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Re: Is God good?

Postby obsrvr524 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:34 pm

Ecmandu wrote:Every single fucking being in all of existence is having their consent violated in some way, shape or form. That’s not a dream. That’s reality.

That means that the holy name of god is: the supreme consent violator

Or when (and if) you wake up you will find that it means that "every fucking being in all of existence" is yearning to do the impossible and suffering the consequences (suffering Hell).
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:17 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:Every single fucking being in all of existence is having their consent violated in some way, shape or form. That’s not a dream. That’s reality.

That means that the holy name of god is: the supreme consent violator

Or when (and if) you wake up you will find that it means that "every fucking being in all of existence" is yearning to do the impossible and suffering the consequences (suffering Hell).


I already know how to make existence perfect individual heavens for everyone, forever, without the possibility of violating a single consent forever.

It’s not impossible. Knowing all this; I have a vantage point that is informed with which to analyze existence; a vantage point that you lack.

Being awake is simply knowing that zero sum realities never work... that when you win, you lose and are sent to hell, and when you lose, you’re already in hell.

It’s the flaw of existence... hell forever for everyone.

You are not even close to awake. You haven’t even taken on adult responsibilities yet.

Until you isolate where you are, (which you haven’t done yet), you can’t start doing the work. You’re not doing the work yet.
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:43 pm

Here’s how to make existence perfect:

You use platonic forms in a holographic 1 dimensional tube... platonic forms are the only non sentient existents in existence, they are aggregate templates that allow us to abstract categories.

Attached to this 1 dimensional holographic tube (each part has the nested whole) is us... desired Infinite regress strange loop hyper dimensional mirror realities...

We are mirroring the platonic forms to make a reality as immersive as this one with us being the only non reflected being in our reality (which makes it so that it’s impossible to violate another beings consent - even a virus, a microbe, a photon)

The mirror is bound to our individual desire manifestation matrice and we can change the shape of the mirror at will to make reality whatever we want it to be forever, using all the infinite raw materials in the platonic form tube.

I actually think it’s bizarre that you think you are awake and I am asleep. You couldn’t even define awake without my help.
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Re: Is God good?

Postby promethean75 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:44 pm

Okay obviously we know how to make reality perfect in theory... but like how do we actually do it? Like what are we supposed to do? Do we make something? What's the deal?
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:03 pm

promethean75 wrote:Okay obviously we know how to make reality perfect in theory... but like how do we actually do it? Like what are we supposed to do? Do we make something? What's the deal?


Unfortunately, we have to get all beings to agree to the same upgrade of existence at the same time for this to work. It’s an aggravating waiting game.

We all made this together, we all change it together.

You must understand, as obsrvr doesn’t, that the entire point of our reality is to keep an infinite number of beings who were never born and never die, entertained forever (instead of infinite boredom)

Forever is boring as fuck! So we made innovations... spirits, evolution, god, enlightenment, hell, heaven, reincarnation, memory wipes etc...

Actually, the ONLY way the current plan works is to keep us asleep forever.

Now! Try to explain this to someone who chose not to ever be awake again, because they remember infinite boredom in their subconscious ! It’s like talking to someone who tore their eyes out and cut their ears off. The REASON people don’t think I’m on this insanely high level of cognition for reality is that they chose of their own volition (per the current plan) to never be woken up!!

That’s the way the current plan works! I’m well aware of this. It’s all of us or just the old (currently implemented) plan (which was all of us).

Now! You have to understand! The old plan (what we’re in right now) took us trillions and trillions and trillions of eons to make. There is a very strong spiritual aversion to waking up... the spirits all remember what it’s like to be bored forever

They don’t want to go there again.
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Kathrina » Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:10 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:_
I liked this post (although he had others concerning different definitional concerns for God) -
James S Saint » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:23 am wrote:Although the stories of God have created many efforts to describe God and tell of the features of God, there is but one actual definition of God. A definition is not a description of features (omni-this, omni-that,...), but rather a limiting description of properties;

A god ≡ who/whatever incontestably determines what can or cannot be concerning a particular situation.
The God ≡ Who/Whatever incontestably determines All that can or cannot be concerning any situation.

What other attributes of God that might apply are comparatively irrelevant and usually merely someone's guess or more often, someones hyperbolic estimation, of power or ability. What counts most is what it is that determines the difference between God and anything else.

The word "God" is capitalized, not merely out of respect (as so many presume), but rather to signify the fundamental essence of the concept. A "god" is anything that has ultimate authority over a situation. It is the determiner of that one situation, eg "god of war, god of love, god of chaos". The word "God", being capitalized, refers to the essential property that permits a god to be a god at all - its ultimate authority. As it turns out, there is one thing, one ability, that allows any god to be a god. And that one property describes the ultimate nature of The God, without which there could be no gods at all.

So the question arises, what is that essence? What is there that could allow anything to be a god, an ultimate authority governing a particular situation? And I suspect that people in the past have known the answer to that question, but I can't find any reference that confirms that they truly knew. The answer is perhaps surprising to most of you. Most people today think of God in one Santa Claus version or another. And perhaps people always have (although I still hold a degree of faith that a very few have always known the more exact details).

So we know the definition of God. The question now is whether there exists anything that fits that definition. Perhaps you imagine that "the laws of physics" fit it. But they actually don't except in combination and presuming that they are accurately understood (which so far, merely out of arrogance, Man has not achieved).

So I propose to you, with far more than a modicum of confidence, that God, the creator of the universe and determiner of all that can or cannot be, is what you have previously known as "Impossibility" itself. God is not any particular impossible task, but rather the very principle of impossibility - "the fact that some things can never occur". God is not the lack of occurrence, not an entity that is itself impossible, but rather the very existence of the limit to possibility.

If there is a limit to possibility, God exists as that limit.

It is, in fact, the limits of what can possibly exist that determines what does exist. Even the fairy tale known as Quantum Physics agrees to that. In a sense, Quantum Mechanics (not Quantum Physics) proves the existence of God.

It is the impossibility of certain situations that cause what we call "matter" to form. Specifically, it is the impossibility for random electromagnetic waves to travel at an infinite speed (producing the limit of the speed of light) and also the impossibility for such propagation to be free of interference or retardation, delay. It is, in fact, the lack of freedom that causes the universe itself to exist at all.

Similarly, it is a lack of freedom that causes every society to form, even Ahdam. The word "Ahdam" literally means the blocking, or damming up, of free spirit - the propose first governing of homosapian. No society has ever formed without something either being inherently impossible or declared forbidden by law (usually resulting in merely an improbability rather than an impossibility).

It is only by the certain that anything endures. The more certain an essential element is, the more enduring its dependents are. The more certain the dollar, the more enduring the dollar's economy. All things are created and maintain by the degree of certainty within them. And God is that certainty via being the nature of impossibility itself.

Without God, there can be no reality whatsoever, because without the impossible, every possibility simply gets countered by its opposite. It is God that prevents literally everything from having an opposite in the same location at the same time .. such is impossible. And thus God, the Creator of all, is. And shall forever be.

If you believe that there is anything that is impossible, you believe in God (impossibility itself). And as it turns out, if you believe that there is anything that is possible, you believe in God as well (the effect of the impossible - creation).

And this one -
James S Saint » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:36 pm wrote:
James S Saint wrote:
  • Omnipresent - What is in all places?
  • Omnipotent - What holds all authority?
  • Omniscient - What is aware of even the tiniest and most secretive of events?
  • Omnibenevolent - What is willing to serve anyone who properly asks?

And you can even add an "omni" if you wish:
  • Omnicausal - What causes all things to be what they are?

One word;
      Truth (meaning "Reality", "Your Real Situation")

"The Truth will set you free" (as long as you maintain faith in it). Respect/worship nothing else.

How do we know Truth?

..not easily. "Pray to" (humbly seek of) Reality. Meditate on it. Contemplate it. But Nullius en verba.

Perhaps you would agree when I said that truth can also refer to the ideal or spiritual realm, that is, it does not have to refer to the real or material realm alone.
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Berkley Babes » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:07 am

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Re: Is God good?

Postby obsrvr524 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:52 am

Kathrina wrote:Perhaps you would agree when I said that truth can also refer to the ideal or spiritual realm, that is, it does not have to refer to the real or material realm alone.

I don't understand why you are saying that. Truth is founded in the ideal/divine/conceptual realm.
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Jakob » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:42 am

A man needs a god because he is grateful for his existence. That is the first property of pagan gods. That man is grateful to them.
A hierarchy of gratitudes makes almost for a pantheon.*

Somehow, gods also actually exist and do stuff.
Whether we can judge this stuff as good or evil, it depends on what we believe about ourselves.

The origin of things is a logic, or what we apprehend as a logic; it is the coupling of possibility and necessity, which produces a system in which we apprehend ourselves. This whole deal has been called "I am that I am" but not God; God in that system (Hebrew) comes 3 steps lower on the ladder of the necessities following the fulfillment of possibility.

Beyond this "I am that I am" (not what I am, merely that I am) is a series of negations which together amount to a possible refutation of negation. It's merely a way of showing that for there to be nothing at all is very hard, logically speaking.


*why there is no devil in pagan pantheons; instead there are other peoples gratitudes- people with different gods, things theyre grateful for which might contradict our own. Like Ecmandu always talks about. That is real, and he should find his own pagan gods and be done with the misery. He's right, so was I once and suffering equally, but I realized finally that such understanding is not truthful to nature. Nature contradicts herself in being fully apprehended - she likes to hide, that is why the Requirement of the Eternal Recurrence of the Same is an error - it is an injustice to nature. Affirming it here and there might be seen as a pinch in the but-tocs and result in good vitality. But as a logos it will destroy the soul.
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Re: Is God good?

Postby encode_decode » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:45 am

obsrvr524 wrote:
Kathrina wrote:Perhaps you would agree when I said that truth can also refer to the ideal or spiritual realm, that is, it does not have to refer to the real or material realm alone.

I don't understand why you are saying that. Truth is founded in the ideal/divine/conceptual realm.

Assuming there is only one truth, interesting. Truth is an applied principle, truth can be applied to the concept of one plus one equals two but is this small summation "THE TRUTH"?
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Re: Is God good?

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:13 pm

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obsrvr524 wrote:
Kathrina wrote:Perhaps you would agree when I said that truth can also refer to the ideal or spiritual realm, that is, it does not have to refer to the real or material realm alone.

I don't understand why you are saying that. Truth is founded in the ideal/divine/conceptual realm.

Assuming there is only one truth, interesting. Truth is an applied principle, truth can be applied to the concept of one plus one equals two but is this small summation "THE TRUTH"?

I think when people say that there is "only one truth" they mean to say that there is only one reality. Truth is the description of reality (the words or statements describing it). And unless they are referring to a title of a book or movie when they capitalize like that I think they are referring to the perfect or absolute all-encompassing truth instead of any one particular truth.
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Kathrina » Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:09 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:
Kathrina wrote:Perhaps you would agree when I said that truth can also refer to the ideal or spiritual realm, that is, it does not have to refer to the real or material realm alone.

I don't understand why you are saying that. Truth is founded in the ideal/divine/conceptual realm.

Because you said this:
obsrvr524 wrote:James S Saint » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:36 pm:
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      Truth (meaning "Reality", "Your Real Situation")
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Re: Is God good?

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:10 pm

I still don't understand. :-k
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    It's just same Satanism as always -
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    • the left from the right,
    • the light from the dark, and
    • blame each for the sins of the other
    • - until they beg you to take charge.
    • -- but "you" have been observed --
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Greatest I am » Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:13 pm

thinkdr wrote:

Any questions?

Comments welcome.... preferably constructive and relevant comments.


Do you recognize that we live in a dualistic universe and that god has two side, good and evil?

This is not to say both sides are evil as Yin and yang compliment each other and are not in opposition. More like front and back.

Does your god not have a back?

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Re: Is God good?

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:24 pm

Greatest I am wrote:Does your god not have a back?

What is the "back side" of your real situation?
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    • blame each for the sins of the other
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Greatest I am » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:59 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:Does your god not have a back?

What is the "back side" of your real situation?


I do not understand the question, but if I were to guess, I would say that it is always with me as, liker you, I live in a dualistic reality.

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Re: Is God good?

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:17 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:Does your god not have a back?

What is the "back" of your real situation?

I do not understand the question

It is the same question you asked.
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Greatest I am » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:39 am

obsrvr524 wrote:What is the "back" of your real situation?

I do not understand the question[/quote]
It is the same question you asked.[/quote]

I do not word things that way, usually, and I do not recall doing so.
Get the quote to refresh my memory.

That or tell me what you think is my real situation is, again, so that I can see what you are talking about.

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Re: Is God good?

Postby obsrvr524 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:47 am

Your real situation is your God. You asked if God has a "back".
So I am asking you if your real situation has a "back".
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    • the light from the dark, and
    • blame each for the sins of the other
    • - until they beg you to take charge.
    • -- but "you" have been observed --
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Dan~ » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:50 am

The Mormons believe that all good things come from God.
To them, God the father is a huge power-source of infinite energy.
He uses it to bless our lives and create manifestations.
The earth was meant to contain much good.
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Ierrellus » Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:07 pm

If God can be seen as the force behind the creative evolution of all living beings and as the reclaimer into Itself of all It created , then God is good. The conservation of energy is the handiwork of a good God. But remember, God is a force, not a person. We crave the personal and so name forces that affect us. Those forces that affect us adversely we call evil. Those forces that affect us positively we call good. Both forces appear to be necessary in the creation and maintenance of worlds. But no souls are ever lost to evil.
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Re: Is God good?

Postby Greatest I am » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:21 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:Your real situation is your God. You asked if God has a "back".
So I am asking you if your real situation has a "back".


Absolutely.

This explain what I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqYHiejTVM

Further, I love and hare, just like Yahweh does, but I have better morals ands would not follow his lead.

That is why I am bound for the Christian hell, not that it exists.

Those who embrace genocide and infanticide will be with Yahweh.

It's like Hitler having his own branch in heaven.

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Re: Is God good?

Postby Greatest I am » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:29 pm

Dan~ wrote:The Mormons believe that all good things come from God.
To them, God the father is a huge power-source of infinite energy.
He uses it to bless our lives and create manifestations.
The earth was meant to contain much good.


Statistically speaking, the world has never been so blessed with such a small amount of evil as compared to the huge amount of good that statistics say we are enjoying.

This is in spite of the vile mainstream homophobic and misogynous religions preaching against the law of the land.

They are traitors to their countries.

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Re: Is God good?

Postby Greatest I am » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:32 pm

Ierrellus wrote:If God can be seen as the force behind the creative evolution of all living beings and as the reclaimer into Itself of all It created , then God is good. The conservation of energy is the handiwork of a good God. But remember, God is a force, not a person. We crave the personal and so name forces that affect us. Those forces that affect us adversely we call evil. Those forces that affect us positively we call good. Both forces appear to be necessary in the creation and maintenance of worlds. But no souls are ever lost to evil.


Sounds like a lie, but it may not be depending on your definition.

How can you know that as a fact?

Have you seen/found/talked with a soul?

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Re: Is God good?

Postby obsrvr524 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:34 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:Your real situation is your God. You asked if God has a "back".
So I am asking you if your real situation has a "back".


Absolutely.

This explain what I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqYHiejTVM

I'm not going to watch a video - so if you have an argument for your real situation having a "back" then state it.
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    • blame each for the sins of the other
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