Is the Russian-Ukrainian War the prelude to a new World War?

K: the reason I think alf is from another country is that he always refer to America
and American’s in the third person… he doesn’t say, “We Americans”
he says: “The US-Americans are so arrogant”… that is why I think he is from
another country… which I don’t care about as long as he identified himself
as such… unlike that poser UR who still claims to be an American even after
he admitted living in another country…

Kropotkin

There is another answer to the quiz.
The framing of the quiz is just the sort of dumb minded stupidity that causes wars in the first place; childish side-taking.

I’m on the side of ordinary people in fear of their lives, and those that are really going to suffer from the destruction and the sanctions.
I do not give a rats arse for Putin or Zelensky or US/EU who have been playing games since 2014.

The quiz is a test.

Now the most important two questions on this subject of suffering:

1.) Who will suffer the most from the sanctions as a result?
Answer: All those whose assets are less than one billion U.S. dollars. And consequently, those who have the least assets will suffer the most.

2.) Who is to blame for this disaster of suffering?
Answer: All those whose wealth is more than one billion US dollars. That’s the private side, which affects people from the digital-financial complex. And on the public government side, it’s just the states that have the most government power. The US has had the most power since the end of World War 2! In addition, the digital-financial complex resides mainly in the USA and has made the public government side dependent on it, and since this takes place mainly in the USA, the respective government of the USA is affected by the blame for the disaster to a much higher degree than it already is without the influence of the digital-financial complex.

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A bit of ethics.

In the Anglophone countries (the so-called “5 Eyes”) the mendacious, dishonest moral is that you never have to have a guilty conscience because “you are good” ( :question: :-k :question:), you are “in God’s own country” ( :question: :-k :question:). What an insane presumption ( :blush: )! In the rest of the world it is exactly the opposite: not mendacious, but honest. There, you are only good if you have examined your conscience before every action and are sure that it is a good conscience.

This refers, as I said, to the morals, the ethics of certain countries. This does not mean that every person acts exactly according to these moral, ethical rules in the respective country; but it means that these rules are predominant in the respective country.

We would do well to bring the moral, ethical rules in Anglophone countries (“5 Eyes”) in line with the moral, ethical rules in the rest of the world.

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Alf: The quiz is a test.
Now the most important two questions on this subject of suffering:
1.) Who will suffer the most from the sanctions as a result?
Answer: All those whose assets are less than one billion U.S. dollars. And consequently, those who have the least assets will suffer the most.

K: and your evidence for this is, what exactly?
and in which state/country will this suffering occur in?
I see the billionaires in Russia, being hurt financially,
so be a little bit clearer in your very broad strokes about suffering…

2.) Who is to blame for this disaster of suffering?
Answer: All those whose wealth is more than one billion US dollars. That’s the private side, which affects people from the digital-financial complex. And on the public government side, it’s just the states that have the most government power. The US has had the most power since the end of World War 2! In addition, the digital-financial complex resides mainly in the USA and has made the public government side dependent on it, and since this takes place mainly in the USA, the respective government of the USA is affected by the blame for the disaster to a much higher degree than it already is without the influence of the digital-financial complex.

K: and here you seem to have a two part blame…first those with a billion dollars,
and governments/states with the most power… and you specifically name the U.S…
both of which seems to me, anyway, to brush a rather broad stroke of
responsibility… you have specifically named someone named Klaus Schwab as
a player in the new world order… he isn’t an American, I checked, and he isn’t
worth a billion dollars, if he is to blame for the “new world order” then
why haven’t you blamed him for the Russian-Ukrainian war? You seem to blame
him for everything else… and therein lies the real problem…

you have spread the blame about, but you haven’t offer us any sort of solution
to the problem… instead of telling us the world is fucked up, (which we knew already)
how about offering us some solutions to these problems… you have offered up a problem
without any type of solutions…

Kropotkin

It is useless to talk to you. You are really too stupid - just IQ 3 or even less!

I don’t feel like wasting my time on such a stupid person.

K: so, no, you believe there are no solutions… just say so…
I hold differently… every problem has a solution

BTW, claiming that I am “too stupid to talk to” really says a whole
lot more about you then it does about me…

fun fact; Forrest Gump IQ is 75…any lower and he wouldn’t be
able to communicate… that happens with people who have
a low IQ… they are unable to communicate…

Kropotkin

Yes, it is. This world war can be prevented, but that it will happen is less likely than the reverse.

This is the result of the end of World War II.

USA imported many German-Nazi scientists and doctors (Eugenicists), along with masses of European Jewry. These immigrants have had a disproportionate amount of political sway and influence for the past 50 years, especially in Mass Media (Propaganda) as most of the influx Jews to the United States, sent their children to Journalism in most Universities and Colleges in the 1990s. These are ideologically driven people with specific motives.

The motivation: Nationalism and Socialism are ‘bad’, ‘wrong’, and ‘evil’ (except when “we” do it!!!).

This has resulted in the radicalization of the American Liberal-Left, and results in the politics as we see now as of April 1st, 2022. Nationalism is “wrong”, unless you are a Zionist. Socialism is “wrong”, unless you are a Democrat. Racism is “wrong”, unless you are a Liberal Elitist like Nancy Pelosi, living in a gated community that expels minorities and poor people.

It was never that Nationalism, Socialism, or National-Socialism was wrong in a Moral Sense—it was always a matter of who (which privileged groups) are “allowed” to partake in its Benefits, and without shame and guilt.

I believe it’s a much more complex situation.

Russia captured US Bioweapon Labs early on, as a primary objective. So they clearly fear another Bioweapon released against them. Because other Nations around the world feel the same way, Russia and the “Old World” now have a legitimate world grievance that is being addressed.

US has severely declined in world Legitimacy. Because Liberal-Leftist-Democrats (like Kropotkin) are blind to these, common sense observations, USA will continue to decline for the foreseeable future.

It’s not even a question, “Would Russia had done it if Trump were re-elected”, no, because of Trump’s views against NATO, which Putin agrees with.

NATO, the WEF, and Klaus Schwab Globalists have exposed themselves. Europeans are also in a weaker state as a result. The world doesn’t want Transexual faggotry pushed onto their children, nor does the world population want mandated experimental gene-modifying “vaccines” forced into their blood. The peons of the world are agitated about the openness of their new “Transhuman” slavery. People will rebel.

That’s right, world politics is shifting as a result of what you mentioned.

When people are stripped of everything, and Europeans of their Nationalism and Socialism (their Ethnic identity), then conflict becomes inevitable.

Simply observe Ukraine as evidence and proof, a Nation “created” by Klaus Schwab, USA CIA, George Soros, and Israel.

That’s the way I view the situation too… wars are mindless machines of death and destruction, and yet they still exist and are waged.

May it end soon, so that those affected can get back to their lives.

Excellent talks/videos… very astute points being made. Keep the world in a constant state of warring, by pitting nation against nation against nation, by using any ‘insidious’ means necessary.

USA… the great power-hungry power-grabber, when all people wanna do is be living their best/contented life. Not a big want/ask, is it… and yet the USA makes it be.

Nation against nation, ethnic group against ethnic group, right against left, non-whites against whites, Muslims against Christians, women against men, young against old, foreigners against nationals, vaccinated against unvaccinated, Putin-understanders against Ukraine-Nazi-supporters, climate lie against the truth, liars and corrupt (conspirators) against the truth enlighteners like real historians (recently branded as conspiracy theorists). All are to be brought by means of fear that they agree to the largest dictatorship of the world history or, if they do not do that, are killed, if they are not already dead by vaccination, war and every kind of chaos anyway.

The following graphic shows roughly how the balance of power is distributed.

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It is easy to find out who has the most to say. Money has always been the most powerful. Since the 1970s, however, the digital complex has been added, and since the 1990s, partly due to the internet, it has become as powerful as Black Rock, the most powerful asset management of the financial complex. Politics has always been bought and therefore susceptible to blackmail.

Now, moreover, at least 99% of all people are losing their self-determination because they have to leave all their money and all their data to the globalist rulers.

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German rocket scientists (aerospace engineers): Wernher von Braun and his team at Fort Bliss, Texas, USA, 1945. Abducted and blackmailed (many of them were in the NSDAP and SS, e.g. also Wernher von Braun).

I hope that people will rebel. But the globalists go relatively slowly, so slowly that people don’t notice the fraud (although people like Peter Kropotkin and many others would never notice the fraud anyway). At some point the bag will be closed. Then it is too late for a rebellion (see: Kropotkin again - but this time the real, the historical one: Pyotr Kropotkin - and other communists who did not notice how the others, the more intelligent totalitarians, took them by surprise).

Truth dies first. Hope dies last.

We must enlighten the masses!
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Power relations in the years 2000 and 2020 in comparison:

2000:


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Which 4 of the today’s global players have increased the most in percentage terms in the 20 years from 2000 to 2020? (1.) Digital Financial Complex of the West; (2.) People’s Republic of China; (3.) India; (4.) Russia. :sunglasses:

How does this fit with what we are observing right now in the Russian-Ukrainian war and in the signs that China is giving off? Well, we have Ukraine and the West supporting Ukraine materially and financially on the one side and Russia and China supporting Russia economically (see contracts for the supply of natural gas, oil and raw materials to China and the settlement of this business in roubles and yuan) on the other side, which will probably be joined in the future, if the war drags on, by Iran, Pakistan, perhaps also India. In addition, the West’s Digital Finance Complex has made asset management deals with China. :astonished:

The question of which side of the two warring parties one is on is therefore related to many other problems and constellations. Particularly problematic is the assignment of the West’s Digital Finance Complex, which by no means necessarily has to be found on the Western side alone, perhaps even more on the anti-Western side, but perhaps not.

Rather Simply:

One.

WWIi major strategic recipient come the richest: axiomatically took Brittania’s role as empire leadr; although with an almost unnoticeable twist. The populace was unaware of the implication of hidden utilitisati8n of Marx’s edict: Diminishing Returns.

That very subtly unseasonably menu was augmented with an unnoticed corollary that economic social justice and stasis, are inversely proportional and the slipping middle class could only be buoyed up with increasing deviation from morally justified actions; thereby creating of larger inherent gaps between ethical-moral disarray.

That about the idea of US hegemony.

Two.

The geopolitical consequences following WWI having slipped over the interim to WWI, unnoticeable and creatively (Madison Avenue’s slingo- the media is the message) created an unavoidable slippery slope off of which no strawman can regain his balance indefinitely as the hyperbolic Camus subscribes to. So here we are at the tip, but not before the unnoticeable jump from reason through the well advertised loss of a dialectic, reduced to the loss of innocence. This third step should actually be put into account between the worl wars previous; and that could have avoided the semblance of a total loss of innocence.

Three.

That this structural, existential triad is what’s making the air smell fowl, no one actually can wrap their mind around, because everyone myopically inclined . is putting blinders on their favorite horse, to guess the winner of the daily double , for the winner of a single race’s payout has incrementally low odds.

What does this confusing state of global affairs really boil down to?
That a US myopia about a global capital cannot be guaranteed, sans a real opposition; and a virtual opponent looses ground as soon as the realization sets in through such induced myopia morphing into critical scotophobia.

The introduction and suspiciously sudden transformation from socially benign organizations to one’s that use that image for profeteering reasons, knocks the socks off of empire builders and those who have something to gain by it-- even if they join for not being able to beat it. (Kind of like 'those who can not learn from history are condemned to endure the obscenety of witnessing the beating of the poor horse in the market place)

The familial transhuman experiment hinges on the far vaster international corporate relations , with which visionaries thought to forget unavoidable linkage with, based on pragmatically utilized forms; which could sustain major emerging international markets with the familiarity buil in to hege any meaningful difference- as newer and kinder firms of economic competition would overtake and replace those predicated at the close of the 19 th century.

But the current facts do not bear out such. A need to structural change is, of the essence, with that of the time that appear to inversely affect it’s rate of change.

If I could still vote, I would vote for Ukrain , in order to bring the odds up to a fairer exchange and a more equitable hope for some reasonable compromise. But perhaps the time expired per qualification of the author.

I can only mirror that sentiment…

When people start fighting over which pile of shit smells worse, some start suggesting one of them smells of roses to win the argument… it’s a tragic state of affairs.

I do to but like ordinary people having to carry on and primarily the support of their immediate families in mind, the must carry on denying anything going on that’s beyond ordinary.

It is an ironic twist that even if our hearts are with them, that will not feed their palate, nor change the course of history, as that only those can who have say in the matter. So the inequity does smell as the roses mask those while the sight and sound of what really matters is left dumbfounded.

So the choice is difficult to impossible to make.And there are no ordinary people left who have not been changed by conflicts primarily relegated to them.

I can appreciate turning a blind eye to the loss of life you are powerless to prevent and distracting yourself with some high minded, abstract construct… but when you wear the corpses of the dead on your hand and have them speak to your political point like a ventriloquist… I no longer believe you’re distracting yourself from the horror show, but rather seeking profit in it, like a vulture.

It’s not that we owe the power to distract the blinders put upon or the grass roots leadership to facilitate horrors, but the stench is irrevocably disgusting, nevertheless. It can only reduce to each man’s conscience.