“If you are talking about your constitution, I assume the “we” are the US citizens”
Seeing as is ain’t your constitution…
I’m not endorsing that religions beliefs be restricted in any way other then to preclude their mixing with the politics of the State, including any notion of military defense or aggression.
“We The People” sounds like a fairly communistic way to begin a preamble to the formation of a constitutional republic. Communism is a two class system where the working class has no real voice in how a country is run. Sounds remarkably similar to what the Republicans are trying to accomplish. Same result, does it matter what it is called? That’s irony.
Every nation has a “we the people” concern at the very top, especially democracies. In communism “we” don’t have a voice to be saying anything. In socialist and especially communist countries, “You the people in order to conform to…” is more fitting.
That is mere socialism - pre-communism. Communism is when the upper class gets reduced down so that everyone is impoverished together (which is why it never actually works).
From abroad it is very very obvious that both US parties have an upper class of elites. The difference is that the socialist party (“Democrats”) are extremely snobbish “I’m better than you”, “rules for thee not me”, “I am above you” (Ms Pelosi, Ms Clinton types) while espousing “we love and care for you little people” and making background often criminal deals to cheat and rob from the public. The Republican party has less of that and more of the hard nose business minded “we know what makes sense”, “law and order”, “these are the rules we all must play by” while also (but far less often) making background deals to support their favorite donors. The Republicans lie far less often but are still far from being pure of heart.
Both parties very obviously support massive corporations who end up controlling them more than being controlled by them.
Democrats = “we are better than you” using media corporation money to beguile the public.
Republicans = “we are smarter than you” using industrial corporate money to stay in office.
There doesn’t seem to be a great difference until this presidency. Mr Trump triggered the Democrats to go full on swamp, as dirty as they can get, lying criminal espionage, zero ethics or concern for the public. And the Republicans just sit back and watch.
The thing that Americans are being blinded to is that China has been running the American socialist agenda for decades. That is why the Democrats keep yelling RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!. Russia has been playing a very minor role and certainly not favoring Mr Trump. Both Russia and most certainly China desperately want Mr Biden to win (especially Iran).
Communist = anti-religion
Socialist = one religion only (ours)
Democratic = just vote, who cares about religion.
I find this sentence a self contradiction such that “every nation” does not have a “we the people” concern. But, for a nation to begin with it, as a preamble to their constitution implies it was an important way to frame the organization and formation of a nation by it’s founding fathers. I don’t think either of our dominant political parties have been loyal to that founding principle. A lot of lip service and propaganda is disseminated toward the public perception of it, but in practice, and policy, not so much.
To do anything to subvert the process of, one person, one vote makes a mockery of “We The People”. As example encouraging an armed militia’s to quote “observe” the vote is a form of subversion, in a sinister disguise. Casting doubt on the voting process itself is a subversion. To declare statements like “if I don’t win, the election was rigged” is a subversion. Trump is an egomaniac. He endorses notions of imprisonment with out due process with his rally chants of “lock em up”. What happened to the presumption of innocence? Where is the trial, the evidence, the impartial jury of peers, in that sentiment? It falls just short of capital punishment, why lock em up when that costs money… the democratic communist monsters should be shot on sight.
Let’s all endorse putting a semi-automatic riffle in the hands of children and give them the authority to act as our police. Let’s jump right over anything that lays in between and declare all democrats endorse the de funding of police and are unconcerned with the rule of law when our constitution states otherwise.
I am an American that defends and supports the Constitution, I don’t defend and support a specific political party and I won’t support a president that doesn’t endorse the Constitution as well. Trump with his "lock em up’ rally chants certainly doesn’t support the rule of law, where the accused are presumed innocent, and entitled to the due process of law and a trail by peers. Just skip over all that and jump straight to incarceration. That’s how dumb some of Trumps support base is. They endorse the opposite of what America was founded for.
I just think that you have your party loyalties backward (which happens to be an intentional Marxist ploy - confuse and divide through hypocrisy - be the opposite of what you say). You very seriously should be supporting Mr Trump regardless of whether you like the fella. Just look at the alternative (which they constantly try to hide and get you to focus on something ELSE to hate).
I don’t have party loyalty. I am not a paying supporter of any political party, not republican, not democrat, not socialist, not communist. I agree with our first President and founding father George Washington, who had no political party affiliation. He thought for himself.
Trump is a moron doing the same thing. Look again, they are tactics right out of the Trump republican Pelosi democrat partisan political playbook. Paint the other side as an extremist. All of them should take about 10 giant steps toward the center. It is real easy for China or Russia to provide destabilization, both political parties are doing half the work for them.
“Lock em up” as a rally chant, as example, lets all forget due process, the presumption of innocence, the right to a trial, and actual evidence presented. Treason is a capital offense he’d just line up anyone that disagrees with him and shoot them. Life time incarceration comes with such a high cost and cuts into the profits.
Since Trump has been President we have become a nation practicing capital punishment again. While some may think that is a step in the right direction, I’m not inclined to the thinking it makes us a more perfect union.
Biden is nothing more then a short term solution to a current moron as President. It is a shame all America is left with the choice between which is the lesser evil, while both sides call the other evil. I’m thinking we could use a break from party politics and loyalty to anyone else’s thinking. It is actually a lot more complicated a puzzle then either party can allow to let on… It is so much easier for either party, if we are all dumb and uneducated and all just blindly follow a party line.
That is the opposite of what our founding fathers were trying to create and moves us as a nation further away from that thing called the blessing of Liberty.
I think that I am seeing more of what is really going on in your country than you are (understandably. You are in the fog of the war).
The phrase was “Lock HER up” referring to the criminal activities of Ms Clinton. Recently when speaking of the even more criminal activities of the socialist “Democrat” leaders and deep anti-American state, the chant became “Lock THEM up” referring specifically to FEDERAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL CRIMINALS.
Nearly 100% of the law enforcement groups throughout the entire US have backed Mr Trump even though most of them used to only back Democrats and many never back anyone. There is a reason for that. Mr Trump has time and time again exposed the criminality of the ANTI-American Left-wing Marxists/Socialists.
Mr Trump couldn’t be more pro-America if his life depended on it. And he has proven it (not merely preached ) time and time again with uncountable actions to defend the US Constitution from maligned socialist sabotage of that Constitution. That is why they promote such extreme hatred of him. They want GLOBAL domination, not an independent America.
You haven’t been allowed to SEE the evidence. They refuse to actually investigate it or hold anyone accountable other than Republican Trump supporters.
You really need to watch more of the Right leaning media to see what has really been going on (if they will still let you do that in the US. Twitter and Google/Facebook won’t). And I am not saying that the Right leaning media is ALL perfect. But they at least let you see an alternative side to the extreme Left leaning media so you can make up your own mind.
But all of this is beyond the Church vs State theme.
But then I could say, you are like a devout Christian praying to the devil to save you from that evil Jesus authoritarian. Or perhaps a devout Muslim pray to Israel to save you from that evil Mohammad.
Did you not read the rest of that post? I already said that except it wasn’t “anyone they want it to”. It was specifically pointed out (already exposed) people.
And again you are over focused on only one side, misinterpreting what they are saying.
On one side they chant at a peaceful rally LOCK THEM UP! - use the law.
On the other side (that you seem to ignore) they are chanting during a riot BURN IT DOWN! while they burn and loot property, attack and kill police, beatup and kill bystanders, burn police cars, tear down statues, defund the police, and claim that the USA is inherently racist and un-savable - “BURN IT ALL DOWN!” - including (and especially) the US Constitution - “NO LAWS!”
And YOU root for the second?
You really really really need to look at the only options there are. If you really like that Constitution, you are very seriously rooting for the wrong side in the war. This is Communism versus Constitutionalism. And you are rooting against the latter.
You are (with excellent rhetoric) trying to reason someone out of a position they arrived at through emotion.
That is why Trump. Trump is no more mister nice guy. Ironically the communists take this to mean “war,” because they are children, whereas it really means negotiation. You don’t require reason from the opposite side of the table to negociate. Like Mr President has proved with many an unhinged psycho out the other side of the world.
Communists, specially rank and file, want to eliminate us from the face of the Earth. We, on the other hand, simply require them to respect certain conditions. We have no need, desire, or would even, like, what kind of psycho thinks like that, desire their elimination.
The USofA has formulated a certain code of law, that is designed through careful design as well as trial and error, to protect only and above all freedom. These laws, will be respected.
Oh I pay attention, some of your remarks just aren’t worth responding to.
You could stand to pay a little more attention. You make all these generalizations but none of them is actually true of my position.
You suggest I get my news from a source other then Twitter and Facebook, I don’t even have a twitter or facebook account. You don’t bother to ask me, yet you have come to all these assumptions of what I am.
That is as much of a turn off as when Trump speaks, and every time you write a thought you convince me just that much more that you haven’t a clue regarding independent thinking, you just spew the conservative party lie.
You didn’t come up with any of that shit independently, straight out a parrot of Trump’s talking points, but he lies.
To me, Biden is a short term solution to the problem of a moron for a president. All of party politics is just par for the course. That’s the only thing that makes this nation un-saveable. We should burn it all down and start over with nothing but our Constitution. Get back to where is all began, because frankly, somewhere between then and now we’ve taken a lot of wrong turns along the way.
It hardly looks like a United States at all anymore. That’s where the idea of party loyalty has brought us. From this perspective neither political party has a clue how to build a union. Your position is no different.
Lucky for you I don’t think like a conservative… they would say, you aren’t a citizen, and as result you have no rights to the protections granted by our first amendment. You have no rights at all.