I reject communism... and why it won't matter to some....

to be clear I have rejected communism, literally a dozen times,
but to some that doesn’t matter… but more on that later…

we first have to be clear, what does Marx say, vs what Lenin and Stalin say…
for we must be clear what brand of Marxism or communism we are referring to…

when I say Marxism, that refers to what Marx himself believed in
and when I write communism, that is what Lenin and Stalin believed in…
and they are two distinct and separate beast…

so, unlike most here, I have actually read Marx… and recall, he spent most
of his professional career as a journalist…especially the New York Daily Tribune…
and so virtually all of his beliefs are listed in Newspapers… and what did Marx
believe in? things we today, would consider to be union beliefs… the 8 hour work day,
a 5 day working week, paid vacations, health care… the type of stuff that unions today
work on… that is the “Marxist” agenda… from Marx… if you read his stuff, what he wanted
and he specifically wrote about this, a man could work in one field in the morning,
say, then write newspapers editorials, in the afternoon… Marx wanted
man/human beings to become something more then just working robots… like the
factory worker who does one thing and one thing only, which is to bolt a tire onto
the car… that is his entire day, doing one thing… and this is quite common in
factory work and in such factory lite work like mine…

now for example was Marx right about the “state” withering away if the workers
were able to create a worker’s class? no, not all… the government will not
wither away in a worker’s class… that is simple wrong… and When Marx is wrong,
I am happy to say so…

let us compare this to the communism of Lenin and Stalin… they are much
more in line with what people think about communism… and I reject this
totally… for Marx comments on this, but Lenin and Stalin put the meat on
this belief… whereas the belief was the the entire basis of human civilization
lies in the economic… or in the, as Marx calls it, the substructure of human
existence…everything flows from the economic, that is the bottom line
of human existence… and I denounce this in the harshest terms possible…

this notion of the entire basis of human civilization lies at the heart of the
human experience also is the belief of the founder of capitalism, Adam Smith…
the founder of Marxism holds the exact same belief in the basis of the human
experience, as the founder of capitalism…

they begin in the exact same place…and I reject this… for in both,
human beings are simply small, small pieces of a much larger process
that has and will carry man/human beings into the future…
that in both capitalism and communism/Marxism, the workers simply
are pieces that cannot control or change the bottom line structure
of the human world, economically, in both capitalism and communism…

in other words, the reason I reject one is the reason I reject both…
the mass movement that is capitalism and that is communism does the
same thing to the average person… denies them their value as individuals…

note in capitalism, the actions of one person has no value of any kind…
it is completely irrelevant what one person does in capitalism… it makes no
difference because capitalism is about the mass movement of money and goods
in mass numbers across local, state, national and international lines…

and just as one person is irrelevant to capitalism, they are irrelevant to
communism/Marxism…we are simply pawns in a gigantic wave of movement
that dominates our lives in which we have no say or involvement in…the economics
that is the basis of both capitalism and communism is simply the denial of the human being
and their values… both capitalism and communism deny a human being their value,
as human beings… Both are nihilistic in the very sense of the world… and thus I reject
them…

a solution must engage both the large, the vast movement of money and goods
and the small, as one person… we must be able to see both the large and the small
in which we play a role in… and within capitalism and communism, the large
is engaged with, the small, the one individual is not engaged with… the individual
is denied as such… and the individual only has value as part of some super large
superstructure that is the home of both capitalism and communism…

let me repeat, I reject the communism of Lenin and Stalin and only accept
parts of Marxism, the labor union aspects of Marxism… I belief in those values
where human beings are treated as human beings… not as workers or units or
as only consumers, producers or workers… and that is the only value that
human beings have under both capitalism and communism…

now why won’t this matter to some? because they are not able to
cope with any idea’s outside of those idea’s/isms that they
must hold… they cannot do anything else but hold certain values
which cannot be challenged or changed…Observe and UR is always calling me
(and to be fair others) as commies and socialists and communists, but frankly this
says more about them, then it does about me/and the others…

they call/insult others because they themselves cannot adapt or change
their beliefs…they are fixed in their beliefs… and thus, they are no
different then dogs or cats or cows… dogs cannot change their instincts,
they are simply programed to respond to a situation only in one way,
and those like Ob and UR, gloom, wendy for example can only respond to
something in only one way…they are in fact, animals because they
have no flexibility or possibility of adapting or change in their lives…
have you seen any sort of change or adapting to any of their writings?

I haven’t seen any changes… and I won’t… because they are incapable of change or adaptation…
they are animals because of this inability to adapt or change their beliefs to
match the circumstances on the ground…they have no freedom to become something new…
or believe in something new… they simple cannot change their beliefs…
and that is nothing more then being a robot or an animal…

so I reject both communism and I reject capitalism… so what is left?

and that is what I am trying to find… the third way, the third path of
existence… it is there, we just have to find it…

Kropotkin

I read your whole post.
Thank you for clarifying.

K: I am ever engaged in a search for what it means to be human
and that search involves what it means to follow the path of
communism (which has its own standards of being human)
and capitalism which has it own standards of being human)

but there is a third way because both capitalism and communism
fail because they start in the exact same place… the function of
human beings is the value they find in being economic beings…
economic activity is the base of both capitalism and communism…
the substructure of all human activity is economic… not
value like love or hope or peace or even anger and hate, nope…
we find our value as human being within our economic activity…
that is the base of both the capitalistic and communistic systems…

and that is wrong… we find our values outside of just being economic
beings…we find our meaning of life outside of working and producing
and being a consumer… which is the base value of both capitalism and
communism… I am more then just a worker, a consumer, a producer…
as are you… but we must fight both capitalism and communism which
makes our highest value as a worker, producer and a consumer…
which is wrong…

Kropotkin

Agreed.
Religion was supposed to cover for that,
but it failed.
There is a big hole in society.