrote:
James S Saint wrote:Obama signed the executive order that allows any experimentation on the population as long as it is justified by "National Security" (which of course is anything and everything).

Any experimentation on the population! That's unsurpassable dictatorship!

Well he has done truly unbelievable things that no one in their right mind would stand for. He even tried to illegally move nuclear weapons into central USA (apparently in preparation for another false flag attempt. Muslims aren't very good at such guile). When the military commanders in charge of such things simply said, "no", they were fired. But the list of atrocities he has participated in is endless.


You all jump in like rats down a drain-pipe!
Here one barely believable rumour that the hated black-at-the-top has done and you are all over him like a rash.

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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Fri May 16, 2014 7:56 pm

barbarianhorde wrote:Arniminus, lol you bastarrrdo. U machine hatah
Why you hatin son you machine hatin on a machinelol
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Lol
Nope!

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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Fri May 16, 2014 8:29 pm

obe wrote:The fact is, society is almost at the lowest ebb of integrating both concepts: democracy and capital.

Actually capitalists don't want competition, rivalry and so on. So it leads to more corruption and to socialism. Socialism needs capital in order to exist. So it leads to more corruption .... Simultaneously democracy changes in its abnormal form ochlocracy and leads at last to anarchy (chaos). So the all-time winner gets his monarchy.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Lev Muishkin » Fri May 16, 2014 8:34 pm

Arminius wrote:
obe wrote:The fact is, society is almost at the lowest ebb of integrating both concepts: democracy and capital.

Actually capitalists don't want competition, rivalry and so on. So it leads to more corruption and to socialism. Socialism needs capital in order to exist. So it leads to more corruption .... Simultaneously democracy changes in ist abnormal form: ochlocracy and leads at last to anarchy (chaos). So the all-time winner gets his monarchy.


An interest stream of non-sequiters. Thanks for that unique insight into the working of your mind.

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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Fri May 16, 2014 8:43 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Arminius wrote:
James S Saint wrote:Obama signed the executive order that allows any experimentation on the population as long as it is justified by "National Security" (which of course is anything and everything).

Any experimentation on the population! That's unsurpassable dictatorship!

Well he has done truly unbelievable things that no one in their right mind would stand for. He even tried to illegally move nuclear weapons into central USA (apparently in preparation for another false flag attempt. Muslims aren't very good at such guile). When the military commanders in charge of such things simply said, "no", they were fired. But the list of atrocities he has participated in is endless.

He has never been beloved, has he?
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Fri May 16, 2014 9:22 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:James, please link to that exec order so I can show it to people.

Well that is certainly an easy thing to ask for, but...

Realize the executive orders in the USA aren't as they used to be 50 years ago. Long ago, each order was a specific item of concern, easily understood and specific, and only for use during obvious emergencies such as war time (the only reason executive orders exist). But these days, an executive order will pretty simply point out a few items, but each of those items is actually an entire agenda of perhaps 100's of more specific items which are then laid out in sometimes 100's of pages of legalese with tricky wording. And when you are concerned about anything involving the general public, they are always written to be concealed in rhetoric; "plausible deniability" and "obscurity".

The very term "Terrorist", not being officially defined at first, led to each department making its own definition. Homeland Security's definition ended up being "Any act undermining the structure of the USA" (or something close to that). But realize that to the DHS, anything that gets in their way is "undermining the structure of the USA" because they are a part of that structure (now).

So I'll have to do some serious mining and dig deep to find that particular item and wording. I remember from years ago a variety of youtube exposes on that issue. I watched the Army's experiments on their own as well as Texas police on college students (of which they were not aware). I read the Air Forces extremely technical report on the exact nature of their subtle weapons concerning the use of microwave affects upon the brain. But just now quickly searching, those videos have been removed (a great many disappear every day without notice).

But in the mean time, a few related and still up on your net are the following;
Dr Barrie Trower: Experimentation on the Public

The HAARP Project

Leuren Moret, "WhistleBlower"


It is all U.N., New World Order, G8 and G20 residue (the God-wannabes).


Arminius wrote:He has never been beloved, has he?

Only when they were putting him into office.
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From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby IvoryMan » Sat May 17, 2014 5:09 am

Probably not ... civilization is a delicate thing
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Sat May 17, 2014 7:39 am

It is not possible to rule and govern the world population (today: about 7 billions) democratically, it is not possible to rule and govern the population of the EU (today: about 500 millions) democratically, it is not possible to rule and govern the population of the US (today: about 300 millions) democratically in the long run. Merely populations which numbers are not higher than the number of a village or a polity (ancient Greece) can be ruled democratically in the long run.

So, what happened in hnistory when former small populations growed and became controllable? The form of government changed! Democraties changed to monarchies. De facto the European nations are only 10%- or 20%-nations because they depend on the EU (correctly also called: EUSSR), and this political monster is not ruled democratically. Those who believe in a "democratic" EU or other lies have no idea how power, rule, goverrnace, authority, command, leadeship, control work, especially in the long run.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Sat May 17, 2014 5:18 pm

Arminius wrote:It is not possible to rule and govern the world population (today: about 7 billions) democratically, it is not possible to rule and govern the population of the EU (today: about 500 millions) democratically, it is not possible to rule and govern the population of the US (today: about 300 millions) democratically in the long run. Merely populations which numbers are not higher than the number of a village or a polity (ancient Greece) can be ruled democratically in the long run.

So, what happened in hnistory when former small populations growed and became controllable? The form of government changed! Democraties changed to monarchies. De facto the European nations are only 10%- or 20%-nations because they depend on the EU (correctly also called: EUSSR), and this political monster is not ruled democratically. Those who believe in a "democratic" EU or other lies have no idea how power, rule, goverrnace, authority, command, leadeship, control work, especially in the long run.

Therefore "keep it small". Stop trying to govern the entire world. It is called "distributed intelligence" rather than "central intelligence". They would have been wiser to have formed the "Distributed Intelligence Agency", DIA, instead of the CIA. But that would have taken a wisdom they didn't have at that time. IBM learned much later the serious advancement of DIA over CIA. And DIA is fundamentally democratic.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
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From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Sat May 17, 2014 6:13 pm

James S Saint wrote:Dr Barrie Trower: Experimentation on the Public ...,

Interesting. Do you know Barrie Trower?
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Sat May 17, 2014 6:18 pm

Arminius wrote:
James S Saint wrote:Dr Barrie Trower: Experimentation on the Public ...,

Interesting. Do you know Barrie Trower?

Depends on why you ask. 8)
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
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From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Sat May 17, 2014 7:15 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Arminius wrote:
James S Saint wrote:Dr Barrie Trower: Experimentation on the Public ...,

Interesting. Do you know Barrie Trower?

Depends on why you ask. 8)

According to his own statement Dr. Barrie Trower has given iInformation about his job as an agent. That is dangerous.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Sun May 18, 2014 12:12 am

Intelligence is a dangerous business.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
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From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Sun May 18, 2014 11:22 am

James S Saint wrote:Intelligence is a dangerous business.

Of course, it is, James.

The human beings will change very much because the interest are mainly concentrated on controlling. Replacement by the machines of their rulers on the one side and genetic influences caused by the military, the intelligence services, or the secret services of their rulers on the the other side will either lead to the complete replacement, thus the elimination of all human beings, or to the partial replacement and complete genetic change in the direction of the "Eloi" (and the difference between them and the "Eloi" of the film will merely be an aesthetical one).
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Historyboy » Sun May 18, 2014 1:51 pm

But you are not in danger.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Sun May 18, 2014 3:37 pm

"Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise."
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Wed May 21, 2014 9:23 pm

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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Wed May 21, 2014 9:31 pm



The "service economy" was declared for America back in the 60's.
The East is to be the manufacturing economy.

Thus the West is to be female and the East is to be male.
..until they each get completely replaced with machines (women are no longer needed once there are no men).
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Wed May 21, 2014 10:10 pm

Would you mind telling more about that "service economy"?
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