The Elements Fire, Earth, Air, Water.

Wales has the right smell.

Humans do not conform to climite types.
Though i’ve lived with seaviews in III1 for most of my life, I would prefer somewhere on the warmer side of of that zone. However there is the problem of other people.

Ideally I’d live on a water planet, where the water has a constant termperature of a warm bath. I’ll I would need is somewhere to rest my book and my neck as I float and read.
Obviously a matter transmitter would be needed to transport me back to somewhere interesting from time to time, such as the theatre.

Mumbo Jumbo.

Sorry Dan. I have PTSD from Tibetan training.

Let me explain more…

I hate when people try to patent colors.

Let me explain…

You know Tibetan (Windhorse) Prayer Flags? 5 colors?

Ok, so here’s the deal. They all stand for an element.

Then they have training called maitri space awareness … every time you see a color it corresponds to the element in their prayer flags, and you’re always supposed to say shit like “ooh, I just saw yellow, that means the earth is here”

I think that shit is evil as fuck.

That’s why I was bothered by this thread.

There (fortunately for me) 9 states of matter and they don’t correspond to colors.

That’s why I called this thread bullshit. Although to be perfectly honest, from your point of view, I’ve seen worse threads.

I’m just debunking it.

You seem to confuse the thread with yourself and with your own evaluation of certain important things in life.

I am a dinosaur? No. If you already want to compare me with an animal that was very successful and still became extinct, then please compare me with a pterosaur, because I like flying, because I like dancing, and I feel like a hovering animal or angel in the air or in the water when I dance. Maybe you can also hover in the earth, but earth is denser than water, much denser than air, and even much denser than fire.

FS.pngI do not need drugs, I need music - for flying and hovering in the air or swimming and hovering in the water. :-({|= :angelic-flying:

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See, when you get up in the morning thinking that you are going to go to the bakery because you live in an universe where there is also the element plasma, then your thinking is problematic: You have overstepped the mark, generalized so much and moved so far away from where you actually live. The thought of the universe and plasma does not help you in the concrete context of your everyday life.

Bring it down to earth!

We live here on our planet. I would say that the solar system is the natural environment for us humans in the widest sense, but in the narrower sense rather the planet Earth is the environment for us humans. We humans don’t have an environment like the other creatures, but we have the world (as environment). Whether this is good or not, is relatively irrelevant, if one is busy with the everyday worries, caring and nursing and so on (this also applies the constant lying, cheating, vaccinating, getting ill, dying).

But the actual or everyday environment is our homeland, our home, the area where we feel comfortable. I, for example, feel most comfortable where the four “classical” elements occur in roughly equal measure, and that is the case in the areas III 1, III 2, III 3 and III 4 indicated in the map.

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Thank you, Dan~. Where do you live or/and like to live? Do you like it hot or cold, dry or wet? Which of the “classical” elements do you prefer? Or do you feel (like I do) most comfortable where the four “classical” elements occur in roughly equal measure?

For example Europe, particularly between 60th and 45th degrees north latitude and 10th degrees west and 20th degrees east longitude or, more climatologically said, in west-east direction between the atlantic climate and the western continental climate and in north-south direction between the south norwegian alpine and south swedish boreal climate (in each case inclusive) and the alpine climate (inclusive) or even a bit further to the south:


That’s a very good place to live: not too hot, not too cold (but relatively cold, let’s say: moderate), not too dry, not too wet (but relatively wet, let’s say: moisty). Having moderate summers and moderate winters but still real seasons. That’s fine. What I would miss at all if I had to live in areas with no or almost no seasons are just the seasons. I like the seasons very much, especially the two that provide the most visible change: spring and autumn.

The climate shapes!

The “classical” elements - fire, earth, air, water - are in our soul.

And again,

This is dinosaur stuff.

Plasma is the state of the sun. We use it in modern televisions.

I’m sorry about your attachment to antiquated thinking (like Tibetans) and I’m just going to debunk it.

Do some research…

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotic_matter

By the way, it doesn’t get more down to earth what the state of the fucking sun is.

These were ignorant people, and I’m debunking this OP.

I did not say that plasma has no effect, but according to habits of life this effect is not elemental (see: element!). In what way does plasma form your habits of life? It is too general and at the same time - scientifically speaking - too much concerned with physical-chemical things. But the classical elements - call them what you like (I find the words “fire”, “earth”, “air” and “water” most suitable for this, although they must not be taken very literally, but more metaphorically) - are something that makes you in your temperament (see temperature), what makes you in your motivation.

I don’t know any “plasmatic” person. Do you know such a person?

If I meant all this scientifically, I would have posted this in the subforum for natural science. I also do not mean it so much spiritually (see the subforum for religion and spirituality), but actually more philosophically, in a sense of existential philosophy, philosophy of life.

Somebody has a “fiery”, “earthy”, “airy”, “watery” element, but not a “plasmatic” one. The plasmatic is too cosmological to be considered as a “classical” element. It has to do with cosmological (physical-chemical) processes in the universe and has so also to do with us in the natural sense, but nothing with the existence of the question where I can get rolls at half past two in the night.

Do you understand? I am not talking about natural things here, or only if they play a role for us in everyday life; I am also not talking about consumer things, because they do not facilitate life as such. I have to master life, to shape it, to lead it, and for this I do not need natural things as such, but only my will to live and my intention to lead my life where I can do it best. I need natural things for my natural part of my life but not for my life as a whole. I have a will to live and my intention to lead my life where I can do it best. I have a body, but even that body is pretty irrelevant when it comes to thoughts, provided I do not keep saying: “ah, I only have these thoughts because I have a body”. Inorganic and even organic things are pretty irrelevant when it comes to thoughts themselves. Conversely, I am not saying that every physicist should consider that all that he does originally sprang from a thought and that this physicist must therefore now be a philosopher or nothing at all. A physicist must be allowed to remain a physicist within a certain framework.This seems to be self-evident to us, but the funny thing is that it does not seem to be self-evident the other way round: I do not have to think about physics all the time when I make a sandwich for my child or wipe the nose.

Yeah, whatever, I’m done with this thread.

People don’t call themselves plasmatic beings because they are retarded. Go for it girl. But don’t think I’m buying this crap while you do it.

He did not debunk anything, only used dirty words and other unobjective words. In any case, he has not used a single objective argument, but only words that reflect his subjective feelings.

Look again:

It is his right to say that he disagrees with something, yes, and I do not dispute that at all. He just has no single objective argument.

He said: “I’m done with this thread”. That’s okay. There are enough ILP threads: Total topics 48142 with total posts 1219687.

Are you as dumb headed as the person in your avatar looks?

LOL, look who’s talking

User avatar Sculptor (PhilosophyNow)

Have you ever considered making objective arguments instead of just attacking other posters personally?

He is incapable of using objective arguments! Moreover, he is very stupid, just illiterate, because he has shown in several threads that he is not capable of reading the texts of other posters. He is also not capable of reading his own texts properly.

But for that, as if he wants to set both off against each other, he uses all the more personal attacks, ad hominems, ugly words and phrases of commustic ideology. And he stalks me. Why does he do all that? Probably because he is jealous of me or the person depicted in the avatar. His case is pathological. He is ill.

He must be a very frustrated person - probably because of his ugliness, as you said, Leyla, or of his illness, his cancer, perhaps because of his childhood or whatever.

One can only feel sorry for him, because he is first and foremost his own victim.

Yes, you are absolutely right, Kathrina. =D>

Someone who wants to insult Kathrina can only be sick in the head. Such a “person” is an imperson. I can only advise this imperson to post in another thread, for instance this one: ““Mental” Illness”. Maybe (or maybe not!) that thread will help the imperson Sculptor.

Where has this Sculptor used a single argument even once? Nowhere!

And why is Sculptor always after Kathrina? Why is he stalking her?

This has only subjective reasons, that is, reasons that have to do with his self. He has too little self-awareness, too little self-confidence, too little trust in other people, and projects this lack onto other people, especially onto those who, in contrast to himself (again: subjective), have a healthy self-awareness, a healthy self-confidence and also trust in other people.

Why does Sculptor post at all? He’s always just frustrated!

There are many of these frustrated people here at ILP. But please: Why don’t they post somewhere else? Nobody forced these sick brains to post here!


And by the way: Personal attacks, especially those involving a poster’s avatar, are prohibited by ILP rules.

Those who start personal attacks, like Sculptor almost always does, must be banned!

Where is the ILP moderation?

It is a fact that trolls like Sculptor and his equals want to destroy every thread they don’t like for purely subjective reasons.

These trolls never use arguments, they only destroy!

I hope that this thread, no matter what subjective “opinions” others have about it, can continue, because it has substance: it connects climatic conditions that unquestionably exist with elements that also unquestionably exist (no matter how old their theory is), in order to find out in which environment someone belongs or thinks to belong.

Sculptor makes intelligent comments in several threads.

Dude, none of us are perfect. I wouldn’t even ban UrWrongx1000

I MIGHT send a small portion of his threads to rant.

Nobody on ILP deserves to be banned now.

The only permaban that I was involved with was a dude who would use the quote function and then type things I never said and debate them!

That’s crazy asshole on a whole ‘nother level!

In my fucking, almost 30 years online, I’d never seen that before …

This group, not so bad.

This group is not so bad, I agree.

The previous group seemed ok too.

Some thinking as you know is brought about through emotional pathways as opposed to rational pathways(I call this rational mismatching) - sometimes people are locked in the emotional zone, so to speak.

When I first arrived here I received this welcome: Welcome to the acid bath.

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I can appreciate this

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I’ve thought a lot about moderation over the years…

Most boards have some type of pit that only registered members can read. This is supposed to discipline them, because people in general want to be read.

ILP has the sandbox though, so I don’t know how important rant is here…

One thing that is important, if someone is acting like an idiot, is for the general public to have access to seeing the train wreck.

Rant for example could be made into a public forum that’s renamed “we think this person in this thread is being a massive idiot and ass (you be the judge).

Something like that.