Tyler Durden wrote:Moral nihilism should be embraced[.]
Sauwelios wrote:Tyler Durden wrote:Moral nihilism should be embraced[.]
Tyler Durden wrote:Nietzsche it is said was just trying to create a new morality or ethos of what he saw as the deterioration of the current ones.
His fatal flaw and error you see is that once the genie comes out of the bottle there is no way to bring it back inside again.
Once moral nihilism is realized all re-emergences of so called morality or ethics are stopped dead in their tracks. They can be nothing more.
Once moral and ethical systems deteriorate breaking down altogether there is no way to recover them or make an entirely new set.
For this moral nihilism is inescapable, unavoidable, and inevitable.
His fears of moral nihilism and trying to overcome them were flawed. Moral nihilism should be embraced instead.
There is nothing to be feared or overcomed. There is only the embrace of moral nihilism which is the natural expression of this existence.
Concerning the slaves of the world they also will eventually come to realise moral nihilism as there will come a time where the irrelevancy of morality, ethics, law, and authority will be finally exposed in plain sight everywhere.
When that happens a new perception will emerge and it shall be do whatever thou shall will where all imposed limitations or interventions will be no more.
Creative destruction then will be prevalent once again worldwide. More importantly the natural expression of anarchy will find itself prevalent around the world once again.
Sure, there will always be those who seek to have the order and rules over others but once moral nihilism removes the carrot and stick of morality out of their arsenal their ability to control others will forever be diminished never to be returned ever again. Moral nihilism in this regard becomes a double edged blade.
Tyler Durden wrote:Nietzsche it is said was just trying to create a new morality or ethos of what he saw as the deterioration of the current ones.
His fatal flaw and error you see is that once the genie comes out of the bottle there is no way to bring it back inside again.
Once moral nihilism is realized all re-emergences of so called morality or ethics are stopped dead in their tracks. They can be nothing more.
Once moral and ethical systems deteriorate breaking down altogether there is no way to recover them or make an entirely new set.
For this moral nihilism is inescapable, unavoidable, and inevitable.
His fears of moral nihilism and trying to overcome them were flawed. Moral nihilism should be embraced instead.
There is nothing to be feared or overcomed. There is only the embrace of moral nihilism which is the natural expression of this existence.
Concerning the slaves of the world they also will eventually come to realise moral nihilism as there will come a time where the irrelevancy of morality, ethics, law, and authority will be finally exposed in plain sight everywhere.
When that happens a new perception will emerge and it shall be do whatever thou shall will where all imposed limitations or interventions will be no more.
Creative destruction then will be prevalent once again worldwide. More importantly the natural expression of anarchy will find itself prevalent around the world once again.
Sure, there will always be those who seek to have the order and rules over others but once moral nihilism removes the carrot and stick of morality out of their arsenal their ability to control others will forever be diminished never to be returned ever again. Moral nihilism in this regard becomes a double edged blade.
Tyler Durden wrote:Sauwelios wrote:Tyler Durden wrote:Moral nihilism should be embraced[.]
And?
MechanicalMonster wrote:Some thinkers are only seeking a philosophical platform on which to kill themselves in peace.
One must therefore wonder about the kinds of lives these thinkers must lead.
MechanicalMonster wrote:You know I was talking about you, right?
Tyler Durden wrote:Nietzsche it is said was just trying to create a new morality or ethos of what he saw as the deterioration of the current ones.
His fatal flaw and error you see is that once the genie comes out of the bottle there is no way to bring it back inside again.
Once moral nihilism is realized all re-emergences of so called morality or ethics are stopped dead in their tracks. They can be nothing more.
Once moral and ethical systems deteriorate breaking down altogether there is no way to recover them or make an entirely new set.
For this moral nihilism is inescapable, unavoidable, and inevitable.
His fears of moral nihilism and trying to overcome them were flawed. Moral nihilism should be embraced instead.
There is nothing to be feared or overcomed. There is only the embrace of moral nihilism which is the natural expression of this existence.
Concerning the slaves of the world they also will eventually come to realise moral nihilism as there will come a time where the irrelevancy of morality, ethics, law, and authority will be finally exposed in plain sight everywhere.
When that happens a new perception will emerge and it shall be do whatever thou shall will where all imposed limitations or interventions will be no more.
Creative destruction then will be prevalent once again worldwide. More importantly the natural expression of anarchy will find itself prevalent around the world once again.
Sure, there will always be those who seek to have the order and rules over others but once moral nihilism removes the carrot and stick of morality out of their arsenal their ability to control others will forever be diminished never to be returned ever again. Moral nihilism in this regard becomes a double edged blade.
Tyler Durden wrote:By that sort of thinking there is no reason to be logical, rational, or above reproach on anything.
Still that sort of thinking does not negate what I have said whatsoever.
That still flies in the face of do whatever thou shall will.
The end result is still nonetheless moral nihilism and would even complement moral scepticism rather nicely.
Sure, there will always be those who seek to have the order and rules over others but once moral nihilism removes the carrot and stick of morality out of their arsenal their ability to control others will forever be diminished never to be returned ever again.
Well, by that sort of thinking--i.e., morally nihilistic thinking--, it's not true that moral nihilism should be embraced, as there _are_ no shoulds or should-nots.
If there is no reason to be truthful, why should people not start believing in imaginary carrots and sticks again?
Tyler Durden wrote:Well, by that sort of thinking--i.e., morally nihilistic thinking--, it's not true that moral nihilism should be embraced, as there _are_ no shoulds or should-nots.
All of that is an extrapolation of moral nihilism not against it.
If there is no reason to be truthful, why should people not start believing in imaginary carrots and sticks again?
Once the transparency of the fraud is exposed there is no going back to it again. Mental adaptation and such.
We don't get fooled again.
The collective consciousness begins to take note.
Tyler Durden wrote:History often enough does repeat itself but there is several transformations also to be of note.
If the general population comes to a conclusion that they've been conditioned to believe in mass delusion all these thousands of years in what is described as civilization we are looking at a major transformation and not some repeat of business as usual.
I believe this awakened collective consciousness is very much possible.
I'm not suggesting some sort of positive collective consciousness either but one of eternal rebellion and defiance where moral nihilism will become dominantly paramount.
Tyler Durden wrote:Nietzsche it is said was just trying to create a new morality or ethos of what he saw as the deterioration of the current ones.
His fatal flaw and error you see is that once the genie comes out of the bottle there is no way to bring it back inside again.
Tyler Durden wrote:His fears of moral nihilism and trying to overcome them were flawed.
obe wrote:He really hasn't any entitlement to will any subjective morality, either.
When you first set out in philosophy, did you ever have dreams and hopes, ambitions and desires, a sense of beauty in studying the unknown and coming into a better working knowledge of the universe?
Why has it, after reading some dead Prussian, philosophy has become nothing but one short, meaningless narrow road to murder and suicide, with commentary?
All Nietzscheans are addicted to suicide. Knock it off or get on with it, pick a date when you all want to do it, and leave the living to their own devices.
Impossible to imagine a more dreary and worthless philosophy where everyone either wants to die or enslave and whip one another.... just.... come on, its clearly a lunatic religion, right up there with the Heaven's Gate Cult.
Go ride a bicycle, and eat some icecreme in the park, play with a puppy..... the puppy knows better than to do this to itself, let it rub off on you a bit.
No more suiciding dammit. If you suicide, we will jail you, and you'll pay a fine, and do community service after. Playing with a puppy sounds alot better now, doesn't it?
Contra-Nietzsche wrote:All Nietzscheans are addicted to suicide.
Contra-Nietzsche wrote:The most pathetic people I know in philosophy are Nietzschean. They are all sad, pathetic little creatures.
Gib wrote:Was Nietzsche a panpsychic?
James S Saint wrote:Oh... I thought he was asking if Nietzsche was a "pan-psychotic"...![]()
Contra-Nietzsche wrote:A Pan-Psychotic Libertine of de Sade's tradition.
Wasn't what the op wanted, but it most certainly fits.
Tyler Durden wrote:His fears of moral nihilism and trying to overcome them were flawed.
Existenz41 wrote:obe wrote:He really hasn't any entitlement to will any subjective morality, either.
Why not?
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