surreptitious57 wrote:I ask you when was the last time you did something violent and chaotic in the name of anarchy and you cannot give a simple answer
You also keep repeating your mantra about the total collapse of civilisation - something for which there is zero precedent in history
but which you think will happen anyway. Now you claim that it will be soon but when exactly is that now ? Before or after you die ?
HaHaHa wrote:
You and Pandora want to focus this entire thread on me personally without even discussing the subject of this thread that it entails
surreptitious57 wrote:HaHaHa wrote:
You and Pandora want to focus this entire thread on me personally without even discussing the subject of this thread that it entails
Actually the subject of this thread is about reconciling your nihilistic beliefs with your anarchist beliefs so is personally about you
surreptitious57 wrote:Now I have never attacked you as all I have done is ask you simple straightforward
questions pertaining to your anarchist beliefs which you cannot apparently answer
HaHaHa wrote:It's the way you go about asking your questions that are indeed insulting.
Pandora wrote:HaHaHa wrote:It's the way you go about asking your questions that are indeed insulting.
A civilized anarchist!
Do you want us to send you a list of questions first, so you can sort out which ones hurt your feelings and which do not?
Are you actually asking others to be easy on you? To play...*ahem*...fair?
"Insulting"...that's another word that belongs in the "embarrassment" family. I don't know why an anarchist is even using these words.
Pandora wrote:HaHaHa wrote:It's the way you go about asking your questions that are indeed insulting.
A civilized anarchist!
Do you want us to send you a list of questions first, so you can sort out which ones hurt your feelings and which do not?
Are you actually asking others to be easy on you? To play...*ahem*...fair?
"Insulting"...that's another word that belongs in the "embarrassment" family. I don't know why an anarchist is even using these words.
Mimisbrunnr wrote:Pandora wrote:HaHaHa wrote:It's the way you go about asking your questions that are indeed insulting.
A civilized anarchist!
Do you want us to send you a list of questions first, so you can sort out which ones hurt your feelings and which do not?
Are you actually asking others to be easy on you? To play...*ahem*...fair?
"Insulting"...that's another word that belongs in the "embarrassment" family. I don't know why an anarchist is even using these words.
This is what I have never understood about "anarchists". They call for something like global economic collapse or breakdown of society and all that their fantasizing minds correlate with that (see photos above), yet simultaneously are idealists/utopians that are seemingly blind to reality in one form or another, resulting in situations like the above. I call it the Underpants Model for Civilization (See: Underpants gnomes)
HaHaHa wrote:
Its the way you go about asking your questions that are indeed insulting. Dont play coy with me
If you want to discuss what I describe as Anarchist Nihilism that is fine. You will however cease engaging me about my personal life
surreptitious57 wrote:HaHaHa wrote:
Its the way you go about asking your questions that are indeed insulting. Dont play coy with me
If you want to discuss what I describe as Anarchist Nihilism that is fine. You will however cease engaging me about my personal life
My questions are not the least bit insulting and so stop implying that they are. Neither am I interested in your personal life. I have simply asked you to explain your anarchist beliefs and no thing else. You do not have to do that of course but I will still point out inconsistencies where I see them. And here is one : you claim most human beings are spine less cowards for not wanting to kill internationalists. But you the self proclaimed violent chaotic anarchist would not do any killing yourself because you do not want to get arrested. So your position is entirely false. For as I have already said you like to call yourself an anarchist but at the same time you are not prepared to actually engage in any. I shall continue to point out the hypocrisy of your position as long as you do do nothing. Which is neither insulting or an invasion of your privacy as you imply. But the simple undeniable truth
HaHaHa wrote:I don't have to do much of anything as all the government social orders of the world currently are destroying civilization faster than any anarchist could.
No, individuals like me only need to wait for that one moment of vulnerability and weakness around the world then strike.
Pandora wrote:HaHaHa wrote:I don't have to do much of anything as all the government social orders of the world currently are destroying civilization faster than any anarchist could.No, individuals like me only need to wait for that one moment of vulnerability and weakness around the world then strike.
That is a very convenient thinking. Do you have plan B just in case this does not happen?
Also, one does not have to be an anarchist to be able to strike the weak or exploit the weaknesses. Being an anarchist does not necessarily mean that you'd have an advantage when and if civilization collapses. Somehow you're assuming (hoping really) that when everything shakes out, you'd end up at the top of the food chain. But top people have a deeper understanding of human nature and how to manipulate it in different situations. And you do not come across as that kind of person.
You could very well become victim of your own 'friends'.
You consistently stay within certain boundaries, and that defines you. If you want to play coy and mysterious, go ahead, but don't think that it would make anyone with real sense think any better of you for it.HaHaHa wrote:I have multiple plans for many things. Don't strike you as that kind of person? You really don't know what kind of person I really am. A bit presumptuous on your part.
In the absence of law, even o-r-g-a-n-I-z-e-d crime will have a lot more accomplished - it may even become the next ruling government.I'm just a ronin man and you be surprised how formidable we ronins can really be especially in the absence of law.
Pandora wrote:You consistently stay within certain boundaries, and that defines you. If you want to play coy and mysterious, go ahead, but don't think that it would make anyone with real sense think any better of you for it.HaHaHa wrote:I have multiple plans for many things. Don't strike you as that kind of person? You really don't know what kind of person I really am. A bit presumptuous on your part.In the absence of law, even o-r-g-a-n-I-z-e-d crime will have a lot more accomplished - it may even become the next ruling government.I'm just a ronin man and you be surprised how formidable we ronins can really be especially in the absence of law.
Pandora wrote:You consistently stay within certain boundaries, and that defines you. If you want to play coy and mysterious, go ahead, but don't think that it would make anyone with real sense think any better of you for it.HaHaHa wrote:I have multiple plans for many things. Don't strike you as that kind of person? You really don't know what kind of person I really am. A bit presumptuous on your part.In the absence of law, even o-r-g-a-n-I-z-e-d crime will have a lot more accomplished - it may even become the next ruling government.I'm just a ronin man and you be surprised how formidable we ronins can really be especially in the absence of law.
Pandora wrote:You consistently stay within certain boundaries, and that defines you. If you want to play coy and mysterious, go ahead, but don't think that it would make anyone with real sense think any better of you for it.HaHaHa wrote:I have multiple plans for many things. Don't strike you as that kind of person? You really don't know what kind of person I really am. A bit presumptuous on your part.In the absence of law, even o-r-g-a-n-I-z-e-d crime will have a lot more accomplished - it may even become the next ruling government.I'm just a ronin man and you be surprised how formidable we ronins can really be especially in the absence of law.
"Theft exists only through the exploitation of man by man… when Society refuses you the right to exist, you must take it… the policeman arrested me in the name of the Law, I struck him in the name of Liberty."
— Clément Duval
"War, Class war, and you were the first to wage it under the cover of the powerful institutions you call order, in the darkness of your laws. There will have to be bloodshed; we will not dodge; there will have to be murder: we will kill, because it is necessary; there will have to be destruction; we will destroy to rid the world of your tyrannical institutions." - Carlo Valdinoci
HaHaHa wrote:
A methodology for a biologically based existence that rejects arbitrary morality in favor of cause and effect and inviolate forces predicated upon that
which is objectively self evident and without need of belief within a sustainable mental and physical environment that promotes independent thinking
Mimisbrunnr wrote:Pandora wrote:You consistently stay within certain boundaries, and that defines you. If you want to play coy and mysterious, go ahead, but don't think that it would make anyone with real sense think any better of you for it.HaHaHa wrote:I have multiple plans for many things. Don't strike you as that kind of person? You really don't know what kind of person I really am. A bit presumptuous on your part.In the absence of law, even o-r-g-a-n-I-z-e-d crime will have a lot more accomplished - it may even become the next ruling government.I'm just a ronin man and you be surprised how formidable we ronins can really be especially in the absence of law.
Another huge point that seems to get glossed over in the anarchist mindset as far as I have come to know it; the fact that it is not only religions and political parties that are organized and control segments of society and its population. There is very little difference between an organized crime syndicate and a governing political body, and I'm not trying to be facetious.
A majority of humans need that shepherd as described elsewhere by the clown. That will not magically change when everything collapses.
“In chaos, there is fertility.”
― Anaïs Nin
"No structure, even an artificial one, enjoys the process of entropy. It is the ultimate fate of everything, and everything resists it.”
― Philip K. Dick
"Order is what exists before you start arranging things.”
― Marty Rubin
“Upset The Established Order Of Your Life And Everything Becomes Chaos...To A Degree That You Wont Be Able To Differentiate Between Mere Illusions And Solid Reality”
― Sherif A. El-Mawardy,
"Let us strangle the last king with the guts of the last priest."- Dennis Diderot
HaHaHa wrote:"Let us strangle the last king with the guts of the last priest."- Dennis Diderot
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