In other words, even among those “deep thinkers” who take things like this seriously.
Me, I still need actual hard evidence that God – any God – does in fact exist. After all, how on earth could that not be both the starting point and the bottom line for quandaries such as this?
EHRMAN: Well, what I argue in the book is that during his lifetime, Jesus himself didn’t call himself God and didn’t consider himself God and that none of his disciples had any inkling at all that he was God.
Indeed. That’s the part I construe as being embedded/embodied existentially in dasein.
But here’s the thing. With both morality on this side of the grave, and immortality on the other side at stake, wouldn’t it seem reasonable to expect that the Christian God would make it abundantly clear what it does mean to worship and adore Him?
True, I don’t know if, on Judgment Day, Christians damn well better know if Jesus Christ was aware of being Yahweh, but, well, how do we determine if it is important that they do?
Let’s just say that until someone is able to convince me that Jesus and Yahweh actually did/do exist – and I once believed that they did/do – it really doesn’t matter much what others think their relationship was.
Yeah it’s good that you qualified that your response is just about you. Because for billions of people in the world Jesus has important historic and symbolic significance regardless of whether there is such a being as whatever you conceive God to be. The problem is while you say that your stupid evaluation of the situation is just about you, here you are trying to promote your way of seeing things on a philosophical forum. You don’t see that you contradict yourself every time you do that. The problem is with other people from your narcissistic point of view. Here’s a suggestion: don’t keep it up.
I always do. In regard to value judgments [re the OP and others] I construe my point of view as an existential contraption rooted subjectively in dasein. Then I ask objectivists of various ilk to note how that is not the case with them.
Instead…
As with my own frame of mind, however, I am not interested in what others believe “in their head” is true about Jesus and God, I’m interested in what either “I” or they can demonstrate is in fact true about them. As this relates to the behaviors we choose on this side of the grave as that relates to what we anticipate our fate to be on the other side.
You know, the part that you and your ilk avoid like the covid-19.
Again, let’s focus in on the assessments of a particular context involving conflicting religious denominations. I can convey my evaluation of it and you can point out in much greater detail how and why it is “stupid”. How I “contradict” myself here in a philosophy forum. Why I am a “narcissist” in providing my own assessment.
While I point out a few things about you.
Note to others:
Shame him into actually taking me up on this. [-o<
Right. You’re not interested in the phenomenal world. You’re only interested in a narrow little debunking agenda based on a paper thin set of assumptions you took away from your failed superficial understanding of religion. You don’t profit from reason from any other point of view despite the attempts of many well-meaning intelligent persons on this website. I say this for the benefit of others. You have repeatedly demonstrated that dialogue with you is a waste of time.
What do you imagine I’m wiggling from ? I have nothing to do with the objectivist viewpoint you imagine yourself arguing against. You haven’t shown a glimmer of comprehension of my position. Your arrogant ignorance and stupidity has well earned my contempt. Whereas, your nihilism is typical of the degraded mindset of the age. I know you. You are an infection I have overcome.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. 