Schopenhauer is a Dick

No kid, never.

I know you frown on taking Nietzsche dogmatically, but I decided early to cleanse myself of certain things.

I still have pain. Of very many things. But not a single regret.

“Yes, no doubt. ‘female lib’ has been radically destructive of the seductive powers, and with that, of the liberty of the spirit that exists between the sexes…”

Negative ghost rider. The central concerns, complaints and demands of the feminist movement in general are legit, and you’d be hard-pressed or a mysogynist or a hard-pressed mysogynist to argue otherwise. Take equal wages for equal labor, the right to vote, to own property and participate in politics, to control your own body and have an abortion if you choose, etc.

If you couldn’t beat any of these premises - and you caint - the thing that alarms and offends you about it, the ‘movement’, and the people in it, would be a particular experience of the attitudes and behaviors and actions of a ‘feminist’ and not necessarily what she stands for. For all u know, she could be doing it wrong.

What’s appalling has to be context contingent and the WAY the feminist ideas and attitudes present themselves in groups of particular people. Lemme explain an example and show you how it is in fact not leftist thinking that’s offensive, but leftist behavior… behavior that is an expression of a type of people conditioned by, and a product of, that conservative western ethos of individualism and how it plays out in the cultures of class based society. This is the same thing as saying ‘you can’t say these leftists are actually leftists, because they don’t exist in a socialist state’, therefore, they are products of a capitalism/consumerism state and have the habits and attitudes of people living in such a state.

If the premises stand eternal, then any particular attempt to establish them in practice that turns out to be obnoxious and offensive, does not detract from their meaningfulness (the premises). What u have is merely a bad shot at it, or you think it is being done wrongly, etc.

The irony is, that militant female reactionism that turns your stomach belongs to people who have developed their attitudes in a western culture that fosters a sense of entitlement and victimization BY VIRTUE of engendering socioeconomic circumstances that produce it. That’s why them bitches complain so loudly dude. That’s the American way.

Contrarily, if the principles and practices (the women’s rights) were ever realized, u wouldn’t have to witness all the fighting to get there, and those bitches that disgust u would not exist.

They are a figment of ur own imachinations.

The red velvet, indeed. That fucking place we bought it at, amidst the wreckage of street, ice and snow, people wondered, back here, why on the Erf I had gone to such a “seven-ish” place. But its a place of absolute happiness.

The runes, cast of 9 chicken bones in the snow at sunset. One single bindrune, you yelled when it fell in place. I prepared those chicken bones for two days. But the bindrune was containing Hagalaz.

Allfather.

My frozen feet. Inadequate footwear.

Yes, I may need to still do it.

I still have the red velvet, by the way -
and on google street view, you can see one of the cloths with the outside-facing silver Algiz rune on it hanging in the doorway to the balcony.

Oh shit I didn’t even give u an example hold on.

Okay take the ‘me too’ movement. Some of it has to be true, but a lot of it isn’t gonna be true. Those women who are lying, make the movement look malicious and conspiratorial, while the premise - keep ur fuckin hands off me unless I give u per mission to touch me - still stands as solid and as glorious as the day it was conceived.

But amnerika has got all kinds of problems with people vying for attention and publicity because, well, these are the kinds of broke retards and rejects that our economy has created.

Quick question. Do any Chinese TV networks have any equivalents of our Jerry Springer shows?

Nuff said.

Legit has nothing to do with it. Sure it’s legit, that’s why it happened. That doesnt mean it didn’t come at a price.

You think just because a judgment is legit, nothing is lost by executing it?

Morality is expensive.

First of all youre using words like alarmed and offended, which have nothing to do with what I express, which is just the observation that the chemistry between the sexes has been compromised. Im not alarmed by this, im just desirous to restore it.

Second, do you not think that leftist thinking is the cause of leftist behavior?

Okay, so you think you can do it better, I gather -
or you imagine someone might be able to do it better.
Im interested in that. Please, if it is in your power, divulge some… not being sarcastic here.

It is very arguably true that leftism has all kinds of legitimate causes (gods know I worked for such causes for a long time), though it is almost all in extremely bad taste - and whatever is done in bad taste really has no cause, no grounds to exist.

So how to elevate the tastes of leftism? Sort of speaking theoretically here because it’s kind of late in the game.

Youre projecting, I think. Ive not spoken of things turning my stomach, Ive not expressed revolt at leftism or feminism, Ive just observed that chemistry has been lost, and I may perhaps suggest that possibly this chemistry was more valuable than what has been gained. Perhaps Id refrain from that, as Id have to clarify standards for that and its not important enough to do that as it is pointless, as it has already happened. What stands is that such chemistry is valuable and that I want it restored, and what also stands is that this cant happen by a reversing of the emancipation process. Rather, likely, by driving it to and beyond its ultimate consequences. Or maybe theres another way, some way to do with improving tastes, or some way you can eludicade.

Mkay. Ive really no clue what youve wandered into here.

Back to basics; Your man says the point is not to explain the world but to change it. Is it within your power to instigate some kind of change in a direction you find better, or higher, than the current state of affairs?

No. That’s not true either. If the Mother Earth governed everything and wanted sex with me… it could send so much lust into my body that not only could I not resist, it’d also remote control me.

I’m stronger than the earth. So are you, you just don’t know it yet.

You think sex creates unique magic. Spiritually, everything that can be done with sex, can be done without it.

Again, I’m going to tell you this… you’re delusional.

If you don’t agree with the premises of feminism then you’re a misogynist? I think you got it backwards. The most powerful women don’t want equality.


Did you really just call the ‘me too’ movement “glorious”? I thought prison was supposed to make men hard.

And what exactly are women going to do once they reclaim this great sexual power? Women need to reclaim their power for what? Is woman’s greatest power simply in being sexually seductive?

What are you talking about… This is literally how every women thinks… They all instinctively know sex is power… What “hurts” women is the commodification of sex and the hypersexualization agenda which is really just the same thing as desexualization as both lead to numbness. And what is woman really when it comes down to it? A stimulus to more life.

Women don’t have the same selective pressure as men, so they’re not as intelligent.

Men naturally give women no intelligence selective pressure… men especially at peak testosterone will fuck anything that crawls on the earth for no reason.

By doing this, men are doing a disservice to women, because it makes them dumb. By making women dumb, men are doing a disservice to themselves.

Now, because women only fuck players with huge dicks… they are making it so that men have to actually think. Women don’t have to think.

It’s often said that women have to use more strategy than a man. That’s not true.

As I already mentioned, if you are talking about Darwinian selection pressures, such pressures operate on populations of both genders, and not on individuals of either gender. Individuals do not evolve. Populations evolve. If you’re not talking about Darwinian selection, what are you talking about?

:laughing:

Hope you are taking meds.

If women only fuck “players” with huge dicks, what good will thinking do “players” withy small dicks? :-k

I didn’t read the whole thread admittedly, but instead of the “red pill” propaganda, the important thing to remember is that women have entirely different personalities and character traits just like men do.

Some women are smart, some are dumb, some are nice, some are mean, some are honest, some are not., etc., etc.

There are HUGE differences between women…think of Mother Teresa vs. Jenna Jameson. They have almost 0 in common.

They’re humans, just like men. I work with lots of women, so I know.

That’s all I have to say about that :slight_smile:

Indeed.

What is “red pill propaganda”?
Okay I see it’s the Matrix. That has little to do with this stuff here.

I recommend you read “the whole thread” (even if its over two whopping pages long) before imagining what it is about.

You are perhaps aware that “woman” refers to an entity with the capacity to bear a child, and “man” refers to the inseminator? I suppose you think this is propaganda from the Matrix. The Warchowski brothers are quite brilliant (though I think the Matrix is gigantically overrated, especially given the crappy kung fu) but this is a bit too much credit.

This is not the issue - the issue is the power of both men and women at the same time. That power, the chemistry, needs to be reclaimed.

What will we do with it? Enjoy it, to begin with.

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It includes such things as like, bearing children. It includes a lot of things beyond that, many things to do with cultivating. It seems to me mankind is in a state of very deep degeneracy if such questions are even possible.

Okay this is more sensible.
But really, what is offered to them by hypersexualization is a chance to get the upper hand. But something is lacking, namely, philosophy. Pezer and I were doing some interesting work to offer seedling of such philosophy. Philosophy as the sublime, most powerful form of warfare.

The one comment it has reflects that our intentions at least come across;

This realization of hell is the only impetus strong enough to forge the arrow upward to the consciousness of power.

Technically, she’s the source of all life. Man is, genetically, a deviation. That allows him to be superior in all kinds of aspects, but still, man is a function of woman rather than vice versa. Technically. I is technically possible for mankind to live on if the male sex to goes extinct. If aliens ae real I suspect they’re all females, living without the absence of chemistry of sex, living thus without the enjoyment of being that Earthly nature provides.

Man is the source of enjoyment, not woman.
If you read back before modernity, you will find that to be commonly known in most cultures. Woman is the enjoyer, man is what is to be enjoyed. That excess of power is to be enjoyed, also by itself.
This also explains the ‘loose morality’ that woman are said to have regarding man - they see men as expendable, ewhrre men do not see women as expendable, as she is the ground to their existence and, by and large, the nature of their meaning.

So, the function of woman that is man is the entity capable of philosophy - that is to say, philosophy is a function of Earth (woman) or it has been in the process of becoming that since Nietzsche. Before Nietzsche and since Plato philosophy was homosexual. See for an exorbitantly blatant example of this, Charmides, but also in general Schopenhauer and the brittle and unwarlike nature of almost all philosophers - the absolute lack of regard for woman is something that has rendered man pathetically incompetent, or vice versa. Probably vice versa.

Nietzsche at last understood; Truth is a woman -

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“The assumption that animals are without rights and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality.” - R. Thur Schopenhauer

And if you were at a boarding house tea room with Schop seated at a table draped with Viennese silk sipping coffee and discussing the matter of morality, how it can be founded and how far extended (into animal rights perhaps), he’d beat u every time hands down. Cuz he’d break it all down to a swirling, pointless Democritean-Machuhvellian theater of violence, destruction and dissipation at the very heart of every known dynamic process in the universe. Kinda hard to beat a dude who’s recognized pain as a monolithic problem, especially considering that it is all in vain anyway. In that respect, the animal, which is just another dumb, pointless meat machine of blind will that is capable of tremendous, tremendous suffering, gets the same recognition. The offer to extend one’s hand even here to another species is to recognize that thing we share, that stupid, useless suffering while waiting for godot and iambiguous.

That’s basically all it is. Morality is based fundamentally on physical empathy, sympathy and compassion, for Schop. Because everything is pointless, physical suffering makes it that much worse, and as such is the first order of business and to be settled for all sentient creatures who share the planet. Schop was deep on some real shit bruh.

The reason why he’s a dick is because he has that natural staunch air of superiority that follows and belongs to those first terrible erudite nihilist gentlemen of resplendent propriety, dignity, and profound intellect, who actually put something with substance down.

Love/chemistry pushed to its ultimate conclusion:

" But even your best love is only an enraptured simile and a painful ardour. It is a torch to light you to loftier paths.

Beyond yourselves shall ye love some day! Then LEARN first of all to love. And on that account ye had to drink the bitter cup of your love.

Bitterness is in the cup even of the best love: thus doth it cause longing for the Superman; thus doth it cause thirst in thee, the creating one!

Thirst in the creating one, arrow and longing for the Superman: tell me, my brother, is this thy will to marriage?

Holy call I such a will, and such a marriage.— "

But first step to love properly, which means firstly not approaching woman from some cost benefit analysis, which means seeing woman as neither conniving whores or earth goddesses.

Women tend to enjoy the fruits of man ( his creative accomplishments, his displays power etc) , while men tend to enjoy women directly (woman as she is )… which isn’t to say that women don’t enjoy men directly or that this isn’t her first love (just being together being highest form of enjoyment).

Of course, Nietzsche does literally say, "Man shall be trained for war, and woman for the recreation of the warrior: all else is folly. "

I actually think both sexes are a source of life. Woman gives birth in a physical sense obviously.

Women lose respect for men that put them on a pedestals (so putting her on a pedestal shows a lack of regard for women)… Maybe men should adopt some of this “loose morality” from women:

“Courageous, unconcerned, scornful, coercive - so wisdom wishes us; she is a woman, and ever loves only a warrior.”

Yeah, excellent. You got me on all points.

Fucking Nietzsche, man. How the hell is it even possible that a mind like that existed?

I don’t know, do we really owe Shopenhauer some in this regard? If so he’s immensely exalted.

It’s been a very long time since I reads his main philosophical work, Will and Imagination. I read it in a fever. I mean it caused a fever, and as with the one other true existentialist writer that I know, WF Hermans, I have only a single, stark memory of it, of one particular state which can indeed be summed up in the word ‘existence’.

He must have been fooling around, joking when he wrote that stuff about woman, and about nirvana. Not that there’s not a kernel of honesty in it but it is so far inferior to his more profound thoughts.

I had reread this chapter by the way, that you quoted on marriage, a few weeks earlier after a meditation on Balder. Balder seems uncannily able to allow me to find proper texts for me to read in given moments.

I hadnt really had contact with Balder before. He’s made out a bit to be a bit vulnerable, but he is extremely sharp and hard, like the Sun can be in the high North, not warm, just cold-hot. Anyway he is a rather potent God, to say the least.

Im very fascinated by the various Sun Gods and their differences. Previously Id mostly interacted with Apollon.

I was at the temple of Apollon one morning - he woke me up at sunrise, a ray found its way through the curtain of the very shabby hotel at Delphi, woke me up in the knowledge it was the god who had awoken me. I had planned to go to the temple complex that day so I was deeply thrilled to get this call. I was there long before anyone else, right as the place opened, the Sun had just come out to wake me, after that the weather went back to rain and drizzle, weather I love when Im alone in rugged country. I love the type of rain you can be in for a long time without getting soaked.

I got a whole two hours of wandering around the complex alone by myself with the several cats roaming there, continuously encroaching on the main temple of Apollon, until finally I crossed the threshold, the little fence around it and began looking underneath some of the vestiges. Then somme guards approached, and I called out to them “stay back, respect the God!”, and they murmured “respect the God” and left me alone.

Real Greeks. Socrates is just a forgettable footnote for them. What a ridiculous fraud that Socrates was.

Greeks are also the ones who force me to respect Christianity. Of course Christianity is a Greek religion. Naturally Nietzsche says its a function of Platonism but … I really doubt that. Much of its western expression no doubt derives the bulk of its tastes from Plato and Aristotle, but there is something very hard beyond that. Something you also find in Russian Christianity. I dont think anyone would claim that the Russian spirit owes much to Plato and yet Christianity fits them like a glove. The cold of it, the endurance.

Anyway, what was I saying… Sun Gods and their cats.

What would you think of life with a mother who told you that it would have been far better had he, Schopenhauer, never been born. That would have been quite something to rise out of the ashes over, no?

“A sense of humour is the only divine quality of man”
― Arthur Schopenhauer

“Treat a work of art like a prince: let it speak to you first.”
― Arthur Schopenhauer

“To attain something desired is to discover how vain it is; and…though we live all our lives in expectation of better things, we often at the same time long regretfully for what is past. The present, on the other hand, is regarded as something quite temporary and serving only as the road to our goal. That is why most men discover when they look back on their life that they have the whole time been living ad interim, and are surprised to see that which they let go by so unregarded and unenjoyed was precisely their life, was precisely in expectation of which they lived.”
― Schopenhauer

Seems like someone I would have liked to know.

Why do we often throw the baby out with the bathwater?