Will machines completely replace all human beings?

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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Orbie » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:13 pm

Please try me, I always had some kind of feeling that therewas more to this. Is it a kind of thing, as when FDR knew that Japan was going to stage a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, andd then decided not to publickly acknowledge it for want of a reason to declare war at a time of extreme public feelings for
isolationism?

Is it some sort of behind the scenes manipulation of public sentiment? If that is it, then it would modify my scepticism.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:15 pm

Orbie wrote:Please try me, I always had some kind of feeling that therewas more to this. Is it a kind of thing, as when FDR knew that Japan was going to stage a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, andd then decided not to publickly acknowledge it for want of a reason to declare war at a time of extreme public feelings for
isolationism?

Is it some sort of behind the scenes manipulation of public sentiment? If that is it, then it would modify my scepticism.

Well of course, it was at least that much - an obvious false-flag. I was referring more to the exact details. And the key to a good false-flag is ensuring that the real truth is just too unbelievable to accept even if heard from the one who did it. The magician explains his magic trick and still isn't believed (yet in this case, still having nothing at all to do with space aliens). And the key to that key is utilizing things of which people are not aware exist at all and would not even consider without a great deal of additional education. And that is what makes real events impossible to believe and thus excused by suspicions and false accusations (aka "Satanism") = "False-Flag".
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:04 pm

"Nine Eleven" sounds almost like "Two Twenty-Seven".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:48 pm

James S Saint wrote:
LaughingMan wrote:Of course keep in mind, A.I. could inherit all of humanity's weaknesses ...

No, it doesn't.

James S Saint wrote:
LaughingMan wrote:Why not?

Because they are designed with an awareness of such weaknesses. They design things to ensure their power over people. They don't design them to be weak in the same ways as people.

James S Saint wrote:Humans understand many thing that are wrong with themselves, their limitations. But they cannot so easily merely reprogram around a deficiency like they can with machines. It is merely due to the convenience of being able to try something, turn it off, reprogram, and try again as often as they wish until they get it superior to anything that humans could do themselves.

And interestingly, they are already getting other machines to help figure out how to make each machine better than humans could have made it. It very seriously isn't anywhere near as difficult as they make it appear. They just don't want to frighten too many people before it is too late.

James S Saint wrote:The ethical use of machines is for them to be used only to assist a person (individually) with their true life functions without denying anyone else's, similar to using a car without preventing people from walking.

To the current governance, that is not an acceptable restriction. They have every intention to use machines to deny as many other lives as possible from actually living (making one's own truly informed decisions and being able to carry them out). The government is not supposed to have a life of its own.

"Government is important. People are not." That is exactly what is oppressing people today, nothing else. And that is exactly what "intelligent robots" are to be used for. Intelligent robots can govern with or without people. And without people is far easier and more efficient. If the computer can fly the plane, the only need for a human "pilot" is to pacify the passengers, just like being the President of a country.

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Amorphos wrote:Personally i think an AI would make a perfect partner, and an inspiring journey.

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And that is why the game for Man is already over.

James S Saint wrote:Intelligent machines have been solving problems that humans haven't been able to solve for decades. An intelligent android is needed to police the population; see more, react faster, stronger, and more intelligently than humans, else the humans might escape.

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objet petit a wrote:@ James: You do not seriously want this, right?

I abandoned designing intelligent machines in favor of teaching/training intelligence in humans back in the 80's because I saw how very seriously deadly and maniacal the artificial intelligence endeavor was going to become when I realized how easy it was to cause machines to become truly emotional.

James S Saint wrote:Samsung televisions can already recognize the people in a room. They even know when the person is watching the screen and which portion of the screen (for further psychological conditioning of the populous). One of the cell phones is similar. It knows when you are looking at it or elsewhere. It can identify you and most of the population behind you (from their voice if not image).

The humans are the only species that is capable of designing their own replacement as a species and thus their own extinction.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:57 pm

Actually Arminius, this post belongs on this thread too:

I think this video speaks for itself on this issue, especially concerning the intent that an Internet AI does the baby sitting and verbal programming of the child for the parents .. all as merely a progressive convenience of course.


The reprogramming of a society begins with the mid-wives and nannies/media (whether human or machine).
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From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Historyboy » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:26 am

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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Moreno » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:38 am

James S Saint wrote:
LaughingMan wrote:Why not?


Because they are designed with an awareness of such weaknesses. They design things to ensure their power over people. They don't design them to be weak in the same ways as people.
But humans make design errors - often based on the randomness created by overconfidence - despite their intention to eliminate weaknesses they may perpetuate some, they may create new ones. Also the values they have about what is good may very well include weaknesses. You can see this in how even very smart people try to mold their own characters or their children's characters. They Think have more X is good and less Y is good and these ideas, despite their lofty intentions and being applied by smart people often lead to really fucked up people. There is no reason to Believe this cannot happen with AIs. In fact I Think it is almost inevitable. Despite what we are Learning about the role of emotions in human intelligence - such as that they are necessary for intelligence - I would guess that a lot of the AI will consider emotions superfluous, being Cold fish themselves, they Think what the World needs are some really high powered genius Cold fish to run things.

Head for the Woods, I say, not that this will save you for long.

By the way, I am not saying that human weaknesses must be present, and unlike the optimists here I do not think that their presence would be any protection. I just see Cane Toad type phenomena in these kinds of things. And I doubt the various persons who thought Cane Toads were a solution realized how much the Cane Toads would parallel homo sapien weaknesses.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:05 pm

Moreno wrote:But humans make design errors - often based on the randomness created by overconfidence - despite their intention to eliminate weaknesses they may perpetuate some, they may create new ones.

That is why they have contests with many people participating, such that they can weed out the best end result despite anyone's theory of what should have been best. Then each year, everyone bases their next shot on the best of the previous year so as to improve it even further.

Moreno wrote: Also the values they have about what is good may very well include weaknesses. You can see this in how even very smart people try to mold their own characters or their children's characters. They Think have more X is good and less Y is good and these ideas, despite their lofty intentions and being applied by smart people often lead to really fucked up people. There is no reason to Believe this cannot happen with AIs.

Except that unlike with children, AI's can be reprogrammed when an error is discovered .. over and over until no error is found. And also, unlike children, those running the competition determine what is "best", not the "parents". Those running the competition are interested in controlling the population and little else. Thus what is "best" is what most effectively allows that end result.

Moreno wrote: In fact I Think it is almost inevitable. Despite what we are Learning about the role of emotions in human intelligence - such as that they are necessary for intelligence - I would guess that a lot of the AI will consider emotions superfluous, being Cold fish themselves, they Think what the World needs are some really high powered genius Cold fish to run things.

Head for the Woods, I say, not that this will save you for long.

By the way, I am not saying that human weaknesses must be present, and unlike the optimists here I do not think that their presence would be any protection. I just see Cane Toad type phenomena in these kinds of things. And I doubt the various persons who thought Cane Toads were a solution realized how much the Cane Toads would parallel homo sapien weaknesses.

I grant you that there is a whole lot of stupidity involved in the process. And that is the actual problem. Machines are already not a little but rather 100 times more capable at everything than homosapian. So when they get designed a little incorrectly, they very, very quickly take a 100 fold advantage toward doing the wrong thing. The stupidity continues in that people always presume that they can spot what that wrong thing is when it happens. The fact is that the wrong thing is far too sophisticated and subtle for people to spot. An example is the baby-sitting robots introduced just last year that allowed the internet to not merely carry on conversations with infants, but also broadcast the infants situation throughout the internet: every sound in the house, every words spoken, video of every room, and even naked mommy. The little robots were parent accepted spies allowed to infiltrate as many homes as possible. The parents didn't see any harm in the little robots .. until they discovered that people were watching the every move and broadcasting the videos as well as preaching to the infants whatever some hacker chose to preach rather than what the sage internet system babysitter was supposed to program into their children.

People absolutely insist on doing the worst thing possible before yielding to any wisdom. The worst thing possible when it comes to beings 100 time more talented than you in every respect is to create them.
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From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Mithus » Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:52 pm

You wrote about the "Angel Network":
James S Saint wrote: The wisdom of the net is to yield all abstract wisdoms to all inquiring, but never any specifics historical events: "if one does this while in this situation, that will happen". The net does not tell anyone what to eat (for example). It only tells of homosapian needs and reactions under specific situations. It tells of what happen when you do or do not have an arbitrator in various situations. It does not tell you to go get one.


I'm not sure if I understand the reason, why the Net doesn't tell about any specific historical events. Is it in order to avoid influencing the group in their decisions by giving pure information/wisdom without examples of what has happened in the past, when those information was used in specific situations?
Hard to understand for somebody who learned already as a schoolkid how important it would be to learn from history, in order to prevent the recurrence of certain situations.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:32 am

Mithus wrote:You wrote about the "Angel Network":
James S Saint wrote: The wisdom of the net is to yield all abstract wisdoms to all inquiring, but never any specifics historical events: "if one does this while in this situation, that will happen". The net does not tell anyone what to eat (for example). It only tells of homosapian needs and reactions under specific situations. It tells of what happen when you do or do not have an arbitrator in various situations. It does not tell you to go get one.


I'm not sure if I understand the reason, why the Net doesn't tell about any specific historical events. Is it in order to avoid influencing the group in their decisions by giving pure information/wisdom without examples of what has happened in the past, when those information was used in specific situations?
Hard to understand for somebody who learned already as a schoolkid how important it would be to learn from history, in order to prevent the recurrence of certain situations.

Sorry, I have been a bit busy lately (holidays n all).

The short answer - "It cannot lie".

All material observations, most especially historical world "facts", have a good deal of deception involved, when not entirely fictitious. Even if he tried, Man couldn't document the real truth concerning any actual event other than to merely name it. And even by that act, create deception. The world is festering in lies because people from top to bottom use lies in an effort to avoid and divert reality ("Adham hiding from God"). When they are not lying to others, they are lying to themselves. To live without deception is to be "holy". How many holy people do you know?

But unlike historically documented events and testimonies, abstract notions can be verified with certainty. Imagine if you were taught mathematics only by historically recorded events? How could you ever learn to add past 3? How did all of those people stem from "Adam and Eve"? All histories are myths, greatly distorted truths. None of them truly add up. But abstract quantities, "numbers", can easily be verified and corrected if misrepresented, lied about. Logic never, ever lies. And when misrepresented or misunderstood, it can always be straightened back out .. eventually. Such is not true with observations.

Who really saw what? Who really did what? Why? Where? Such questions are always argued about and never resolved. Suspicions and distrust escalate. Secret orders are formed. Hidden manipulation becomes the only means of survival and power. And all the while, what is the standard with which to determine truth? Logic - that which can never be wrong, although still misunderstood and thus always being verified.

And beyond all of the temptations to further deception for sake of power, is the issue of the freedom from presumptuous, naive, and judgmental people. Who did what is never as important as what needs doing next. The past is never as important as the future. Who is telling you about the past? Who is trying to influence your future by painting a picture for you to match their own interests? Just about everyone with any influence who wants to keep it. And just about everyone without significant influence who wants to gain it. It is easy to lie about the past .. not so easy to lie about logic.

Strategies, "angels", can be sorted and proven to be "good or bad" (given a particular use for them). Such is the very make of wisdom. "Good angels are used throughout heaven. Bad angels (ideas) are throughout hell." But everyone is responsible for making their own little spot of heaven. And that means that they need access to the "angels". What they don't need is the temptations of presumption brought on by partial information, layered upon partial deception, layered upon out and out lies .. regardless of the sources: "Place no temptation before them."

The Angel Network is about Logic, Mathematics, Reasoning, and Real hardcore Science. It is of little interest to most people. The point of the Net is to ensure that everyone has access if they are interested and to ensure that every strategy against a person has an equal strategy available for him. When everyone knows all of the same strategies, it becomes difficult for people to dominate each other. Instead it becomes clear WHY things need to be done, not merely that someone out there demands it because once long ago someone did something bad and therefore no one can be allowed to do this or that forever more .. by force (that "bad thing" that someone did).

The Angel Network is about possibilities and probabilities in abstract form. It is not about what everyone must do because of what someone did, regardless of their personal, immediate situation. That is not to say that historically recorded events are to be ignored. Such information has its place. But not distributed throughout a presumptuous and information overloaded world of crazed apes.

There are smaller, shorter range networks for more physically and directly related concerns. The Angel Network is for the "chess players". The other networks are for the "doers".

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Look at your body. What does your finger know about, or care about your elbow? What does your nose care about the smell of your pancreas? Every human cell has need to know of its immediate surroundings .. for an unavoidable reason, not merely by accident. But if every cell had to know about the good or bad of every other cell, or even if any one part of the body had to know about all other parts, the human body would never survive.

The segregation of information is what allows complex systems to thrive. But there are various types of information that must be segregated differently. SAM Coops allow for the great amount of relevant information to every individual considering the limits of everyone involved.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
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From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:02 am

James S Saint wrote:Actually Arminius, this post belongs on this thread too:

I think this video speaks for itself on this issue, especially concerning the intent that an Internet AI does the baby sitting and verbal programming of the child for the parents .. all as merely a progressive convenience of course.


The reprogramming of a society begins with the mid-wives and nannies/media (whether human or machine).

Yes. Reprogramming always starts with education because the young people are the most influenceable people.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:17 am

Mithus wrote:Hard to understand for somebody who learned already as a schoolkid how important it would be to learn from history, in order to prevent the recurrence of certain situations.

There is also a great interest in the prevention of learning from history.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:25 pm

Arminius wrote:
Mithus wrote:Hard to understand for somebody who learned already as a schoolkid how important it would be to learn from history, in order to prevent the recurrence of certain situations.

There is also a great interest in the prevention of learning from history.

They can't rewrite it if people keep learning it.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
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From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:44 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Arminius wrote:
Mithus wrote:Hard to understand for somebody who learned already as a schoolkid how important it would be to learn from history, in order to prevent the recurrence of certain situations.

There is also a great interest in the prevention of learning from history.

They can't rewrite it if people keep learning it.

Yes, of course, that is also true, but the accent in your sentence is on the word "if", because the problem is that the preventors of learning from history and the keepers of learnig from history have one point where they agree, and the preventors have more power.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Moreno » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:34 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Arminius wrote:
Mithus wrote:Hard to understand for somebody who learned already as a schoolkid how important it would be to learn from history, in order to prevent the recurrence of certain situations.

There is also a great interest in the prevention of learning from history.

They can't rewrite it if people keep learning it.
They can pick away at it. Further they can cut down on the time and energy you have to learn history, but creating work scarcity and using effectivity programs at work to keep you stressed and paniced even after you get home and put your feet and do not crack that history book or haven't the energy to do it with much critical intelligence.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:05 pm

Fact is that history is not the same as mathematics. And fact is also that the winner writes the history. The winner dictates, because the winner has the power, the victor's justice and so on.

Only those who can and do keep history in mind and keep learning from history are capable of resisting the lies about history.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:43 pm

James S Saint wrote:The Angel Network is about Logic, Mathematics, Reasoning, and Real hardcore Science. It is of little interest to most people. The point of the Net is to ensure that everyone has access if they are interested and to ensure that every strategy against a person has an equal strategy available for him. When everyone knows all of the same strategies, it becomes difficult for people to dominate each other. Instead it becomes clear WHY things need to be done, not merely that someone out there demands it because once long ago someone did something bad and therefore no one can be allowed to do this or that forever more .. by force (that "bad thing" that someone did).


I think we should ban tampons, because a 14 year old girl died from leaving a tampon in too long. Tampons are a threat against civilization, thus we should ban them. We should also ban hurricanes too, because they kill a lot of people and damage a lot of property. Hurricanes are not good for the economy. This is a daycare, a babysitting game, and if one person does a bad thing, we all have to be punished, laws have to be changed, to teach us all a lesson and keep us safe. Soda bottles cause strife in the village and cause people to make war and be jealous, thus we should ban glass soda bottles, and switch to plastic, as it is more safe and harmonious with the village.

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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:49 pm

When they are not lying to others, they are lying to themselves. To live without deception is to be "holy". How many holy people do you know?


Holiness seems to be a feminine feeling, guilt remorse, ethics and pleasure, are all feminine feelings. Morality and ethics is feminine. But women are liars, often indifferent to trouble, so how can they be holy? Children do not seem to be inherent liars, only women.

I suppose the key to this is androgeny, combining the logic and truth of man, with the holiness of a child.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:04 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
When they are not lying to others, they are lying to themselves. To live without deception is to be "holy". How many holy people do you know?


Holiness seems to be a feminine feeling, guilt remorse, ethics and pleasure, are all feminine feelings. Morality and ethics is feminine.

Not to derail, but what do you imagine to be a "masculine feeling"?
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From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:01 am

Back to the topic by looking at the following picture:

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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Moreno » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:25 pm

Arminius wrote:Back to the topic by looking at the following picture:

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What do you think?
I think there will be smiling machines. I also think that the replacement will not be so one for one. Portions of jobs will be taken over, so employed humans will be fewer. This is happening in professional jobs also. But since it will not come soon that a HR manager is completely replaced, like we fire Hans and put C3PO at his desk, people will not realize that because many facets of HR work are already being taken over, such that companies can make a number of employees redundant in those departments, it is actually happening now, not in some more distant future when AI really comes into play. We already have smart enough machines to whittle down departments.

This is all being fussy, but I think that the skeptics see an image like that and think...oh, that's not happening, when in fact it has been happening for a while and not just on assembly lines in, say, Japan, but in white collar jobs also and all over the world.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Arminius » Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:24 pm

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Arminius wrote:Back to the topic by looking at the following picture:

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What do you think?
I think there will be smiling machines.

Smiling machines? Okay, here they are:

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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:08 pm

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When they are not lying to others, they are lying to themselves. To live without deception is to be "holy". How many holy people do you know?


Holiness seems to be a feminine feeling, guilt remorse, ethics and pleasure, are all feminine feelings. Morality and ethics is feminine.

Not to derail, but what do you imagine to be a "masculine feeling"?


masculine feeling is building things with zero regard for polishing, liking violence, honest violence, noble fights, balanced confrontations.

feminine feeling is polishing things, lazily and timidly refining structure, sadistic violence, where the opponent is helpless, or they themselves are helpless.
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby James S Saint » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:34 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:masculine feeling is building things with zero regard for polishing, liking violence, honest violence, noble fights, balanced confrontations.

feminine feeling is polishing things, lazily and timidly refining structure, sadistic violence, where the opponent is helpless, or they themselves are helpless.

So you are speaking of masculine courage vs feminine repressed, opportunistic anger.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
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From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:47 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:masculine feeling is building things with zero regard for polishing, liking violence, honest violence, noble fights, balanced confrontations.

feminine feeling is polishing things, lazily and timidly refining structure, sadistic violence, where the opponent is helpless, or they themselves are helpless.

So you are speaking of masculine courage vs feminine repressed, opportunistic anger.


Nein. I am referring to the masculine desire to fight, the desire for fair and honest combat, a fair fight, and a challenge, a duel, or a battle of teams.

The feminine desire I refer to is the sadistic female intent, witchery, taking pleasure at either her victims pain, or taking pleasure at her own pain. Open you eyes, my brother, for these women lurk in the shadows, unknown to you.
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