Petition to ban Sculptor

Great! Another opportunity to post this:

Also, I get to remind him of the gap between the threads that I started [or sustain] here at ILP…

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…as opposed to the majority of his own “contributions” which consist mostly of all the cool trips he takes on his cool motorcycle and all the cool things he bought with cool pictures to prove it.

And now this:

“pedro is one of the few examples of someone in the world that i think is cool even though he doesn’t really like me”

:laughing:

Oh, and as for banning Sculptor, I’m agin it.

aniceguy and Wendy on the other hand… :wink:

Iambiguous,

I like that you stood up for yourself against postards like mr. r.

Ironically, it shows that you’re an objectivist with a solid sense of “I”.

You don’t put forth a logical argument. You simply reply with a few words such as this quote of yours:

…and this:

You simply say “wrong” and give no explanation.
You simply say “time is different”

Duh?

If you are so logical and understand it, then why don’t you explain it the way your logical brain understands it??

I’ll tell you why; because you don’t understand it, and you’re simply spewing BS. That is TROLL behavior, just entering a conversation with a few quick drive-by statements that mean absolutely nothing.

I thought about this thread for a while before I responded. I would normally not be a supporter of banning anyone. But then I thought about how many boards I am banned from, and for what reason? No valid reason at all!

I was merely banned for putting up uncomfortable facts that the Moderators didn’t like, because it was against their beliefs. They would simply delete my posts, and ban me, so nobody would ever know.

So I thought to myself, if a mod can ruin my stay at a site, then everyone should be held to same standard. It’s either that or get rid of the bad mods, but that isn’t gonna happen.

It’s no wonder why the boards have dried up. Bad Mods banned so many people there is nothing left. The people that were interested in talking about science were banned, and the religious people were always welcome!

I gives less than a damn, I hope their sites close down due to the fact that they banned all the good people, due to their religious beliefs!

lol triggered

:laughing:

“Ad hominem arguments” are better than personal attacks (name calling, insults, etc.) The latter are off-topic distractions meant to emotionally manipulate the public, the former are an attempt to defend one’s position using arguments. I wish Sculptor had a habit of posting “ad hominem arguments”. But he doesn’t.

I don’t know what kind of reasoning is that. I’d rather have a ghost town than a town full of criminals (which is what this place currently is – kind of.) I’d understand that kind of reasoning – but would still be against it – if the owners of this forum were making money off this forum. But are they?

A well moderated philosophy forum, even if it only has a handful of members, attracts people interested in philosophical discourse. A badly moderator forum, on the other hand, attracts problematic types and repels logical types. Is that what you want?

Let’s take a look at some of Sculptor’s recent posts. This is merely scratching the surface. (He’s been known for being a problematic type for a very long time – for many many years. t’s certainly not something new.)

Here, he’s merely repeating his previously stated beliefs.

Here, he’s suggesting there’s something wrong with his interlocutor and he’s saying that his interlocutor is “unremittingly spewing” banal examples.

Here, he’s laughing at his interlocutor and calling him a moron.

In all three posts, no substance whatsoever, no positive contrubition whatsoever.

And most of his posts are like that if not worse (which makes him a bit more than just an average ad homer.)

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What happened to your avatar, MagsJ?

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What is the difference between ad hom and personal insult? Both seem to point to failure to achieve civil discourse. Fortunately, Sculptor can sometimes give decent, well-thought out posts. At other times he acts as the policeman for truth as he sees it. Nothing wrong with that so long as her does not consider those who disagree with him to be fools. I would not ban him, but I would like to see him take a course in polite conversation.

I think what they mean by “ad hominem arguments” are arguments that attempt to prove that what the opponent is saying is false by using as a premise that something about the opponent is such and such.

  1. John has low IQ.

  2. What low IQ people say is false.

  3. John says that 2+2=4.

  4. Therefore, 2+2=4 is false.

That is better than a simple insult. The argument might not be a good one but it is not an insult (or at the very least, it’s more than just an insult.)

Imagine if everyone assumed they are right and everyone else is wrong. Everyone would be a policeman for truth. Everyone would be doing everything they can to promote what they think is truth and demote what they think is falsehood. So instead of having a forum where people are trying to influence each other rationally, you’d have a forum full of nasty people fighting for “ad space”.

I like about Sculptor that he is an accurate representative of the current main stream’s unadulterated superego.

Every ban tarnishes this website, and its current state is largely due to having banned most of the interesting people along the way. So, in that sense, he is also a little bit of a karmic punishment.

Until we solve the underlying problems that produce Sculptor, we deserve Sculptor.

I still voted to ban, because there is just something satisfying about it, and the fact that more people have voted than I even thought were active here.

What a dumb motherfucker that guy.

Say what you want about those guys, but dumb they ain’t.

They say things. They have the balls to make statements.

Again, this isn’t meant as an argument for a ban, but as a comment on our larger society.

Nobody knows how to think anymore. They just know what is the ‘right’ position and the ‘wrong’ position, and that everybody in the ‘wrong’ position must be fended off with extreme prejudice.

Make America Great Again

Take a dump on my face again!

You’re the least tolerant Christian I’ve ever seen, I swear to God.

Lol Where’s your sense of humor? I thought some of your posts were humorous and that you intended them to be.

Get persecuted enough for admiring a Great Man and you become oversensitive about some things.

Like our friend above, I have been not only banned, but shadow banned, for saying things as innocuous as that Alireza Firouzja is a political exile, not an emigrant.

Anyway.

Tell your mom not to call again.

HaHa! That’s funny.

pedro did you get shadowbanned on twitter? you can get out of that shit it’s not hard. they did it to me once. like i gained a shit load of followers one time for talking a bunch of shit. then all of a sudden no one could see my tweets who didn’t follow me. and you couldn’t search my username like it couldn’t come up in as recommended. then, when i would reply, mine wouldn’t show unless you scrolled to the bottom and clicked, “view more replies”.

a full on shadowban bruh. but then it got lifted and then i started getting a lot more followers again. bout to hit 40k its hilarious.

they really exile that kid?