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[size=120]A) Language b[/b] in general and b[/b] in particular.

B) Language development b[/b] in general and b[/b] in particular.

C) Language acquisition b[/b] in general and b[/b] in particular.

D) Human language b[/b] in general and b[/b] in particular.

E) Human language development within b[/b] evolution and b[/b] history (especially of the different cultures).

F) Human language acquisition relating to the b[/b] first language and b[/b] second (foreign) language(s).

G) Future of language b[/b].[/size]

Explanation:

Aa) What language in general and actually means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.
Ab) What language in particular means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.
Ba) What language development in general and actually means,also and especially according to philosophy / science.
Bb) What language development in particular means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.
Ca) What language acquisition in general and actually means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.
Cb) What language acquisition in particular means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.
Da) What human language in general and actually means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.
Db) What human language in particular means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.
Ea) What human language development within evolution means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.
Eb) What human language development within history means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.
Fa) What human language acquisition relating to the first language means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.
Fb) What human language acquisition relating to the second (foreign) language(s) means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.
G) What the future of language means, also and especially according to philosophy / science.

So A), B), C) refer to the language in general and in particular, D), E), F) refer to human language (what we usually mean when we say “language”) as well in general and in particular as within evolution and history, and F) refers again to the language in general and in particular.

For example: A (Aa and Ab) and B (Ba and Bb).

According to A) and B) the following quoted posts might also give a hint:

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A shocking but wholly revealing and chilling look at the workings of your mind.
This explains much.

Oh, that kid again!

Can you actually nothing but only write nonsense?

For those who don’t want to derail this thread:

Not wanting to derail, but perhaps a little slow, can you explain your language of “S”, “P”, “VP”, “NP”, and so are to represent (preferably in English :wink: )?

Yes, but first I must bring the child to bed. :wink:

“S”, “NP”, “VP”, “PP”, “N”, “V”, “Prep”, “Det”, and others are part of the synatx tree (diagramm, a.k.a. “phrase marker”) which belongs to Chomsky’s “Transformational Generative Grammar” (“TGG”).

S = Sentence
NP = Noun Phrase
VP = Verbal Phrase
PP = Prepositional Phrase
N = Noun
V = Verb
Prep = Preposition
Det = Determiner

The resulting sentence could be: “The dog ate the bone”. Such a tree diagram is also called a phrase marker. They can be represented more conveniently in text form, (though the result is less easy to read); in this format the above sentence would be rendered as:
[S [NP [D The ] [N dog ] ] [VP [V ate ] [NP [D the ] [N bone ] ] ] ]

Philosophically, you don’t have to know the details of Chomsky’s linguistic theory, James. But if you are interested in his linguistic theory in general, in his generative grammar as far as it is interesting for philosophy, and in Chomsky hierarchy which is not only interesting for linguistics but also for mathematics and computer science (cp. machines), then please read at first the follwing article:

That’s SCIENCE, and that’s PHILOSOPHY too!

If you don’t have anything to contribute to a discussion besides snide personal attacks, you’ll find yourself warned and banned fairly quickly on the Philosophy board.

Language is the competence to form infinte linguistic terms with a finite inventory of linguistic forms. It has much to do with thoughts, mentality, conceptions, beliefs, imaginations, conventions, experiences, awareness, knowledge, information, communication … and so on. It is such a complex system that one could say that machines could never reach this high competence that humans have. But it is merely a question of time whether machines will be able to use language like humans do. So when?

Arminius, I think you yourself have something to learn about language.

Really? If so, then: why do you think so? And b.t.w.: why are you a crack dealer?

Regarding your meme, I think it’s a fair point: gotta learn to speak before you can talk. But reading your work is like trying to understand a computer program. [EDIT: entirely] tedious; a real master of language knows better. And I think you can tell why I’m a crack dealer.

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My next-to-last post refers to one of my other threads, namely this one: Will machines completely replace all human beings? It’s an interesting thread. Do you know it?

No, Impious, because I don’t know you.

Check the edit. I usually only post in the off topic section where we keep it all short and sweet, not really my style to mill through sustained pieces.

I guess you mean something like these examples:

Because I do not want to derail my own thread, I link to this post:
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No. Speech is very much more than that.

I agree with the above but
note the difference in views between Chomsky and George Lakoff & Johnson.

Chomsky’s theory assumed that the structure of language is “autonomous” — independent of meaning and communication. In 1963, George stumbled upon the first of hundreds of counterexamples.
georgelakoff.com/press/academic-biography/

In the topic of language we need to take into account the Broca’s area within the brain, its development and maintenance.

Like any other mental fields, the theory and philosophy of language should be presented within a systematic framework but not to the extent of being too pedantic and dogmatic.

I know Chomsky’s language theory very well, because I have studied linguistics as well. Philosophically, Chomsky is influenced by the German philosophers Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz and Wilhelm von Humboldt.

Do you know Daniel L. Everett?

The newest “alternative” to Chomsky?

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See also:

No.

There is no native morality but a native system of values. Babies do not have morality; morality requires that the child can understand most of the language of those who have already morality. The language of those who have already morality leads to the understanding of morality, to a consciousness of morality, ethics, philosophy of law, … and so on. It is a question of a language-dependent education. A baby understands baby talk and merely a very, very little of the language of those who have already morality; so a baby is not able to understand enough of the language with morality, thus a baby is not able to understand morality.

A baby has values, is able to value; but a baby has no morality, is not able to judge morally.

Please, do not confuse morality with values, norms, rules, laws.