All of those proven to be true (not that you care what is true) but your cult doesn’t allow those thoughts in your mind.
And all of that comes from your cult.
Such an easily manipulated bubble you live in.
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When others attempt to engage, you don’t, and you go start a new thread. True!
MagsJ:
When others attempt to engage, you don’t, and you go start a new thread. True!
K: I don’t meet your expectations of a philosopher, oh well,
I really don’t worry about that… I just do my thing…
regardless if you approve or not…
Kropotkin
That’s not what I said/meant, but, um, oh ok.
It’s been said that everyone has a book in them… doesn’t mean they ate it, and the ‘educated’ aren’t always educated.
…and is not bread and circuses much more preferable to the modern version of keeping the masses entertained with drugs and immoral things… and at least they entertained their People, unlike certain countries where People were and still are cash cows.
When the circus and fair would come to town each year, the People would rejoice and went… it’s a reel mood-lifter I can tell ya.
What do I think has ruined the World… bribery and corruption… the number 1. leveller of them all.
Thanks… ; )
…and Peter said that no-one here ever philosophises, proper.
I guess addictive pharmaceuticals, free addictive porn, and accessible addictive narcotics etc., are much more acceptable than bread and circuses… to those who prefer their playing-fields level, and not true.
Killing school children is all part of the Bread and Circuses.
The ritual destruction and slaughter has always been the lifeblood of the circus.
Whilst the destruction of the innocent continues and the ritual backlash of the anti-gun lobby against the NRA unfolds; the pathetic attempts at legislation and the moronic mantra of the “amendment” gets trotted out ad nauseum the government enjoying the distraction get on with other things that go under the radar ignored by a complicit media run by the same class as those enjoying the further exploitation of the poor to favour the rich.
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That’s the American version of ‘panem et circenses’ …I was thinking more generally/globally, than that.
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Another PK deserted thread… he makes his point, he runs… some of us, stands our ground.
Peter doesn’t want his questions answered.
He stated that he has a lot to say to me, but he doesn’t speak to devils.
Yes. I am part devil. Is that too much for you to handle Peter?
I’m not going to hurt you.
Truth hurts you. I’ve seen it over and over.
The thing I’ve noticed most about people all these years is that they can’t handle the implications of being the enemies they critique.
So they stop using implication and definitional logic.
Peter. The moment you try to convert somebody is the moment you lost your soul.
Am I trying to convert you to that?
No. Time will do the favor for you.
We all would like to believe what we would like to believe.
peter you’ve gotta go to twitter that’s where the smart people on the internet hang out. this board was overrun by conspiracy types and right wingers who don’t even consider themselves right wingers a long time ago.
K: I have actually gone elsewhere, another philosophy site… for that
reason… I occasionally post here, but mostly I just watch this site
slowly fade away…
Kropotkin
My main issue with the OP is that a lot of people actually do know about the problems you describe. Maybe you’re focusing on the wrong pockets of humanity when trying to assess how prevalent the awareness is or isn’t. Yes we have some pretty big problems both now and imminent. How do you get people to notice? Know your audience. You can’t change peoples minds in real time but you can soften their positions over time. Don’t expect them to thank you. Just keep talking the talk. And be sure to stick around at least for a little while for the rebuttals and if it gets circular or disorganized, or people deflect with ad hominems, you can point it out, but it usually doesn’t stop them. They are doing it for a reason, and in rhetoric, deflections and ad hominems work really well. You can respectfully agree to disagree and try again later or move on.
Try again later, to do what/for what end? …change minds?
I was looking forward to a good debate with Peter on this topic, but got none… a good topic none-the-less… a shame it didn’t progress… beyond Peter’s blinkered mind.
I can’t answer for Peter. But yeah, one can “try again later” but don’t expect much. I just think at times you can catch people (maybe not Kropotkin, idk) in different moods or come from a different angle, and suddenly you have a discourse instead of a series of deflections. Orderly discourse is the holy grail because both sides get a chance to explore and learn, because they’re both on the side of discourse, above all. But yeah, come back, try again, you can get positions to soften over time, or you can hone your wisdom for anticipating the pushback and find any weak spots in your own argument. I’m a firm believer in continuing the conversation. I no longer get a thrill from being clever and theatrical. I like a nice, clean, orderly dialectic on an urgently importantly topic. I rarely get that, but I always come back to people to try again. Ever hopeful.
According to Google, the word “panic” means “sudden uncontrollable fear or anxiety, often causing wildly unthinking behaviour”. With that in mind, are you really sure you want to cause “wildly unthinking behavior”? Do you really want people to be irrational in order to solve problems?
I can second that. He has stated on at least one occasion – although I believe he did it more than once – that he has no interest in conversing with people on this board and that that is simply his style. He has that “I don’t care what other people think of me” attitude.
I’d say that’s the right attitude.
We live in hope…
Peter doesn’t care what people think, at all.
The best outlook to have, on a message board? 
From a central position his utility consist of a backwater glance into the way epic persona of the day used to impersonate themselves as everyman back then.
He does appear as a critical voice above the political facade, not necessarily ingeniously soapbox, but establishing successfully a baseline of withheld suppression of social apprehension placed on a petri dish, that obviously need no amplification .
Although he does assign himself such a role that makes discussion less then convincingly resolute, the baseline is like a springboard for above and below that boundary a point of departure for others.
So a kind of ‘return to main street’ has reactive value to things seemingly spinning out of control.( in forum and out)
Maybe, maybe not.
hey peter good news today. the fbi raided mar-a-lago. served a warrant. i think it’s about that truckload of classified documents he stole when he was leaving the white house. he was in NJ at the time. they opened his safe at mar-a-lago. fox et all are spazzing lolol