As to Hillary, he specifically promised to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate her, even though there was nothing to investigate. He did not appoint a special prosecutor.
So pood.
We’re having a global debate between the rational and irrational.
That really is the only war that exists.
You and I are on the rational side. So are others.
We just have to accept that this is a real war, a war of ideas (or lack thereof) and move from there.
Do you have access to a list of Trump’s campaign promises?
I remember cutting taxes(done), securing our border by building a wall(the financing was done, but Biden halted the walls completion), getting the US out of bad agreements(done), cutting regulations(done), pulling US out of long wars(done), not starting any unnecessary wars(done), incentivizing US companies to return their manufacturing to the US(done).
What did I miss?
Trump did try to bring about a special prosecutor to investigate both Clinton and Comey. The Justice department full of democratic supporters thwarted his efforts.
On one hand you people act as if Trump can do “anything,” above the law, and now that I show you that his political opponents were in a better position to do “anything” and did do “anything” as seen in the Clinton hired Steele Dossier and the illegal spying on the Trump campaign, you people will still act as if Trump was in the wrong, absolving yourself of the facts about Clinton’s dossier and the spying.
You smart, good people win, you have your Biden and he has your China too. Yay!
How many more democrat-fueled, trillion dollar economic bills can our broke country handle? May you win even more.
Wendy!
That’s funny.
I’ll only pick apart 2 of what you said.
Trump did reduce taxes for the ultra rich…
Which kept companies in the US.
He kept his promise.
Biden is working a plan to tax all (tariffs actually) on mega corporations that move outside the US.
Trump cut everyone’s taxes. Facts don’t care about your feelings of who the “real” beneficiaries were. Everyone benefitted.
The rich pay 85% of all taxes.
Wendy,
If trumps tax plan was so great. And we don’t need to get into the details. Why did wealth disparity sky rocket in his administration?
We all know that fact.
Are you going to blame that on the democrats?
Go for it, because I can get into the details.
But just answer that simple question the best you know how.
Are you getting your “facts” from media and academia supporting the agenda of the democrats? Part of the democrats agenda is to blame everything on Trump. You understand that, right?
Wendy,
That’s funny. I don’t have a political party.
But it’s a known fact that the higher your education level and IQ, that you’ll vote democratic.
You’re barking up the wrong tree on that one, unless you think scientific studies with millions of people are also conspiracies.
It’s even been proven that Democrats process information from the logical frontal lobes and Republicans process from the lizard part of our brain… I think it’s called the amygdala if I recall correctly… the part that processes information from fear.
Tens of thousands of brain scans.
You can look all this shit up.
As Phil Torres writes today at Salon
Wendy drinks the right-wing epistemological Kool-Aid. She belongs to the Trump Cult, every bit as sinister as that of Jim Jones. Wendy writes:
Yes. Do you?
Everything. You are simply wrong about everything.
His tax cuts were massively skewed toward the ultra-wealthy and blew a huge hole in the deficit you claim to care about. Biden halted further building of the wall, but Trump built only a few extra miles of it during his four years in office, and Mexico did not pay for it. Trump broke his promise to build a “great, big, beautiful wall” that Mexico would pay for. What “bad agreements” did Trump get us out of? Wendy doesn’t know. Wendy doesn’t know anything. He did cut some regulations, but so what? Lots of presidents cut regulations — sometimes with good results, sometimes with bad. He did not pull us out of long wars. He did not pull us out of Syria, Iraq, or Afghanistan. Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan, not Trump. It’s true he didn’t start any unnecessary wars, and I am glad for that. He did not incentivize U.S. companies to return to the U.S. They have not done so, so that is a lie. Plus you have ignored everything that I said above. You actually said that Trump kept all his campaign promises, and is the only president to do so. Both claims are false. Please go back and read my first post in which I enumerate all the ways in which Trump failed to keep his campaign promises, starting with his promise to repeal Obamacare and replace it with something better. Your ignorant worship of your Orange Idiot is disgusting, but you worship him because you live, as Torres notes, in a different epistemological regime in which facts do not matter, only Wendy’s darling little “feelings.”
In fact, if a further restructured narrative is required, then, let us suppose that while all this 'Trump vs. Biden search for the odds is going on, just perhaps, they are secretly hunkering down in some back room, laughing at the idiotic plume’de faire they intentionally created to smoke the mirror into a comic flair preparatory into the brave NWO.
Fun, fun, fun.
he didn’t actually reduce taxes for working people. he reduced withholdings which gave the appearance of it in the form of bigger paychecks…but then smaller returns at the end of the year. also the plan he passed which did that actually has scheduled tax hikes for the middle class built in.
Like I thought, you get your info from the democrat agenda.
No further need to continue this exchange.
You’re asleep. Carry on.
Wendy.
The “democratic agenda” Is socialist. Always has been.
You know?
Shit like roads. Shit like public schools. Shit like Medicare. Shit like social security. Shit like pensions. Shit like worker’s compensation. All of it.
You are so far gone Wendy.
Trump is trying to destroy democracy. He’s even trying to destroy the illusion of democracy.
What feelings do you have as you insult me?
Perhaps, you are doing it wrong. Try harder, dig deeper into your well of non-emotional insults, pretty please. [-o<
(Imagine I am the Emperor Palpatine)Unleash your hate further! Lay yourself bare for all to see. Trust me, it’ll be good for you(being on the darkside!).
I don’t know. I certainly think that he tried, given the political realities that he faced. I don’t think that any president in US history ever faced the kind of hatred, lies and even outright sedition that he faced.
What I meant was merely that the agenda Trump gave voice to before the election didn’t change significantly after he was elected. Which answered my pre-election concerns that he was really just another new york globalist billionaire elitist who was simply pretending to be a man of the people.
I’ll vote for whoever appears to me to be best able to further a Trump-style agenda.
Trump was changing the orientation of the Republican party away from being the party of big Wall Street business towards being the party of the American middle and working classes who actually wield votes. While that increased its attractiveness to voters, it angered a lot of interests who represent few votes but lots of campaign contributions and armies of lobbyists. There was a whole class of ostensible Republican elitists who felt things slipping from their grasp and fought back.
I expect that many of those will be voted out of office, since their voting records don’t really reflect the wishes of any large bloc of voters. Might take a while though. So the more populist wing of the Republicans will have to find common cause with the big-business/rich-persons wing of the party when that’s possible. The Democrats are in a similar situation where their moderate and radical elected representatives have to reach some agreement. We are at an interesting stage when the divisions within the parties are at least as large as the divisions between them.
I don’t think that parties are going anywhere. Even without parties there will still be ideologies and people will group around those so as to form what amount to parties.
What we are apt to see, and might be seeing as we speak, is a great reallignment of the parties. In the early 20th century in the UK, the two big parties were the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party. Then the Labour Party appeared, stole the Liberal Party’s working class support and reduced the Liberals to minor party status. (Analogous events on the British left to what I see happening today on the US right.) In the US, the last big reallignment was right before the Civil War when the Whigs disappeared and the Republicans appeared.
Assuming of course that the US continues as a democracy, something that’s looking increasingly questionable in my opinion.
Yazata wrote
I agree.
Yazata wrote
He did (or made every effort) to follow through on all his campaign promises, uncommon in politics.
Yazata wrote
I agree.
You mean - “assuming that the US restores democracy” - meaning they have to -
- Breakup social media monopolies
- Enforce anti-fraud voting laws (get rid of the Dominic voting machines)
- Prosecute criminal socialists
K; we will take from bottom to top…
Prosecute people who are socialists… according to Ob, anyone who doesn’t
follow Obser faith (and it is faith that obser engages with) anyone who doesn’t follow
oberserv faith is a criminal by definition…hence one is a criminal by lack faith
in the messiah…IQ45…one is a criminal who holds different beliefs then Observ…
two: enforcing voter fraud laws are already place and they work…this last
election every single voting expert said it was a very clean and fraud free
election… even the person IQ45 put in charge of voting (on the federal level)
said the election was clean and fraud free… and the machines you are thinking of
is dominion voting systems and they have sued every lawyer on IQ45 team including
Rudy for BILLIONS of dollars for suggesting the voting machines were
compromised in any way, shape or form…and in the discovery phase
we will be able to see just how clean these machines were… Dominion would not
have sued if they thought they might lose…
and finally social media companies, you have to make the connection between
those social media companies and democracy…
but of course you entirely missed the real actions that can help us
regain democracy… limit the power of corporations to influence/buy
politicians… it is the money that corporations have that has denied
us democracy in America… of course Oberve like all right wing
believers miss the basic facts that the problem isn’t the government…
it is corporations that own the government that is the problem…
the next step to reforming democracy is by eliminating
the massive income inequality we have in this country…
whereas 500 people own as much wealth as HALF the world does
put together… this is where democracy is having problems,
the wealthy is buying up entire governments… as the Kock
brothers have bought up a couple of state legislations,
including Wisconsin and the Dakota’s, Wyoming, and Kansas…
every single legislator in those states is bought and sold
by the Kock brothers…
you want to make democracy free… end the tyranny of money
in our democracy…
Kropotkin
Typical lying you.
I said to prosecute the criminal socialists - not all socialists (most are merely stupid). Socialists are anti-democratic and obtain their anti-democratic power largely through criminal behavior. So to restore democracy - the criminals involved in anti-democratic behavior (the socialists, unions, and monopolies - including corporate) must be countered and impugned. And no - that doesn’t mean all other criminals are to be set free (as the socialists have been doing to help obtain their power) - but it is specifically the anti-democrat criminals - the socialists - who must be prosecuted in order to restore some semblance of an actual democracy.
James S Saint used to stress the necessity of a verifying process in adding laws, to secure the intended power of the Constitution. It was a rather laborious process he had designed, but probably a good idea.
The US never had true equality, because of the way the justice system works; if you can afford an expensive lawyer you can largely keep out of jail, etc - also the principle of bail - freedom is largely bought at the justice level. Not universally so but largely.
This should really be at the core of a rational, nonMarxist socialism, the fight for equal distribution of law, but I dont think it’s even ever mentioned. Or is it? I think Marx kind of obscured these issues. Jeez, Marx. Did anyone read him here?
His argument is as follows; use value and exchange value are not linearily related, therefore neither really exists. Therefore there is only the value of labour.
Actually. Thats what he says.