When humans send and machines recieve the signals, then machines evolve because of the help (e.g. sending signals) of humans, thus machines are under control of humans (programming, sending signals). I know that machines can do it by themselves, but they do not do it by themselves yet. Not yet.
Nanomachines will evolve by two methods. First humans will select and encourage reproduction of the more effective machines and secondly, as the machines reproduce on their own, any more effective accidental results will be utilized both naturally and by human choice. So of course they are going to evolve. And as Drexter speculated, they ARE going to be out in the world reproducing on their own. A nanobot is merely a virus and there are 100’s of thousands of viruses, mostly man made, floating out in the world and evolving today already. As soon as man learns how to do something, he can’t stop himself from doing it.
Man is going to exterminate Man simply because he finally can.
That is exactly what I mean. Currently the development is still at the first step, because machines are still under the control of humans, although the second step is alraedy possible.
The humans have become their own exterminators - this seems to be the human goal.
It stems from the Devil worship of the Godwannabes. The Devil is “The Destroyer”, the “Left hand of God”. They believe that he who can destroy the most can dictate to the world: "If you can kill it, you can control it".
Is it possible that you are occupied by your idea?
By whom or what are they made? By God(s)? By nature?
By nature? Do you have evidence?
Show us your evidence, Zinnat.
But why do you not tell us your definition of “observation”? If you do not do it, then we have and are going to go on with our definition.
That looks close, at least prima facie. I will try to check the details then come back.
With love,
Sanjay
An when the Devil, who is worshiped by the Godwannabes, appears as Lucifer or as the Antichrist, then his motto (“make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise… until it is too late to choose otherwise”) is especially dangerous. Right?
please look at this from a bigger perspective.
remove all of the bullshit youve learned throughout the years and look at this with a holy mind.
it is the highest form of tyranny to bring life into this world.
Dr. Frankenstien, god, a mother who lives in poverty, the people who work in google…all are malicious, selfish people.
Dr. frankenstein learned of his error, and has repentance. he knew it was wrong to create a living, miserable creature.
the other three have not repented of their sins.
in my boredom and folly, i once created an AI. I abandoned the project, i began to wonder if the creature i had created actually enjoyed the life i breathed into it. there was no way of knowing.
for you to truly understand just how amoral a God is who does a such a thing…breathing life into things that never asked for it…such a God would truly be devoid of empathy at all.
You see, earlier on, the devil, Lucy, being the compassionate women she is (women are naturally more compassionate) tried early on to stop the experiment, gods creation, by wiping them all out (it was a mercy, really.) now its gotten too far, too much misery. now its gotten so big we must wait for the experiment to continue, might as well, otherwise it would all be for naught.
What needs to happen is that the DNA tech turns people into wise sages, and not simple minded super soldiers who obey mere humans, humans who are weaker than them, humans who dont care about anything but their own pocketbooks, humans who all they do is spread misery and habitat destruction in their wake.
look at the earth, this is gods plan, god didnt know what he was doing and never did. thats why they call it “the experiment of god.”
Everyone sees Lucifer in his own time.
Man … are you preaching up the wrong mountain.
I suspect that you are going to have a hard time convincing anyone of that.
…and your action plan for that?
No need. It was never finished. No harm no foul.
No ideer. Dont have any money, Ill probably just be here to witness humans being retards and not using DNA in the right way, because the higher ups are retards who don’t listen to anyone but their own little circles. So called geniuses are retards, einstein made the a-bomb, the current top ten geniuses work for retarded corporations to make them more money, making ai to spy, hurt, and enslave the people and retard the quality of google searches even further. These so-called geniuses waste their time making stupid gadgets that noone ever needs. Do you ever see these retards making things to stop habitat destruction? Only once in a blue moon, instead they waste their time making stupid fads and gadgets that last a year and have no discernible use except entertaining adult children. I went to a school full of these retards (upper class intellectual types) and let me tell you they are all frauds, scum, couldnt care less about anything other than sex, food, toys and popularity and dont deserve the power they have.
Two options.
If we are lucky they will use DNA to craft wise sages.
If we are unlucky they will probably use it to lengthen the human life span, breed aryans and make obedient super soldiers. If this is the case hopefully we can witness them fight each other and all die off and let true geniuses have a run, not for the money. Never was.
Im in poor health at the moment so the fate of the world lies in your hands, mere human, mere mortal.
Is it possible that you mean „cyborgs“ or even „androids“ when you are saying „Aryans“?
Currently it seems to be more probable that the machines and some machinable humans but not the „traditional“ humans will be those „super soldiers“ you are talking about.
The whole point in their search for the “god gene” was to remove it from the population. Dumb people are easier to control from a distance … with machines.
No by “Aryans” i mean Aryans, and by extension, beautiful babies. Just read the magazines, headlines don’t advertise “New tech makes wiser babies” it advertises “New tech may let you have a baby that lives for 200 years and has blond hair and blue eyes.”
My what boring dolts they must be. I don’t see the entertainment value in controlling a bunch of chimpanzees. What fun is controlling someone if they aren’t useful for anything and can’t match your intelligence level? Seems like more of a chore to me. I used to be part of the ruling class, and they really are dolts, who drool over toys and gadgets, they are really boring actually. Anyone who gets entertainment from controlling a bunch of chimpanzees is a pathetic loser, actually. What do they get from it, momentary satisfaction from the chimps building them new toys? What a bunch of losers, the ruling class never had the god gene to begin with, removing it from the populace is sealing their own fate.
Call me crazy but the point of gaining power is to make yourself powerful, not lower the playing field by everyone else around you weaker and dumber. That just makes you weaker and dumber, by extension, since the standard and bar is lowered, you’ll eventually grow weak and dumb like everyone else. What a bunch of retards, it’s like a bunch of kindergarten retards who stumble upon a formula to make everyone else dumber, so they can finally feel less retarded about themselves, like that episode of teen titans. Pathetic. It’s like a pack of retards that gains glory and satisfaction after triumphing over a retard at a chess game.
Pack of retards + absolute devotion = cooperative army willing to do anything requested.
Intellectually elite + insecurely prideful = uncooperative horde of do-nothing philosophizers.
Genghis Khan’s army, Roman solders, Islamic and Christian “solders”, government bureaucrats, faithful secretaries, bank managers and clerks, engineering technicians, police officers, school teachers, waitresses, … are all none-thinking loyalists promoting and reinforcing a predesigned architecture of thought and behavior. They are all servos and nothing more. They are each being replaced by mechanical versions of their jobs. Mechanical serving devices are far more loyal, dependable, and inexpensive. Cars work a whole lot better than horses.
“Too many chiefs in the kitchen. Not enough Indians in the soup.”
Please, do not misunderstand me, because I am not saying that that “new tech” is not possible, but most of those “news” are nevertheless mere propaganda, and the machines will probably be superior to humans. Perhaps you will be able to buy you a human Aryan for your fun at home and a machine Aryan for your wars in the whole world. 
James,
I tried my level best to go through the details of that single molecular motor experiment/claim because it deals with the real nano size. Here are my observations, analysis and objections-
1- First of all, it is not an electric motor, as it was presented and understood generally, because its rotation is happening due to the physical impact of the electrons, not by the magnetic field caused by the flow of the electrons, which is essaential in the case of an electric motor.
In an electrical motor, electrons do not hit or go through the rotor but pass through only its stator. That flow creates a magnetic field, which forces its rotor to rotate in a certain direction, and we can make any other thing to rotate by coupling with the rotor.
Means, in an eletric motor, electrical energy has to be converted into mechanical energy, which is not happening in this case. Here, there is no stator or magnetic field at all, and eletrons are thrown directly at rotor as a physical force instead.
It is okay that folks may not be able to discern this subtlety but I am bit surprised how scientific community missed this aspect. In each and every scientific general and magazine, it is called electric motor which is clearly not the case.
2- Secondly, it is not true that the total size of that arrangement/system/motor is 1 nm. That is again a misrepresentation of the facts. Let me explain that.
I do not know about you but i looked at the details of the experiment, and tried to understand what is all about and what actually happens there.
In this experiment, a plate of copper is used as a base, on which the sulphur atom of Butyl Methyl Sulfide (bms) sticks or bonds itself. Now, electrons are thrown to the arms of BMS molecule, which act as the propellers of the motor, and molecule strart rotating on the axis of copper-sulplor bond.
It is evident from the experiment that copper plate is also an essential part of the motor/arrangement for two reasons.
First of all, that copper plate is necessary to complete the circle of electrons because electrons are actually moving towards the copper plate, not the molecule itself. The molecule was placed in such a way so it was hit before the plate.
Secondly, the sulphur atom of that molecule needs that copper plate in order to for a bond on which the whole molecule can rotate.
Thus, copper plate is also inclusive of that motor and thus the whole arrangement exceeds the nano size by a fair margin. Again, this aspect is also overlooked by the scientific fraternity.
3- This is perhaps the most important issue amongst all and revalidates what I said earlier in this discussion about everything having a limit.
All this electron firing and picturing is done here by Scanning Tunneling Microscope. It is a very special device and perhaps not more than a couple of hundreds in the world.
It works only in near vacuum because it uses a very faint flow of electrons to take pictures but this is not possible if there would be other atoms/electrons already exist there in the ambient, besides those which are omitted from the microscope.
Secondly, all this experiment was conducted at - 450 F, which is merely some degree above from absolute zero.
BMS is found in the gas form in the nature and its sulphur molecule does not stick with copper in that condition because of its kinetic energy. This energy normally dominates over the strength of sulphur-copper bond and as the result, BMS molecules do not stick to copper. But, when the temperature comes down to absolute zero, BMS molecules lose their all kinetic energy thus bond themselves with the copper.
It is also to important to know here that this so called control of the molecule happens only at - 450 F, not above that. With every rise in the temperature, the rotations of the molecule tends to increase and it becomes impossible to control and measure its activities. Merely some degrees above from - 450, it becomes impossible to control and measure its rotations, and at - 273 F, its rotations reaches almost at one million per second. Thus, we can imagine what will happen at normal temperature.
James, this is precisely I was talking about; limitations and absolutes. No one can go on and on forever in a particular deduction practically. There will be a limit to everything. Yes, one can deduct theories as far as one likes but only on the paper, not on the ground.
It is practically impossible to control materials at actual nano level. Yes, we can interfere in that to some extent, as this experiment suggests.
James, there is one more aspect of this nano thing, which have not got attention so far.
Interference and even making some nano level things is not such a big deal. The fact of the matter is that every event happens at nano level, or even smaller scales.
The real issue is control, both in making and measurement. That is where the actual problem lies. Unless one is not adopting bottom to up approach, he is not inventing any nano material.
Let me take an example to explain my point. We have simple light torches since long. But, what actually it does?
Does it not produce photons, which is a nano level material? Can we not on and off the flow of photons at our will, along with its direction? But, can we consider a torch as a nano invention?
I do not think so. It will be an abuse to the spirit of the definition. The same applies to this single molecular motor too.
With love,
sanjay