WW_III_ANGRY wrote:arcturus rising wrote:WW_III_ANGRYYour values + intelligence
But what do you do if something holds you back from utilizing these tools?
Then you fail
That also teaches...
Philosophy For Us Dummies
Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Arcturus Descending » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:11 pm
That also teaches...
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."
"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."
“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”
Immanuel Kant
"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."
“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”
Immanuel Kant
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by WW_III_ANGRY » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:39 am
arcturus rising wrote:That also teaches...
Hopefully
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Arcturus Descending » Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:55 pm
WW_III_ANGRY wrote:arcturus rising wrote:That also teaches...
Hopefully
I read that as 'fall'.
But how to insure the teaching part - hopefully?
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."
"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."
“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”
Immanuel Kant
"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."
“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”
Immanuel Kant
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by turtle » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:59 pm
attention us dummies----
you are supposed to act anyway you want no matter how nasty...because your feelings must be expressed at all costs....you can rationalize it in many ways but get out there and fight...
you are supposed to act anyway you want no matter how nasty...because your feelings must be expressed at all costs....you can rationalize it in many ways but get out there and fight...
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Stoic Guardian » Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:28 pm
Whats, What?
"Fascism combats, and must combat, without respite or pity, not intelligence, but intellectualism—which is, as I have indicated, a sickness of the intellect" - Giovanni Gentile
”After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”- John F. Kennedy
”After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”- John F. Kennedy
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Calrid » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:29 pm
turtle wrote:attention us dummies----
you are supposed to act anyway you want no matter how nasty...because your feelings must be expressed at all costs....you can rationalize it in many ways but get out there and fight...
Fight the power! Did that come from your counsellor or your soul?
“I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence.”
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Calrid » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:30 pm
Stoic Guardian wrote:Whats, What?
What:
a. Which thing or which particular one of many: What are you having for dinner? What did she say?
b. Which kind, character, or designation: What are these objects?
c. One of how much value or significance: What are possessions to a dying man?
2.
a. That which; the thing that: Listen to what I tell you.
b. Whatever thing that: come what may.
3. Informal Something: I'll tell you what.
4. Nonstandard Which, who, or that: It's the poor what gets the blame.
adj.
1. Which one or ones of several or many: What college are you attending? You should know what musical that song is from.
2. Whatever: They soon repaired what damage had been done.
3. How great; how astonishing: What a fool!
adv.
How much; in what respect; how: What does it matter?
conj.
That: I don't know but what I'll go.
interj.
1. Used to express surprise, incredulity, or other strong and sudden excitement.
2. Chiefly British Used as a tag question, often to solicit agreement.
Basically.
“I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence.”
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by turtle » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:36 pm
i dont like nasty people.......
my psychoanalyst says im depressed...
my psychoanalyst says im depressed...
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Calrid » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:39 pm
turtle wrote:i dont like nasty people.......
my psychoanalyst says im depressed...
you probably are, but hell there's nothing wrong with that as long as you don't lose perspective. I'm an expert at being depressed, I learnt to value it given time, but I still hate it.
“I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence.”
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by turtle » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:43 pm
Calrid wrote:turtle wrote:i dont like nasty people.......
my psychoanalyst says im depressed...
you probably are, but hell there's nothing wrong with that as long as you don't lose perspective. I'm an expert at being depressed, I learnt to value it given time, but I still hate it.
my psychoanalyst is full of shit....
a lot of what he calls depression is my view of death....
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Stoic Guardian » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:43 pm
It used to be, before I discovered philosophy many of the times I would have deep an serious thoughts was when I was depressed. But then Plato and Epictetus helped me to end my depression.
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"Fascism combats, and must combat, without respite or pity, not intelligence, but intellectualism—which is, as I have indicated, a sickness of the intellect" - Giovanni Gentile
”After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”- John F. Kennedy
”After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”- John F. Kennedy
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Stoic Guardian » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:44 pm
turtle wrote:my psychoanalyst is full of shit....
a lot of what he calls depression is my view of death....
Whats a psychoanalyst?
"Fascism combats, and must combat, without respite or pity, not intelligence, but intellectualism—which is, as I have indicated, a sickness of the intellect" - Giovanni Gentile
”After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”- John F. Kennedy
”After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”- John F. Kennedy
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by turtle » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:45 pm
Stoic Guardian wrote:It used too be, before I discovered philosophy many of the times I would have deep an serious thoughts is when I was depressed. But then Plato and Epictetus helped me to end my depression.
how did they help?
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Stoic Guardian » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:50 pm
turtle wrote:Stoic Guardian wrote:It used too be, before I discovered philosophy many of the times I would have deep an serious thoughts is when I was depressed. But then Plato and Epictetus helped me to end my depression.
how did they help?
Plato in part gave me purpose and confidence, and Epictetus taught me that a Large part of being unhappy is being upset about things that are not under my own control (externals) and that being apathetic to these things ends much of the anxiety people put themselves through. Simply, happiness comes from within.
"Fascism combats, and must combat, without respite or pity, not intelligence, but intellectualism—which is, as I have indicated, a sickness of the intellect" - Giovanni Gentile
”After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”- John F. Kennedy
”After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”- John F. Kennedy
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Calrid » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:52 pm
turtle wrote:Calrid wrote:turtle wrote:i dont like nasty people.......
my psychoanalyst says im depressed...
you probably are, but hell there's nothing wrong with that as long as you don't lose perspective. I'm an expert at being depressed, I learnt to value it given time, but I still hate it.
my psychoanalyst is full of shit....
a lot of what he calls depression is my view of death....
You probably should get a second opinion then...
Stoic Guardian wrote:turtle wrote:my psychoanalyst is full of shit....
a lot of what he calls depression is my view of death....
Whats a psychoanalyst?
An Artist who may or may not speak something that suits you and makes you mentally healthier, but one who if he does not, does not.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by turtle » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:58 pm
a psychoanalyst treats YAVIS people who have a lot of money.....
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Stoic Guardian » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:22 pm
turtle wrote:a psychoanalyst treats YAVIS people who have a lot of money.....
Are you a HOUND with not so much money?
"Fascism combats, and must combat, without respite or pity, not intelligence, but intellectualism—which is, as I have indicated, a sickness of the intellect" - Giovanni Gentile
”After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”- John F. Kennedy
”After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”- John F. Kennedy
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by turtle » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:05 am
Stoic Guardian wrote:turtle wrote:a psychoanalyst treats YAVIS people who have a lot of money.....
Are you a HOUND with not so much money?
not a HOUND....unfortunately i am a YAVIS..my analyst uses me as a research object..he doesnt think i know.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by fuse » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:31 am
Hey dummies, get smart!
This is what it's all about.
This is what it's all about.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by turtle » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:51 pm
dummies---we have all learned so much from these topics....
how to argue...
how to be vague....
how to rant..
etc.
how to argue...
how to be vague....
how to rant..
etc.
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by turtle » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:54 pm
what do you dummies think of the DUMMY BOOKS?
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Arcturus Descending » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:10 pm
turtle wrote:dummies---we have all learned so much from these topics....
how to argue...
how to be vague....
how to rant..
etc.
That's really not something we've learned, little reptile. That's something we've been practicing.BUT - if we take a good look at that - we may learn how to Not do these things.
Its all just a part of our pre-conditioning. So we need to reprogram ourselves - change our patterns - dare to be different.
Anyway, is any of this all that important except for how it may change us?
If we are in a philosophy forum and remain the same - then we truly are dummies, aren't we?
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."
"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."
“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”
Immanuel Kant
"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."
“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”
Immanuel Kant
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by turtle » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:39 pm
windwalker wrote:turtle wrote:dummies---we have all learned so much from these topics....
how to argue...
how to be vague....
how to rant..
etc.
BUT - if we take a good look at that - we may learn how to Not do these things.
Its all just a part of our pre-conditioning. So we need to reprogram ourselves - change our patterns - dare to be different.
Anyway, is any of this all that important except for how it may change us?
If we are in a philosophy forum and remain the same - then we truly are dummies, aren't we?
very excellent response my friend..
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by Arcturus Descending » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:46 pm
Ah, et merci, mon petit ami reptilien. Et comment êtes-vous s'en sortent aujourd'hui? Est ce moment vous traiter gentiment? Et comment est-ce champ d'énergie merveilleuse palpitante qui vous aimez vous planterai?
It really Does take Much More energy to rant and argue - why do we Not conserve it for clarifying things - as opposed to muddying the waters? Clear clean waters make for clearer reflections of ourselves.
It really Does take Much More energy to rant and argue - why do we Not conserve it for clarifying things - as opposed to muddying the waters? Clear clean waters make for clearer reflections of ourselves.
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."
"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."
“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”
Immanuel Kant
"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."
“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”
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Re: Philosophy For Us Dummies
by turtle » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:54 pm
windwalker wrote:Ah, et merci, mon petit ami reptilien. Et comment êtes-vous s'en sortent aujourd'hui? Est ce moment vous traiter gentiment? Et comment est-ce champ d'énergie merveilleuse palpitante qui vous aimez vous planterai?
It really Does take Much More energy to rant and argue - why do we Not conserve it for clarifying things - as opposed to muddying the waters? Clear clean waters make for clearer reflections of ourselves.
you are very expressive with words...i love natural.
i hate artificial...you evoked that in me...
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