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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Mithus » Fri May 09, 2014 12:03 am

3Sum wrote:Also, not everything is a conspiracy JSS, for fucks sake :lol:

But wouldn't it be really naive, NOT to see a pattern in that?

Why do you think Hollywood likes it so much to portray the opposite of reality: making women more dominant/stronger while men submissive/weaker. Why is the feminist worldview and the "battle of the sexes" so much supported by the media. To get a few more lesbians in the cinemas? :lol:

The most effective way to make a population more manageable is to divide it....divide et impera - divide and conquer-; this goes back to Machiavelli. When you see it in this context: If there are the means to program a society, do you really think they won't be used?
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Uccisore » Fri May 09, 2014 12:05 am

Yeah, if 'whore' means 'inclined to promiscuity' then I'd agree men tend to be more guilty- to the extent that I can't imagine why anybody would try to claim the opposite.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Uccisore » Fri May 09, 2014 12:06 am

Mithus wrote:
3Sum wrote:Why do you think Hollywood likes it so much to portray the opposite of reality: making women more dominant/stronger while men submissive/weaker.


Optimistically, because people are much more likely to be offended by the truth than by irony and they don't want to rock boats. Cynically? Because they're all a bunch of social Marxists using the soapbox they've been given to undermine one more pillar of traditional human society.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 09, 2014 4:13 am

What's so good about tradition?
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Uccisore » Fri May 09, 2014 5:29 pm

It worked. What's so good about an untested alternative?
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 09, 2014 5:36 pm

Uccisore wrote:It worked. What's so good about an untested alternative?


It worked??? According to who? Back in the day, traditionally, people had slaves and witches were burned.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Uccisore » Fri May 09, 2014 5:43 pm

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Uccisore wrote:It worked. What's so good about an untested alternative?


It worked??? According to who? Back in the day, traditionally, people had slaves and witches were burned.


You didn't answer my question.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 09, 2014 5:44 pm

I didn't assert anything about untested alternatives. Burden of proof g. You didn't answer mine either.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Uccisore » Fri May 09, 2014 5:46 pm

mr reasonable wrote:I didn't assert anything about untested alternatives. Burden of proof g. You didn't answer mine either.


I sure as shit did. What's so good about traditions is that they have a proven track record. I asked you a follow up question, you don't feel like answering it, so now we're all done.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 09, 2014 5:48 pm

A proven track record of what? You call that an answer? You expect me to believe that you're arguing in good faith with that?
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Uccisore » Fri May 09, 2014 5:51 pm

I honestly couldn't care less what you think, I thought I made that clear. I already tried the whole 'explain my beliefs in an honest conversation' thing with you on multiple occasions, and in every case, you took it down to a single bullshit one-liner irrelevant to the conversation at hand. So now you get nothing from me- the moment you appear to be doing that thing you do, I drop the conversation. You should probably print this out, and tape it to the bottom of your computer monitor so you don't have to keep asking me why when I blow you off.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby statiktech » Fri May 09, 2014 6:57 pm

mr reasonable wrote:A proven track record of what? You call that an answer? You expect me to believe that you're arguing in good faith with that?


Ucci, for what it's worth, I'd actually like to know your answers to smears questions above. I really don't think he's being intentionally obnoxious. Tradition has a proven track record of some pretty terrible things as well. What you're doing is a clear appeal to tradition.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby statiktech » Fri May 09, 2014 7:01 pm

Uccisore wrote:It worked. What's so good about an untested alternative?


I'm not arguing for any specific untested alternatives, but I think some alternatives could possibly be better ones. If we only stick to tradition we may never know.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Uccisore » Fri May 09, 2014 7:40 pm

statiktech wrote:
mr reasonable wrote:Ucci, for what it's worth, I'd actually like to know your answers to smears questions above. I really don't think he's being intentionally obnoxious. Tradition has a proven track record of some pretty terrible things as well. What you're doing is a clear appeal to tradition.


It's a relative thing. I'm making an appeal to tradition in general, as opposed to reform in general, because Smears asked what's so good about tradition, in general. Whether or not every single tradition ever is good, or every single reform ever is bad, would be a whole other thing, right? Sure, traditional cultures have some some pretty terrible things. But it's not as though we have some perfect society to compare them to. The question is not 'can we think of anything bad a traditional culture has done', we have to ask if radicalism has a better track record, and it pretty clearly does not. Hence why I asked if alternatives are any better, and hence why Smears didn't want to answer that question.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby statiktech » Fri May 09, 2014 8:07 pm

I don't really see how you can say tradition has a better track record than reform. I don't think we'd seek reform if tradition had such a solid track record. Also, reform seems to be a part of tradition, so I'm not sure I agree that there is any real dichotomy.

Of course, I'm admittedly unaware of the discussions you've had in the past with smears regarding this subject, so my comments may not even be relevant.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Uccisore » Fri May 09, 2014 8:37 pm

statiktech wrote:I don't really see how you can say tradition has a better track record than reform. I don't think we'd seek reform if tradition had such a solid track record.


Why? People want different things, people don't bother studying history, and people can't predict/don't care what the results of their proposed reforms will be. Surely there's some reform movement out there you disagree with, what's your explanation for their existence if you agree with the above?

Also, reform seems to be a part of tradition, so I'm not sure I agree that there is any real dichotomy.


There's no dichotomy between tradition and change, but radical reform is another thing.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 09, 2014 9:21 pm

America was founded by people who wanted reform. I learned that in one of the 12 or so history classes I took in college.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Kriswest » Fri May 09, 2014 9:46 pm

As far as Hollywood goes, they are out to make money. Producers are not interested in educating, they want money, so they produce films that follow trends. In a few years they will produce other crap that the public wants to see. That is the only conspiracy, , catering to mass trends for money, not politics.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Mithus » Sat May 10, 2014 5:56 pm

Not the film-industry follows trends which are created by the masses, but the masses follow trends which are created by the film-industry.
And then again: It was the Parliament which forbid showing women being weaker than men.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby statiktech » Sat May 10, 2014 10:57 pm

Uccisore wrote:
statiktech wrote:I don't really see how you can say tradition has a better track record than reform. I don't think we'd seek reform if tradition had such a solid track record.


Why? People want different things, people don't bother studying history, and people can't predict/don't care what the results of their proposed reforms will be. Surely there's some reform movement out there you disagree with, what's your explanation for their existence if you agree with the above?

Also, reform seems to be a part of tradition, so I'm not sure I agree that there is any real dichotomy.


There's no dichotomy between tradition and change, but radical reform is another thing.


I don't understand the question. Of course there will be reform movements I disagree with, just like some traditions. Why do I need to explain their existemce?
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Kriswest » Mon May 12, 2014 3:34 pm

Mithus wrote:Not the film-industry follows trends which are created by the masses, but the masses follow trends which are created by the film-industry.
And then again: It was the Parliament which forbid showing women being weaker than men.

Each country has their issues, if your country did something like that then protest, stick your neck out there. Its an idiotic law. Here Hollywood just does it for money. Comicbook action movies are trending as well as Scifi. Previous trend was government/military / cops. Romance and family was before that and Westerns somewhere before. And I just get really disgusted when women run in the woods with high heels, trip in front of the bad guy/monsters and scream helplessly. I mean reaaally???
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Arminius » Tue May 13, 2014 2:21 am

James S Saint wrote:The new world is a world of psychologically and medically programmed drones to serve the Socialist Emperor Queen - Bee Hive, Ant Colony design.

The very huge companies can alraedy be compared with a bee or ant colony. I call them "super organisms" or "organisation systems". They behave like bee colonies.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby James S Saint » Tue May 13, 2014 3:00 am

Excessive naivety has once again raised its ugly head.

The mandate stemming from WW2 was that all of society (in effect, all life) is to be controlled via Money, for a variety of reasons dating back to king Solomon's temple and eventually to the formation of the FED. When one controls the money source of any society, they control the society.

Thus the military must make money in order to thrive. Non-profit organizations must make money to thrive. And Hollywood must make money to thrive. None of them are making money merely to make money. Money is used to support the effort to perform the other function.

During the late 60's and early 70's the news and Hollywood media expressed its power against the government. During the 70's many agreements and disagreements formed between the military and the media. In the late 70's it was proposed to make the media into the "Fourth Branch of the Government". Despite it being extremely unconstitutional (for good reasons), the only real objection was that the media wasn't an organized entity.

By 1980 after a considerable number of media businesses had been taken over or annihilated, the media had finally come under singular management. In 1980-81 the Writers Guild in Hollywood went on strike against the new censorship rules being imposed on them concerning exact content and psychological promotion involved in all story lines and films. The Guild lost their strike and thus for a few years, Hollywood had no competent writers. But the media groups, MGM and such, had anticipated that and proceeded anyway. So for a short while, to keep the ratings up, sexual scenes became common on public TV (R-rated films on open-air TV).

After that point, all psychological content was to be exactly programmed and has become extreme to the point of literally dictating the variation of pixel coloring and timing on HDTV screens to maximize hypnotic effect. The particular agenda being promoted had nothing to do with corporate concerns, but rather what later was formulated into the UN's Agenda 21.

Agenda 21 and its later addons (Rio-5,10,20) specify how the world is to be ("Because this is the future we want"). It includes the requirement of psychological manipulation of the masses at all times. Money is merely one of the three foundations of control to ensure that society remains under control at all times.

And as so often occurs, if you think this is merely conspiracy theory, you are living in the stone age. It was conspiracy theory 40 years ago when only a few people knew about it. Today, the actual documents are wide spread, the events aren't secret, the agenda isn't secret to anyone but the most naive. 180 "political leaders of the world of socialist nations" convened at the UN and set forth how the new world order is going to be.... period (no surprise that the new world is to be a socialist world controlled by those same political leaders). Realize that a political leader is a professional social manipulator. That is literally his job. Social engineering (the use of sex, women, diseases, media selection, false-flags, chemicals,.. anything that works...) is used to mold the new world.

If you want to know what the new world is to be, you can read their documents yourself...

James S Saint wrote:

Agenda 21 is about 300 pages. You can download the PDF file.


The point is that people's lives are simply being deleted and rearranged into someone else's new design. So the question is an ethical one. What is owed to those who were created by (the former population) and/or were invested into a prior designed society when someone decides to alter the design.

Wiki wrote:The full text of Agenda 21 was made public at the UN Conference on Environment and Development (Earth Summit), held in Rio de Janeiro on June 13, 1992, where 178 governments voted to adopt the program. The final text was the result of drafting, consultation, and negotiation, beginning in 1989 and culminating at the two-week conference.
Rio+5 (1997)

In 1997, the UN General Assembly held a special session to appraise the status of Agenda 21 (Rio +5). The Assembly recognized progress as "uneven" and identified key trends, including increasing globalization, widening inequalities in income, and continued deterioration of the global environment. A new General Assembly Resolution (S-19/2) promised further action.
Rio+10 (2002)
Main article: World Summit on Sustainable Development

The Johannesburg Plan of Implementation, agreed at the World Summit on Sustainable Development (Earth Summit 2002) affirmed UN commitment to "full implementation" of Agenda 21, alongside achievement of the Millennium Development Goals and other international agreements.
Agenda 21 for culture (2002)
Main article: Agenda 21 for culture

The first World Public Meeting on Culture, held in Porto Alegre, Brazil, in 2002, came up with the idea to establish guidelines for local cultural policies, something comparable to what Agenda 21 was for the environment.[2] They are to be included in various subsections of Agenda 21 and will be carried out through a wide range of sub-programs beginning with. G8 countries.[citation needed]
Rio+20 (2012)
Main article: United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development

In 2012, at the United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development the attending members reaffirmed their commitment to Agenda 21 in their outcome document called "The Future We Want". 180 leaders from nations participated.

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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby James S Saint » Tue May 13, 2014 3:08 am

Arminius wrote:
James S Saint wrote:The new world is a world of psychologically and medically programmed drones to serve the Socialist Emperor Queen - Bee Hive, Ant Colony design.

The very huge companies can alraedy be compared with a bee or ant colony. I call them "super organisms" or "organisation systems". They behave like bee colonies.

In the USA, a "Corporation" is different than a "Company". A corporation is literally a citizen with almost the exact same rights as a person; some greater, some less. A company is merely a group effort owned by a person or partnership. There are substantially different laws regulating the two.
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It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
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Re: Sex and the City quotes foster (female) stupidity

Postby Mithus » Tue May 13, 2014 10:37 am

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Kriswest wrote:Each country has their issues, if your country did something like that then protest, stick your neck out there. Its an idiotic law. Here Hollywood just does it for money. Comicbook action movies are trending as well as Scifi. Previous trend was government/military / cops. Romance and family was before that and Westerns somewhere before. And I just get really disgusted when women run in the woods with high heels, trip in front of the bad guy/monsters and scream helplessly. I mean reaaally???

This is not an issue of 'my country'. A law, which is passed by the European Parliament is valid in all 28 countries of the European Union. Gender mainstreaming (political sex-change would be a more appropriate expression) is a stated goal of the EU and the gender-lobby is financially supported by it. "Equality of men and women is only then guaranteed, when women become full time employed".
. Translation: The human resources of women who are not engaged in paid full-time work, are plain and simple unused.
Everything gets done to destroy families.

Going out into the streets and protest? No thanks, I'm neither a political activist nor a martyr. Say something against mainstream or against political correctness, and they throw you immediately in the radical right- wing corner.

Mithus wrote:Women who just want to stay at home, have children and look after the house and the family, are already now regarded as being lazy, not to say asocial.

I don't say that women should go back to home and hearth. I merely want them to have the choice.
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