Is the Russian-Ukrainian War the prelude to a new World War?

Yes, it is. This world war can be prevented, but that it will happen is less likely than the reverse.

This is the result of the end of World War II.

USA imported many German-Nazi scientists and doctors (Eugenicists), along with masses of European Jewry. These immigrants have had a disproportionate amount of political sway and influence for the past 50 years, especially in Mass Media (Propaganda) as most of the influx Jews to the United States, sent their children to Journalism in most Universities and Colleges in the 1990s. These are ideologically driven people with specific motives.

The motivation: Nationalism and Socialism are ‘bad’, ‘wrong’, and ‘evil’ (except when “we” do it!!!).

This has resulted in the radicalization of the American Liberal-Left, and results in the politics as we see now as of April 1st, 2022. Nationalism is “wrong”, unless you are a Zionist. Socialism is “wrong”, unless you are a Democrat. Racism is “wrong”, unless you are a Liberal Elitist like Nancy Pelosi, living in a gated community that expels minorities and poor people.

It was never that Nationalism, Socialism, or National-Socialism was wrong in a Moral Sense—it was always a matter of who (which privileged groups) are “allowed” to partake in its Benefits, and without shame and guilt.

I believe it’s a much more complex situation.

Russia captured US Bioweapon Labs early on, as a primary objective. So they clearly fear another Bioweapon released against them. Because other Nations around the world feel the same way, Russia and the “Old World” now have a legitimate world grievance that is being addressed.

US has severely declined in world Legitimacy. Because Liberal-Leftist-Democrats (like Kropotkin) are blind to these, common sense observations, USA will continue to decline for the foreseeable future.

It’s not even a question, “Would Russia had done it if Trump were re-elected”, no, because of Trump’s views against NATO, which Putin agrees with.

NATO, the WEF, and Klaus Schwab Globalists have exposed themselves. Europeans are also in a weaker state as a result. The world doesn’t want Transexual faggotry pushed onto their children, nor does the world population want mandated experimental gene-modifying “vaccines” forced into their blood. The peons of the world are agitated about the openness of their new “Transhuman” slavery. People will rebel.

That’s right, world politics is shifting as a result of what you mentioned.

When people are stripped of everything, and Europeans of their Nationalism and Socialism (their Ethnic identity), then conflict becomes inevitable.

Simply observe Ukraine as evidence and proof, a Nation “created” by Klaus Schwab, USA CIA, George Soros, and Israel.

That’s the way I view the situation too… wars are mindless machines of death and destruction, and yet they still exist and are waged.

May it end soon, so that those affected can get back to their lives.

Excellent talks/videos… very astute points being made. Keep the world in a constant state of warring, by pitting nation against nation against nation, by using any ‘insidious’ means necessary.

USA… the great power-hungry power-grabber, when all people wanna do is be living their best/contented life. Not a big want/ask, is it… and yet the USA makes it be.

Nation against nation, ethnic group against ethnic group, right against left, non-whites against whites, Muslims against Christians, women against men, young against old, foreigners against nationals, vaccinated against unvaccinated, Putin-understanders against Ukraine-Nazi-supporters, climate lie against the truth, liars and corrupt (conspirators) against the truth enlighteners like real historians (recently branded as conspiracy theorists). All are to be brought by means of fear that they agree to the largest dictatorship of the world history or, if they do not do that, are killed, if they are not already dead by vaccination, war and every kind of chaos anyway.

The following graphic shows roughly how the balance of power is distributed.

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It is easy to find out who has the most to say. Money has always been the most powerful. Since the 1970s, however, the digital complex has been added, and since the 1990s, partly due to the internet, it has become as powerful as Black Rock, the most powerful asset management of the financial complex. Politics has always been bought and therefore susceptible to blackmail.

Now, moreover, at least 99% of all people are losing their self-determination because they have to leave all their money and all their data to the globalist rulers.

“Operation Overlord” - one of many examples:


German rocket scientists (aerospace engineers): Wernher von Braun and his team at Fort Bliss, Texas, USA, 1945. Abducted and blackmailed (many of them were in the NSDAP and SS, e.g. also Wernher von Braun).

I hope that people will rebel. But the globalists go relatively slowly, so slowly that people don’t notice the fraud (although people like Peter Kropotkin and many others would never notice the fraud anyway). At some point the bag will be closed. Then it is too late for a rebellion (see: Kropotkin again - but this time the real, the historical one: Pyotr Kropotkin - and other communists who did not notice how the others, the more intelligent totalitarians, took them by surprise).

Truth dies first. Hope dies last.

We must enlighten the masses!
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Power relations in the years 2000 and 2020 in comparison:

2000:


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Which 4 of the today’s global players have increased the most in percentage terms in the 20 years from 2000 to 2020? (1.) Digital Financial Complex of the West; (2.) People’s Republic of China; (3.) India; (4.) Russia. :sunglasses:

How does this fit with what we are observing right now in the Russian-Ukrainian war and in the signs that China is giving off? Well, we have Ukraine and the West supporting Ukraine materially and financially on the one side and Russia and China supporting Russia economically (see contracts for the supply of natural gas, oil and raw materials to China and the settlement of this business in roubles and yuan) on the other side, which will probably be joined in the future, if the war drags on, by Iran, Pakistan, perhaps also India. In addition, the West’s Digital Finance Complex has made asset management deals with China. :astonished:

The question of which side of the two warring parties one is on is therefore related to many other problems and constellations. Particularly problematic is the assignment of the West’s Digital Finance Complex, which by no means necessarily has to be found on the Western side alone, perhaps even more on the anti-Western side, but perhaps not.

Rather Simply:

One.

WWIi major strategic recipient come the richest: axiomatically took Brittania’s role as empire leadr; although with an almost unnoticeable twist. The populace was unaware of the implication of hidden utilitisati8n of Marx’s edict: Diminishing Returns.

That very subtly unseasonably menu was augmented with an unnoticed corollary that economic social justice and stasis, are inversely proportional and the slipping middle class could only be buoyed up with increasing deviation from morally justified actions; thereby creating of larger inherent gaps between ethical-moral disarray.

That about the idea of US hegemony.

Two.

The geopolitical consequences following WWI having slipped over the interim to WWI, unnoticeable and creatively (Madison Avenue’s slingo- the media is the message) created an unavoidable slippery slope off of which no strawman can regain his balance indefinitely as the hyperbolic Camus subscribes to. So here we are at the tip, but not before the unnoticeable jump from reason through the well advertised loss of a dialectic, reduced to the loss of innocence. This third step should actually be put into account between the worl wars previous; and that could have avoided the semblance of a total loss of innocence.

Three.

That this structural, existential triad is what’s making the air smell fowl, no one actually can wrap their mind around, because everyone myopically inclined . is putting blinders on their favorite horse, to guess the winner of the daily double , for the winner of a single race’s payout has incrementally low odds.

What does this confusing state of global affairs really boil down to?
That a US myopia about a global capital cannot be guaranteed, sans a real opposition; and a virtual opponent looses ground as soon as the realization sets in through such induced myopia morphing into critical scotophobia.

The introduction and suspiciously sudden transformation from socially benign organizations to one’s that use that image for profeteering reasons, knocks the socks off of empire builders and those who have something to gain by it-- even if they join for not being able to beat it. (Kind of like 'those who can not learn from history are condemned to endure the obscenety of witnessing the beating of the poor horse in the market place)

The familial transhuman experiment hinges on the far vaster international corporate relations , with which visionaries thought to forget unavoidable linkage with, based on pragmatically utilized forms; which could sustain major emerging international markets with the familiarity buil in to hege any meaningful difference- as newer and kinder firms of economic competition would overtake and replace those predicated at the close of the 19 th century.

But the current facts do not bear out such. A need to structural change is, of the essence, with that of the time that appear to inversely affect it’s rate of change.

If I could still vote, I would vote for Ukrain , in order to bring the odds up to a fairer exchange and a more equitable hope for some reasonable compromise. But perhaps the time expired per qualification of the author.

I can only mirror that sentiment…

When people start fighting over which pile of shit smells worse, some start suggesting one of them smells of roses to win the argument… it’s a tragic state of affairs.

I do to but like ordinary people having to carry on and primarily the support of their immediate families in mind, the must carry on denying anything going on that’s beyond ordinary.

It is an ironic twist that even if our hearts are with them, that will not feed their palate, nor change the course of history, as that only those can who have say in the matter. So the inequity does smell as the roses mask those while the sight and sound of what really matters is left dumbfounded.

So the choice is difficult to impossible to make.And there are no ordinary people left who have not been changed by conflicts primarily relegated to them.

I can appreciate turning a blind eye to the loss of life you are powerless to prevent and distracting yourself with some high minded, abstract construct… but when you wear the corpses of the dead on your hand and have them speak to your political point like a ventriloquist… I no longer believe you’re distracting yourself from the horror show, but rather seeking profit in it, like a vulture.

It’s not that we owe the power to distract the blinders put upon or the grass roots leadership to facilitate horrors, but the stench is irrevocably disgusting, nevertheless. It can only reduce to each man’s conscience.

I think that the Digital Financial Complex of the West shows us a sign of weakness.

Source: ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop … 5#p2868835 .

The growing ‘signs’ of growing symptoms of progressive disclosures that are nearing the ‘core’ of " intrlligence’.

"(CNN)Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told CNN’s Jim Sciutto on Tuesday that the entire “global international security order” put in place after World War II is at stake if Russia gets away “cost-free” following its invasion of Ukraine.

The top US general spoke exclusively to CNN at the conclusion of a meeting hosted by Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin with allied countries at Ramstein Air Base in Germany. Austin gathered the countries to discuss the current situation in Ukraine.

“If this is left to stand, if there is no answer to this aggression, if Russia gets away with this cost-free, then so goes the so-called international order, and if that happens, then we’re entering into an era of seriously increased instability,” Milley said."

There are several errors in these statements.

1.) It is a historically proven fact that nations have often been provoked until they had no other recourse but to strike back. To then call this “invasion” shows a lack of knowledge of history and a lack of knowledge of human nature.

2.) The “global international security order” created after World War II, of which Milley speaks, is after all that of the so-called “Cold War”, i.e., the most horrific of the stellar wars (preferably on territories outside the Western bloc and the Eastern bloc).

3.) A “so-called international order” can therefore not perish at all. Because Milley means the so-called “global international security order” of the so-called “Cold War” (see: 2.)), and this was now guaranteed no “order”, but a disorder, namely the very disorderly proxy wars - mostly in the “Third World”.

These three mistakes are serious mistakes, but of course the brainwashed don’t notice them, and Milley’s whole “argumentation” is based on these mistakes, so it is propaganda, and since Milley knows or at least can know these mistakes, it is a lying propaganda: he says wrong things on purpose.

I am not saying this because I am pro-Russia. True, I am not in favor of Ukraine either. But I am for justice. And it is a fact that NATO has been militarily supporting Ukraine’s provocations since 2004, or at the latest since 2014, in order to force Russia to go to war, in order to be able to change the government, from which the United States can then - once again - profit.

The Digital-Financial Complex of the West (mentioned by Alf) is the ruler of the world to which all other global players must listen, including the Military Complex of the West. The states of the West are no longer sovereign. In the East it is different.

Putin has done a lot in the first years since the beginning of his presidency in 2000 to be able to do business with the West. The West has arrogantly rejected Putin - there was one exception: the German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder; but he has also had to pay dearly for this: Vote of no confidence and subsequent loss of his chancellorship, because no other party wanted to form a coalition with the SPD anymore (good job, secret service!). Behind all this is the geostrategy that has been existing since the 19th century: Preventing an alliance between Germany and Russia at any price (that’s why Nord Stream 2 has been abandoned now).

After it became clear to Putin that he would not be able to do anything with Europe - i.e.: Germany - he turned to China. Does Milley, does Biden or anyone else in the USA seriously believe that the sanctions will hit Russia or China so hard that they will capitulate? — Europe has to pay the whole bill once again!

My implication was right with You, until the no sides affirmation was made. A neutrality is impossible nowedays , as can be ascertained from all the 'neutral 'countries showing otherwise (Benelux and Switzerland)

As far as propaganda goes, there the thin line between fact and fiction is near to the imperishable mark.

So, can’t blame Miley for putting his heart to the right place.

“Benelux” means: Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg. These three countries were and are militarily NOT neutral.

Switzerland is still militarily neutral. Or have you heard anything about Switzerland joining NATO? I hope not, because that would really be a case of war!

Probably you meant Sweden and Finland. Don’t you? But even these two are FORCED to give up their military neutrality. This happens NOT FREELY.

Who is to blame when one side constantly provokes in order to finally have the war, so that a regime change can once again be made in enemy territory: the provoked or the provoker?

If I’m asking you this, it’s not because you’re an U.S. citizen, but because you’re posting in a forum that’s supposed to be about philosophy.

Have a nice day, by the way.