Along with free trade agreements, open borders, corporatism, this political correctness nation states from Canada to Italy are adopting, this homogenizing of nations, all prep for globalism, but still not globalism, it’s quasi-globalism or globalization.
Yea liberalism is a funny word.
I think a name’s meaning oughta bear a resemblance to its etymology, so I use liberalism to mean, not libertarian, but libertarian leaning.
The globalists calling themselves liberals are butchering the word.
Trump for instance is far more liberal than his opposition.
Then liberalism can be combined with various things, like liberal conservatism, liberal populism, liberal progressivism, as opposed to authoritarian conservatism, authoritarian populism and authoritarian progressivism.
Liberal progressivism for example means little or some progressive intervention in socioeconomic life, not a lot.
I am not seeing any difference between your proposed WU and the current UN (that was my point).
That - the globalization of the UN - is what the last 20 years has been about - it is already “devolving” into that WU - and it is doing it by designs that are about 80 years in the make. The original plans were apparently a 100 year conversion (China bragged on it) and they appear to be exactly on track now that they got Mr Trump out of the way.
That term hurts my brain - I guess you mean maybe “loose conservatism” or “left leaning”. 
No I don’t mean progressive conservatism.
Liberal Conservatism: Gays shouldn’t have the same marriage or adoption rights.
Conservatism: Gays should be fined or jailed.
Authoritarian Conservatism: Gays should be executed.
We agreed conservatism means keep the socioeconomy as is, or, restore it to the way it was.
Well, that’s what we use to do with gays.
For you, conservatism and liberalism are like two different ways of saying the same thing, conserve liberalism.
For me, yea you can conserve liberalism, from progressivism, Marxism and globalism, or you can go back further to when queers were marginalized, or back further to when they were fined, jailed or executed.
I’m not saying that’s what I want to do, I’d be content with gays not having the same marriage and adoption rights, altho it’s not an important issue for me, I’m just saying
that conservatism isn’t necessarily synonymous with liberalism, even in English speaking countries, unless you’re using conservatism very narrowly to mean how things are or were a few decades ago in English speaking countries, which admittedly is the way most English speakers use it these days, but that’s not how I use it.
Joseph de Maistre was a conservative, but he was no liberal.
Political and economic conservatism, is that a democratic republic and capitalism?
Sure, but it could also be about protecting or restoring the supremacy of the royal family and gentry in the commonwealth, the house of lords and the power of the governor general to appoint the senate in Canada.
Yea I figured as much.
I read this conspiracy theory about Albert Pike.
He supposedly predicted something far more globalistic and totalitarian than the UN would form after WW3, the way the UN formed after WW2 and the league of nations after WW1.
Anyway, just a thought experiment, at this point they probably don’t need a new entity, the UN is already devolving into world government.
Since they mean to do away with the nation state altogether, in the future they may give the UN a new name, like the World Union.
The pundits on the Conservative-Right keep prematurely declaring “we’re winning! they’re scared!” but I don’t think so. I disagree.
They’re losing (those pundits). America is losing, badly. We are losing. The “American Giant” is under attack, but still groggy, tired, and trying to get out of bed.
Waking up from the “American Dream”, the delusion, takes time. It could be too late by that time. (The house is on fire!)
The more discord, chaos, rioting, violence, fear, paranoia, hatred they (the Davos Group / UN) can stir-up, in USA and around the world, the better it is for them. Thus, it doesn’t matter (to them) if Australia makes Concentration Camps for the Aboriginals. This is just the beginning, and there is no significant Resistance. The world is apathetic, and they know it. So pressure will continue. “The beatings will continue, until Morale improves.” As the saying goes.
When nations collapse (when, not IF) then they will swoop in as the newly organized United Nations, and pretend to be the “good guys”, the Morally elite. Lecturing the rest of the world, “How could you all let this happen?!” when they were the ones who orchestrated the whole circus. This will legitimize their Military power and armies they hope to assemble. Then those armies will unite under singular banners.
They want Civil War in the United States. And at this rate, they’ll get it sooner than later.
Is capitalism, conservatism?
In one sense it is, in another sense it’s (conserving) economic liberalism.
Is free trade conservatism?
Is allowing manufacturing jobs working and lower middle class families depend on to be offshored to China and Mexico conservatism?
Is being dependent on China conservatism?
Or is protectionism conservatism?
In another sense, Mussolini’s class collaboration is conservatism, or government intervening, not to overturn socioeconomic hierarchies, but to preserve and strengthen them, ironing out the kinks and imbalances, as opposed to the top-down class warfare of corporatism or the bottom-up class warfare of socialism.
Also see paternalistic conservatism.
In another sense, distributism is conservatism.
Conservatism: No border, No nation.
This is why Liberals are pulling in millions of illegals. It is the antithesis of Conservatism. These people are begging for war, and they will very likely get it.
Conservatism is anti-Globalism, anti-Internationalism.
Globalists have no allegiance to borders; when Conservatives have all allegiance to them.
Right, illegal immigration, or mass legal immigration for that matter, is the antithesis of conservatism, yet both shitlibs and neocons support it, yet curiously both the populist right and the populist left oppose it, sometimes for different reasons.
What is mass immigration and mass offshoring, conserve?
Nothing, it’s liberalism, not conservatism.
The Second US Civil War: A Probability
Imagine 2024.
Trump dominates and leads the polls.
The Moderates fully reject the liberal/Dem agenda.
As the Election comes closer, the Far-Left panics.
An Assassination Attempt
If not during the election, then afterward,
If not successful, then at least attempted,
Let’s assume Trump is assassinated, by whom?
The CCP, who stands to lose from a $1 trillion trade embargo?
The Govt Deep State, who are aligned with Davos and World Economic Forum?
The Radical Left, who suffer from mania, paranoia, and believe he is “Second Hitler”?
Perhaps a combination of the above,
What will happen then?
Will not the Far-Right mobilize and arm themselves?
Will not political assassinations start occurring monthly?
Will not States, dem and repub, both declare Secession?
It’s not a stretch of the imagination…
Like with the Russian Revolution.
When men have more to lose than gain, they will not go to war.
If they are convinced that they have nothing to lose, or if they think they have more to gain than lose they go to war.
Poverty will increase…the American way of life will decline.
That’s when desperation and degeneration will become unbearable.
Biden threatens Putin, with his staff of queers:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw0ypSr1SGY[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMl2tmFTdnw[/youtube]
.@Gloominary, “Populist, Nationalist, Traditionalist” at the 2:30 minute mark:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4yMWgBxbpo[/youtube]
If Trump is alive and in good health in 2024, he may run again.
If reps manage to prevent dems from rigging the election, independents see through the fake or overblown virus and Biden’s empty promises to help the working class, Trump may win.
If Trump wins, blue states may secede.
If they secede, Trump may let them go, or go to war with them.
If he goes to war with them, he’ll have the advantage, because he’ll have the federal military and nukes in addition to red and swing state militaries, they’ll just have blue state militaries.
Nonetheless war won’t be a good outcome for anyone, if they secede, he should just let them go.
If they don’t secede, dems will spend the next 4 years gaslighting the public, sowing discord (anarcho-tyranny) and possibly making attempts on Trump’s life.
The level of discord will be much, much worse than it was in 2020, rioting, looting, sophisticated globalist/corporatist terrorism, possibly masquerading as the ‘far right’, unsophisticated anarchist and Marxist terrorism, urban warfare between far left and and rightwing militias, more fake, overblown and manufactured crises like the plandemic.
At some point, Trump may be forced to declare martial law.
Dems will say ‘see, we told you he’s a dictator’!
‘Look, he’s putting BLM in camps’!
Hopefully Americans see through this and continue to vote for rightwing populists, and leftwing populists like Tulsi Gabbard.
If they do see through it, America has an opportunity to take back its country, but it’ll be an uphill battle.
Trump has mafia connections, if they make an attempt on his life, if they fail, he may retaliate, if they succeed, his sons may retaliate, or they may not, the Kennedys didn’t.
If Americans don’t see through all this, they’ll continue to lose their country to the globalists.
Blue states will never secede - they can’t afford it and haven’t courage - they are cowardly socialists requiring other people’s money and protection - they would go bankrupt immediately. If there is any seceding - it’ll have to be by the red states.
True but this time - Mr Trump (and company) understands just how devious they are and will compensate accordingly - most likely not with military. Mr Trump naively thought the Dems were American - now he knows better.
That was always fake news. They accused Mr Trump of having mob connections because of their own mob collusion - mostly through Gov Cuomo and the fact that Mr Guilliani used to put mob bosses in jail.