Should I put the name „Moreno“ into the column in which the name „Obe“ is and the name „Obe“ into the column in which the name „Moreno“ is?

Moreno wrote:So that was me not granting that this obsolescence is real. I am not simply an engineering event. Not remotely. Someone may Think of me that way and may label me obsolete, but that is subjective.
obe wrote:maybe the confusion surrounds the meaning of "obsolescence". A person may not be obsolete as a machine would, his obsolescence may be a factor of being displaced, made irrelevant in a particular or general context.
To whom?Arminius wrote:Moreno wrote:So that was me not granting that this obsolescence is real. I am not simply an engineering event. Not remotely. Someone may Think of me that way and may label me obsolete, but that is subjective.
If not "someone", but many people as a majority think of you that way and label you obsolete, what would you say then?
Moreno wrote:To whom?Arminius wrote:Moreno wrote:So that was me not granting that this obsolescence is real. I am not simply an engineering event. Not remotely. Someone may Think of me that way and may label me obsolete, but that is subjective.
If not "someone", but many people as a majority think of you that way and label you obsolete, what would you say then?
I mean, in a sense this is a problem. That doesn't mean I am obsolete. I mean a majority seems to Think owning the right brand of _______________ makes them more intereting, cool, sexy, successful, important and even, amazingly, individual. That doesn't mean that is true in any objective sense.
Anyone saying that we, homo sapians, are about to become obsolete, pretty much as to be a theist. I mean how would they know what is valuable ultimately. So I probed his post to see - is this person going to actually say there are objective values. My guess is this does not fit well with his system. If it does, however, then we have a theist or some other person with objective values, who Thinks that Machines can replace all of value even in himself and his kids. That's a very odd theist.
James S Saint wrote:As long as the world is being designed and redesigned, people are inherently creating obsolescence of people (depopulation).
And that was merely my answer...though perhaps i did read something into it that was not there.Arminius wrote:It was merely a question, Moreno.
I still want to ask 'obsolete to whom'? or for whom? Not even getting into the issue of humans being look at only as means (again, by whom?)Not the only one, but at least one of the main reasons why human beings become obsolete are e.g those human beings who are saying that human beings do not become obsolete. The other human beings are either a minority which wants human beings to become obsolte or a majority which do not wants human beings to become obsolete.
James S Saint wrote:As long as the world is being designed and redesigned, people are inherently creating obsolescence of people (depopulation).
The population in the West is still going up.Arminius wrote:Depopulation takes place in the area of the Western culture and in some other areas, but not in Africa, in Arabia and some other areas. So the number of the world population is currently still high, although it has been sinking. So the number of the world population will sooner or later also be as low as the number of the Western population. It is merely a question of time, when the world depopulation will be noticeable even for those who are curently unable to notice it.
Depopulation policy refers currently to the Western population, but will also refer to the world population as soon as possible.
Moreno wrote:The population in the West is still going up.Arminius wrote:Depopulation takes place in the area of the Western culture and in some other areas, but not in Africa, in Arabia and some other areas. So the number of the world population is currently still high, although it has been sinking. So the number of the world population will sooner or later also be as low as the number of the Western population. It is merely a question of time, when the world depopulation will be noticeable even for those who are curently unable to notice it.
Depopulation policy refers currently to the Western population, but will also refer to the world population as soon as possible.
http://www.census.gov/popclock/ It may be going up slower than it was, but it is still going up.
Well, they were here first as far as the Americas. I also do not think you are correct either about it just being the US or that the only increase is latin americans coming into the US. Do you have some source for this?Arminius wrote:Moreno wrote:The population in the West is still going up.Arminius wrote:Depopulation takes place in the area of the Western culture and in some other areas, but not in Africa, in Arabia and some other areas. So the number of the world population is currently still high, although it has been sinking. So the number of the world population will sooner or later also be as low as the number of the Western population. It is merely a question of time, when the world depopulation will be noticeable even for those who are curently unable to notice it.
Depopulation policy refers currently to the Western population, but will also refer to the world population as soon as possible.
http://www.census.gov/popclock/ It may be going up slower than it was, but it is still going up.
The US population is not the whole Western population, Moreno. And do you know where those people are who let the current US population grow?
Those people are Latin American aboriginals. And do Latin American aboriginals really belong to the Western population?
Moreno wrote:Well, they were here first as far as the Americas. I also do not think you are correct either about it just being the US or that the only increase is latin americans coming into the US. Do you have some source for this?
Moreno wrote:I don't give a fuck.
Moreno wrote:Plastic people.
Arminius wrote:I don't give a fuck.
OH, but I answered your question.Okay, but that was not my question.
Moreno wrote:Plastic people.
phyllo wrote:Robocop is a cyborg and he destroys the robots.
IOW, the human is superior to the mechanical.
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