Absolute Velocity

Real experiments? What the ones where you claim it takes .5 seconds for light to travel .5 light seconds, on Earth???

The ones where you take the round trip time and divide by 2 and claim those are the one way times? Look how much time it takes for light to reach the x receiver (1.384930 seconds) and for the light to return to the center.

Did it take .5 seconds for light to reach the x receiver, and an additional .5 seconds for the light to return to the center, for a total round trip time of 1.0 seconds? Hell no! The one way times are different each way.

The real experiments where the timing didn’t change regardless of the time of day or season. The lab moves differently - but the light always strikes the same - why?

Like I said, you have a BS theory with BS experiments, and they match. What matching results would you expect for a BS theory, correct ones? Are you trying to say that a BS theory should have matching correct results?

The very notion that length contraction, time dilation, relativity of simultaneity, clock synchronization method, and one way times that are simply round trip divided by 2 should give you a clue.

Plus the human factor, where Einstein was a known Fudger! Fudge Factor to the rescue of a BS theory!

So you deny the science as a conspiracy theory and make up your own BS theory.

Why do you think all of those scientists lied so much - and still are?

It’s a fact Einstein was a Fudger! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fudge_factor

Do you deny that? If I would have claimed that before it was revealed would you have claimed I was full of it? How about now? Do you admit he fudged stuff?

Do you think that Einstein was the only scientist examining this stuff for the last 100 years? You are proposing that every scientist since than has been - and still is - lying - or just ignorant as hell. If this was the political arena - I could believe that - but science hasn’t been THAT corrupt (until very recently) - so why would so many be willing to “fudge” and not get reported?

They use his method, which is wrong, and get results using his method, which are wrong.

Don’t pretend that it would be outrageous for a group of scientists to lie about results to keep their BS going. Many are motivated by religion, and they will do what they have to to protect their gold mine, I mean faith.

Do you think Einstein was the only one in the science community who fudged stuff? If he would do it what makes you think the others are honest?

So when I asked what you were trying to prove with this - your answer is that Einstien and all the scientists since - are fudgers - liars.

Are you aware that your argument has nothing to do with Einstein or relativity - so proves nothing concerning them?

I am proving that there is absolute velocity in space.
I am proving that the speed of light is not measured as c in the box.
I am proving Einstein’s 2nd postulate is wrong.

No you are not.

Remember how Ecmandu presumed to lecture you on how easy it was to “square the circle” - only to find out that he didn’t actually understand the whole issue – “area - not merely circumference”?

Now it is your turn to do similar. You - apparently - don’t understand the actual issue at hand - so your “proof” - much like Ecmandu’s - doesn’t even address the actual issue.

No you are not.

No you are not - not even addressing it.

Until you can show how the speed of light is measured to be c in the box then you are just flapping your lips!

Einstein’s 2nd postulate is BUNK! Deal with it!

So let’s see how far you can get with this -
State Einstein’s 2nd postulate.

The speed of light is constant in an inertial frame.

Here we have an inertial frame, the box:

The speed of light from the center of the box to the Z receiver is .5/.65=.769c
The speed of light from the center of the box to the X receiver is .5/1.384930=.361c

So in the box, which is an inertial frame, the speed of light is different, depending on the direction you measure it.

Even on the same axis, the X axis in the box, the speed of light is different one way than it is the other way. That means the one way speed of light is different along the same axis, in both directions.

For Einstein to claim that the round trip time divided by 2 is the one way times, is wrong. The box clearly shows the round trip time from the center, to the x receiver, and back to center is 1.689999 seconds.

If you divide 1.689999 by 2 you get .84499 seconds. It doesn’t take light .84499 second to get to the x receiver, and it doesn’t take light .84499 seconds to get back to center, so he’s wrong both ways!

The round trip time of light travel is 1.689999 seconds, to travel to a receiver .5 light seconds away in the box, and back to center!

Already misunderstood the postulate.
As I said - like Ecmandu and the square-circle problem.

The “inertial frame” is the frame that doesn’t move with respect to the observer - it has “inertia”.

Your box is the opposite of the inertial frame.

Wrong again. I am in the box, standing still in the box at the center. There is no motion, it is just me in a box in space. I have no idea if the box has a velocity in space or not.

I emit a light from the center of the box and measure the time it takes for the light to reach the Z receiver, which is a distance of .5 light seconds away from the center.

The light hits the receiver at t=.65 seconds. So the speed of light in the box, to the Z receiver is .5/.65=.769c

You are changing the narrative. You said that the box was moving at a particular speed.

Which is it? It matters.

Is the source of light moving to the left when it flashes? That isn’t what you said - but what you are saying now.

I’ve changed nothing! You are starting to become aware of what I am showing, and it’s still fuzzy to you now. As time progresses it will get more clear as I explain it to you.

I am in the box, and I measured the times to the receivers, and calculated the absolute velocity of the box in space, using light to measure with. I made the diagram to show my findings!

The “source of light” remains at the center of the box at all times. There is no motion in the box!

The motion is the box traveling in space at the absolute velocity of .638971c. It is a single box traveling in the vacuum of space. There is no relative motion to any other object.

What you SHOW is the box moving away from the depicted center of the light circle.

If the center of the light circle does not stay in the center of the box - how could the box not be moving?

The center of the light circle is the point in space where the light source was when it emitted light.

Yes, the box has moved in space away from that point in space. That is what absolute velocity is! It is the motion of a single object in space.

So back to where we started - the box is moving with respect to the source of light and the observer (else the observer would think that space was moving to the left).

So the true inertial frame in this scenario is the source of the light and the box is moving to the right as the light chases the box’s right wall.