Not to deviate from the topic too far - but what attitudes determine what is an “elevated value”?
This issue switches from what is - to what should be.
Not wanting to butt in but perhaps a small exploration of Axiology may answer some of your questions unless of course, I am misdirected by what you guys are saying.
I think that would just change who I asked - not anything toward getting an answer. 
Perhaps! I will butt back out then…with a bow…and watch from afar…far afar.
I think I interacted with James S Saint only once or twice because it seemed clear to me that he was interested in developing a metaphysical system and I was a metaphysical skeptic who wasn’t interested in arguing with him. Since I have been on ILP I have yet to see anyone receive as much appreciation as he is now receiving here.
I have to confess a degree of obsession about James (more really about the things he brought out that I know I would never have thought about) 
. From the beginning the points he would raise in debates with people just struck me as so clear - I can’t imagine why I (and so many others) never thought about those things (like to define what being a “god” means before arguing whether one exists - I think the first thing I noted). And he just kept pilling them on - and he maintained coherence throughout so so many normally unrelated topics. I haven’t studied philosophy (at all really) but to get into so many things - from the very reason why the universe exists (without deflecting to “God did it”) - to what it means to be a god - to why physics works the way it does - to why people do what they do - eventually to a totally new way to structure a government without ever ignoring or separating one reasoning from another - everything related to basic - apparently universal - principles. He actually explained how every topic is actually the same thing - if you understand any one - you already have an understanding of the others - just “get your words straight” he said (the consummate reductionist).
And speaking of that issue - it occurred to me to ask myself how James would answer that question -
And immediately I could see that James (I’m sure) would simply say - “MIJOT” — of course.
The necessary attitudes to promote a conscious realization and incentive to pursue the aim of MIJOT would establish an “elevated value” guide - because it would align all of the massive tiny attitude associations with what everyone is innately born already trying to do - making everyone more “whole” - sane - civil - harmonious within and out (what religion is supposed to do).
I think I misunderstood that statement before. I guess what you were saying is that people should emphasize or raise the priority of their values.
The problem I see is that people are already their values animated. And to raise any one any higher they would have to reduce another. I don’t think anyone could gain more total amount of attitude (James’ PHT) or your values without growing a bigger brain - or bigger mind. So you are really saying that they should focus their values or attitudes - and then - toward which values or attitudes?
So they have to either drop some chosen concerns or gain a higher attitude toward growing a larger mind - else they couldn’t change anything they are already doing.
And if you/we want them to do that - we have to say or do whatever it takes to cause that - they couldn’t do it without outside influence inspiring them - choose our words carefully.
Getting back to the formidable analysis of James’ physics of psychology -
Trying to identify and study all of the possible structures formed by more basic elements is a daunting, nearly impossible task. When I think about the history of modern chemistry (the study of material valance structures) I see a massive project that has taken centuries to organize into entities, categories, problems, and solutions. Even using modern mega-computers the project isn’t yet complete.
Starting with a variety of atoms reacting to form molecules interacting to form materials reacting to form bodies the number of possible combinations is in the trillions - maybe more. And what I am seeing now is that James has laid out that exact same situation concerning mental and social “atoms” (thoughts and families), “molecules” (combined thoughts and organizations), and the other analogous structures. Would it take another century just to organize those too?
Material chemistry is used to create material solutions for enumerable efforts - imagine what psycho-chemistry would yield. And here we find it all laid out - the exact same situation of incalculable possible combinations of sub-components and structures - just waiting for the process of utilizing it all to play out - no more mere hypothetical guessing.
All of the mental, social, and political issues - all understood with extreme categorical detail - all with designable and constructable creations and cures - and all as complex as it can get - but there it is - just waiting. The massiveness of it really boggles my mind - and it is real - clear and present opportunity.
I have spent days just trying to wrap my mind around the scope all of this - especially related to political issues - I can’t let go of the reality of it - but I’m not going to try any more (it’s messing with my MIJOT) - just going to move on -
A matter of structural integrity.
Like literal elevation. You cant elevate something if you dont place it on a basis of great structural integrity.
So you recommend building a stronger base and building on it - I think that aligns with my second reply to your statement.
What attitudes (or “values”) do you emphasize to build that base?
Attitudes - (which isn’t the same as values); Truthfulness, discerningness, courage, wisdom, prudence but also extravagance - life amounts to nothing if it cant be extravagant, certainly not procreation - all these things are basically quite well known. There are more, we all know them.
This is not what I mean with elevating values - but Ive spoken on this so much that by now to repeat it would not be constructive.
Unfortunately this humanity is not conductive of elevation. It cant seem to be encouraged to elevate itself. So I guess we took another path.
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I translated James’ “PHT” to “attitudes” (being the affect produced by PHT) - it might not be a perfect translation - just a more common word.
Attitudes drive people into expressing values. So if a value is to change or be emphasized - it can only be through a change in attitude (or genetic manipulation).
It shouldn’t surprise me anymore that just after I analyze one of James’ posts and consider what the ideas would lead to - his very next post explains - in far more precise detail - exactly what my thoughts were - as is the case here -
And there it is - far more precision. He lists common electronic circuit components and reveals the direct analogies involved and how “mental circuits” can be designed. I’m not going to go through to check if each one is really perfectly analogous - I’ll accept that they are - or at least are close enough.
Later he writes -
Think about all of the millions of electronic circuit designs there are across the world - each made to perform a specific function. Imagine if psychologists did a similar effort with similar precision - what mental or social problem couldn’t be solved?
Apparently the globalists want to turn humanity into an ant colony of genetically programmed workers, soldiers, queens, and so on - perhaps psychologists could do it without genetics (not that they should).
Next James gets into an actual practical example - can’t wait to get into that - finally - but before that I have been thinking about a part I skipped over concerning his magnetism analogy.
He presents a great little video showing the relation between the affectance density (or energy/mass density) in a space and the effect it has on a passing PHT (or EMR) wave -
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And he then explains how that compression is the “magnetic” component of the “electromagnetic wave”. This is a different kind of magnetism than I was thinking of when he first mentioned the use of standard formulas. To me magnetism is seen when it causes a reverse current flow in an inductor - but that is actually the measurable resultant effect that the magnetic component has on electrons. Here he is talking about just the wave component itself - not the effect it has on particles.
He expresses that the magnetic component is merely an expression of how compressed an EMR wave is. I don’t know if science agrees or disagrees with that. I have never heard of anything like that and the way science deals with physics today - it isn’t likely they would ever comment one way or another. It is one of those things that seems to make sense - but can’t be easily verified. In any case it is definitively true within his ontology.
I have been thinking about the implications of how this issue relates to psychology - and it gets a little interesting - even though James didn’t seem to address it much.
The question was asked -
It doesn’t seem that he directly answered that. So I thought I’d see if it has a coherent answer by my own understanding of all of this -
The first part of the question - “what makes a “non-compressed” influence to a “compressed” influence” seems to be related to the issue of the inductor effect (what I was talking about earlier - one current causing another to push in the opposite direction). In a wire coil as each wire segment is next to another - the current flowing in the wire is actually inductively fighting itself - slowing the flow and causing a buildup of energy. I think that is what this part is referring to - that energy buildup and temporary storage.
So psychologically I guess this would mean that an active attitude and effort to accomplish something that is being retarded (but not dispersed) would have the effect of amplifying the urge - causing impatience and a feeling of frustration - “compressing the PHT initiated urge” - and temporarily storing the energy. And it is well known that oppressed urges get stronger - eventually expressed in an outburst - “decompressing the PHT wave”.
Socially that is seen when a class of people get overly oppressed and end up rebelling. The current critical race theory (CRT) is being used to give the impression that people are being overly oppressed because after all - it is the Perception of hope and threat - not the actual that drives action.
It seems that those controlling the news propaganda media understand at least this much of this theory - give certain people the impression that they are being overly oppressed by another group (Blacks being oppressed by Whites) and a war breaks out - current rioting in the cities and government approved anti-white racist sentiment.
So I’m thinking that “compression” of the PHT is socially (politically) “oppression”.
Psychologically I’m not sure what it is called - “repression”?
That seems to fit. I guess the only difference is whether the retarding is being done from the outside or inside. Either way - the effort isn’t dismissed but rather held back such that it “compresses” (or builds up - like a spring being compressed) into a stronger potential outburst of effort.
The next part of the question - “(what does it mean in psychological terms, that the trailing edge of the wave catches up to the leading edge), and what equals that “smaller volume”, wherein the potential is stored?” is a little more complicated.
Length can be an issue of either time or distance. In this psycho-physics length is an issue of close association and time – is just time (I think). So if a PHT urge is compressed it would mean that either the time issue from beginning to end of the urge is shorter or the association between the initiation of the urge and the completion of it are more associated - the first initial effort gets perceived as being more closely associated with the end effort (perhaps causing an inattentive person to do things in the wrong order because of his passion to get it instantly done).
Trying to think of an example -
Imagine a bloke gets a flat tire on the way to an important event - risking him missing it or missing the beginning of it. He immediately gains the urge to repair the flat tire as a time related urgent issue.
But just as he starts the repair effort he gets distracted by - perhaps children or his wife bickering and requiring his attention - or perhaps a copper pulls up behind him wanting him to answer questions. Either way his urgent effort is retarded (not dismissed). And during those moments - the urgency builds - gets stronger - gets either oppressed or repressed - “compressed” in his mind as not merely a series of small actions to get the tire repaired but more as a single priority event (more ignoring the smaller steps involved).
And then when the bloke is released from whatever was holding him back - he tries to act even faster - more willing to ignore all else - more focused - more concentrated effort. That would be the “outburst” and releasing the wave from its retarded compression into the free space.
So the shortening of time issue would be just that he is trying to get from the initial effort to the end more quickly. And the distance issue would be that in his mind the beginning effort would get more closely associated with the end effort such that he might “think ahead” a little more - more closely thinking that the initial effort is directly connected to the next effort - such that perhaps in his hurry he actually gets them out of order.
If he had stayed calm and didn’t feel rushed - he might not even consider what order to do things but rather just knew where to start and then let each stage imply what he must do next. That would make the entire effort more spread out - less closely intra-associated in his mind - PHT wave lengthened.
That seems like a good example of what he was saying but now I have to figure out how this would relate to magnetic induction.
That turned out to be easier than I thought it was going to be.
His end goal is to accomplish the repaired (or replaced) tire. He knows that he must do several things to get that done - and he must do them in order. So within his own mind he must repress his urge to do the last stage until he has completed the earlier stages.
And there we have it - psychological inductive repression causing an enhance urge - often causing all kinds of mistakes and problems.
Socially the same kind of thing would have to happen involving oppression (or the perception of it).
If there is a rebellious movement - perhaps some members of a group want to immediately go storm the castle - while other more thoughtful members tell them that first they must gather more people. The more thoughtful people are oppressing the others and the entire movement is repressing until they take action - because they perceived that they were being oppressed. Those who felt they were being held back get more impassioned - compressed PHT causing an enhanced rebellion (the US Capitol feigned insurrection comes to mind).
This all seems to be the issues of priorities and coordination. In the government the Conservative party tends to be the more thoughtful oppressors of the Liberal party wanting to immediately do the first thing on their mind. The Liberal party wants to spend-spend-spend. The Conservative party wants to ensure that there is a way to get the bills payed - Before the spending takes place - oppression of the passion - compression of the PHT wave - “magnetic buildup” and energy storage.
All of this seems to fit reality and what is actually going on in the world so well - it is hard to believe anyone could question it (or at least after they studied it).
Maybe Mithus can tell me if that answered her question - or perhaps just complicated it. 
So he proposes that he is going to take a mentally retarded 9 year old girl and turn her into a relative genius – zookers - that - is a tall order. 
Let’s see what he does -
So he is going to raise her IQ - to an extraordinary level. 
And repair her visual memory (without surgery or drugs) -
Seems a common practice so far - “turn off the tele - shut up - sit down - and pay attention.” (but more nicely put - I hope).
This bit seems an important revelation in its own right - the mind - from birth - has to guess at what is important - and then literally program itself to more readily handle it. Think about that - billions of infants born into a strange environment with their little brains having to figure out how to remember - what to remember - what to avoid - how to avoid - what to seek - how to seek - and then from its little guess work - “reprogram” itself. It makes the common infant’s brain seem an ingeniously clever device from birth. So how does it get so messed up -
So our little genius infantile brains - as clever as they are - can still get fooled and misled by what we encounter - parents, siblings, pets, teachers— all making what was a potential genius into a deranged angry authoritarian socialist (no wonder they want the children in public schools so immediately - easier to make permanent brainwashing).
In prior posts concerning the affectance ontology he has declared the definitions of “hope” and “threat” to be exactly whatever is drawn to or avoided. So that bit is definitively true.
That last little bit is disturbing. In this age of cancel culture - it is the intent of authoritarian socialists to erase all memory of Western culture - especially anything related to Whites (the only competition for the Chinese). The thought of it being an actual “technology” is very disturbing - but very probably true.
And the “saint” in James S Saint comes out. 
Yes - that is pretty bad. At the age of 9 - having been in public school in America - she cannot spell “CAT” - or even remember that she just saw it. That is like second or third grade in the US?
Wondering how he knew she wasn’t “seriously impaired in any other way”.
Repeat as often as necessary and never outrun her processing - complimenting her when she succeeds (a little positive reinforcement).
So he is not trying to teach her the words - but instead trying to teach her to remember what she sees and not be afraid to be tested.
As usual. my involvement has suffered an interraptus between the beginning and the current state of understanding the part-taken in-between, but to my mind at least, a consideration of general repression may be introduced, as a way to realign the differences hereas perhaps linking it to intrinsic control mechanism that were implied by James.
The focus on vector analysis may have detracted from these now universal affects ,
I’m not sure what you said but if it was along the lines of - “repression can be useful to align priorities (and perhaps other things)” - then I agree. But it can also become a serious problem - causing outbursts and mistakes.
On the first page I was paraphrased in my conversation with James, and since then, the matter has shifted from a presumably sub-conscious possibility - hiding an underlying motive to a more ‘objective’ yet lesser dimensionable. vector analysis.
I admit that i have a lot of catching up, but my motivation is more pronounced. pressing undetermined needs.
Repression-pressure-oppression can snowball from minute and subtle demonstration to matters of life and death. But this last paragraph be my own guide to how to connect or associate
loose ends.
In otherwords. outbursts are symptomatic of a charged up mix of levels expected/excepted, but not those defined by EC as the conscious opening of all channels irrespective of channel -ling and operating on particularly reified levels.
If i understand him correctly, that is, and I think so.
What EC is talking about is beyond the scope of this thread and such a thing would require a separate conversation to be dealt with in a way not to confuse this type of conversation.
It pays to keep things separate for analysis before bringing them together - any one thing we bring together with another thing must make some sense standing on its own two feet first, so to speak.
Ultimately I made this thread for obsrvr524 - we were in another thread and a question popped up from his interest in something I mentioned along the way.
I did not want to derail the other thread…
Instead of linking, apparently, I made this thread to give obsrvr524 a proverbial playground to work in - as you can see, he has been quite busy. Nonetheless, I did provide links in the OP of this thread. There was nothing intended to be personally directed at anyone - I just remembered that part of the conversation between you and James, Meno - and obsrvr524 has taken interest in a number of James-related things. Quotes in the OP were placed there to assist obsrvr524 - what happened after that, happened.
Peace, and kind regards, encode.
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I don’t mind others in my playground – as long as they don’t kick sand in my face.
At least that is the percept in his head.
Back to Schooling of Emma -
And he repeats except now making the test a little harder by allowing for a little distraction time before she has to recall.
So far his abstract method seems to be -
- Calm the room - minimize the “ambient affectance”.
- Show her a minimum sample - encourage a memory particle to form.
- Immediately test to see if memory took place - test to see if the memory “particle” formed.
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[] Randomly test each part of the picture she has seen (testing as a picture - not as words) - If fail - repeat the process
- If pass - compliment and move on
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[] Retest to ensure the particle is stable - If unstable - repeat
- If stable - increase the particle size (2 words) -
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- Test the addition - a little at a time
- Disallow and circumvent any guessing
- Randomly mix testing both original and addition again to ensure it is All stable
- Provide positive charge along the way (never negative)
His effort is to make the process of remembering what she sees a “hard-coded” process - emphasizing that it is about the more fundamental remembering of the picture - not letters or words.
So then he ensures that the entire page is securely in her mind and then mentions that “this is a final test” - to help her be accustom to being scrutinized.
- Thoroughly test each portion of the word list picture (I assume repeat on fail)
- Mention the “final test”
- Have her read from memory each letter from the bottom to the top of the page (again I assume repeat on fail).
- Take whatever time is necessary to not outrun her processes
- End the session with an extra positive charge.