Minimally 75% of all people are decadents(all women and men at least until the age of 20 and from 60 on). That is why there is no place on the web to discuss Nietzsche’s philosophy. And if they do, then they discuss mostly his only one book written in his decadent time: The birth of tragedy… That is why he is the “most misunderstood” philosopher. And the rest of the non-decadents probably doesn’t even know what a decadent is. And decadent is an egalitarian.
What excatly is the approach to all this? It points in different directions? Nietzsche seems very outdated imho, so what’s the point?
The point is that Nietzsche is born posthumously and all of you are outdated, including this forum which allows PARODIES over Nietzsche’s name!
Why are guys between 20 and 60 the only possible ‘non-decandents’. I’m not going to argue with your last statement because I know very well where that philosophy comes from, but even assuming egalitarianism is decadence, what on earth makes you think that most people under 20 are egalitarian, where you ever under 20 yourself? I mean 99 percent of people when they were under 20, very much including myself, had no real since of egalitarian principals whatever retoric they may have spewed. In fact egalitarianism was the plague I dealt with in my twenties, and never again, not that I think it’s a bad world view, if one must have a world view.
A decadent is a loser. Name one king under 20 who was successful, let’s say a conqueror.
Decadent: weakling, coon.
Zarathustra: man in a full strength.
"In the youth of the peoples and states bloom weapons and the arts of war; in the mature masculine age of nations and states the arts and sciences; then for a time both together, weaponry and Muse Arts; and finally in the old age of nations and states, trade and industry, luxury and fashion "(Bacon De augm scient IV, 2 p 114; Sermones fideles 56 p 1236)
World: an old man who believes that life comes after retirement. Also called ‘god’.
Cezar? He’s back!
That’s called a stillbirth in English buddy.
I request from all those who are officially able to sue anybody for throwing dirt at Nietzsche’s name to take under charge also this forum and those who post such a rubbish!
Sorry Cezar, it’s been pointed out several times in the work listed above Kauffman was outright lying, and most commentators before Kauffman wrote positively on the book.
He went through the unpublished works of guys like Overbeck (Nietzsche’s buddy) and found considerable collaboration between their letters and what Nietzsche wrote in the book.
Most evidence now heavily leans in the direction that Nietzsche wrote this work… if you would like to dispute this- being the foremost Nietzsche expert here and living in Germany, you can do so… he has a massive listing of positions in his study begging to be refuted.
However, as it stands, until someone is able to do so (disproving the considerable, hard to argue with evidence that wasn’t published until recently from the libraries of Nietzsche’s friends. long after this work came out), the overwhelming evidence is this, My Sister and I is the last work of Nietzsche.
I dare you to try to prove otherwise. Go see if the letters he quotes are real. You owe it to Nietzsche afterall… if on the one hand, someone stole a time machine, went back in time, and made this hoax happen, then it’s your duty to denounce it intelligently, point by point. If it is not, you owe Nietzsche the duty of spreading this work for him… if you are truelove a Nietzschean. Either-way, your gotta deal with this. Unless your just a Nietzsche Tourist who hasn’t read all his works…
Kauffman is no longer a legitimate resource on Nietzsche, he’s proven largely to be inept, he’s been blown out of the water with critical research that exposed his coverups of his own ignorance. He’s been proven to lie.
You now have a destiny Cezar… these two books require your careful analysis, one way or another.
I’m going to make a new banner for my signature so the thousands of people visiting this site will see it, click it, and buy the books.
You were living alone with your mom, isn’t it?
Well Historyboy, such a statement or an actual counter argument (quality or not) alike, it doesn’t really matter when talking to CN. The best thing to keep in mind is that it’s as if he’s cutting and paisting all his posts from let’s say his ‘archives’ and therefore you must say something that can be responded to with an excerpt from such archives if you want a response, even if his archives are actually in his head.
I don’t celebrate the Holly Arguing.
Civility, gentlemen, please.
Other way around there, the archive I took here was from the two links given, and past dealings with Cezar, who historyboy is.
Most of the archives for The Contra Nietzche Project are gathered, just not electronically formatted yet. I’m stuck right now on research of Nietzsche’s medical outlook- the Cult of Isis and Jerome Cardan in particular… it’s forcing on me a revaluation of Nietzsche underlying understanding of himself… as Homo and My Sister were his autobiographical works, and most dealt with his own needs and identity. I’ve got a section of works from his nachlab I am looking for on Ancient Myths, I was a bit surprised he knew so much about it.
When the man becomes real, human… It causes a pause and appreciation for the vision of the underlining man… he becomes a aspect to yourself. From TotI to EH and MSaI he his personal side comes out, and I pause to crush a living, breathing, fragile man.
I don’t know what to do with this human aspect of Nietzsche… a thought among my own thoughts. For Nietzsche the sick monster, he’s much easier to deal with due to the casual effects his message holds. I have, from Sauwelios perspective, a moment of causality and pity.
Oh, and Cezar, you asked if I was living with my mother? Yes and no, she is my spiritual mother… I suppose its akin to that lady of the petite-nobility who adopted you as a pet and taught you the ways of your nobility. It was through her I gained a depth of understanding of the other ancient churches other than Roman Catholicism, and when my mother went insane and fled, she essentially took the emotional role of a mother I never really had, I was always more a councillor to my father, or a disposed father figure.
I live in the utter collapse of the end game of socialism. You never paused to question why a ‘Christian’ such as me, with all your ideological presuppositions, would be so brutally opposed to socialism, despite its seeming obvious gains to me.
My community was the most socialistic in my nation, we had the largest employee owned business in the US, a steel mill- straight up proletarian stuff, a integrated free medical system for the poor, etc… and when I was a teenager watched it all collapse from repeated labor strikes and shit rotten electorate system, and complete non-understanding of strategic elements on the part of the union in dealing with mergers and international competition. You may not like me, but you know what I am- a master of history and strategy, with emphasis on technical and administrative organization, a background in psychology and law. It’s obvious what my eventual place would of been… but the system became too rotten and collapsed before I was even a adult. It was growing me, and I came to fruition after its death… as a son of my society, how do you think that eats at me? To see younger sisters of kids I grew up with to be turned into malnourished whores, finding they are beaten or committed suicide? Not a few isolated cases, many. Or the joys of knowing the highest concentrations of Casinos in the nation per capita is in your town? We have a small population… even smaller after the demographics collapse.
There is next to no work here. Everytime I put my ruck on to leave, I get nothing but tears… fears of me being homeless. I was infantry, it’s not a issue, the lack of jobs is… I need to go to where they are. But if I stay, My teeth grind… I see nothing but decay, and the methods to solve this is cheap and stupid simple. Just I literally have zero dollars, the few handfuls I earn go to ebooks or dropped on a starving retarded family nearby who’s mother I used to tutor in business.
My return was precipated by two factors… Coming to a negative conclusion of my agriculture project in Hawaii- not for technical reasons but utter decadence and corruption from excessive bribing of local politicians to look away so NOTHING edible is ever farmed in Hawaii, and the discovery my younger brother fell into the drug culture and was jailed.
My goal was a very simple goal, get on the scene, inquire into the reasons he got involved, figure out the bahavior of the drug culture, and smash it.
It’s a very simple, stupid easy solution to boot, I only need a few specialized parts (but not in unrealistic, that I’ve already located online) to complete the mechanical portion, and contacts with the local sheriff’s department to have it mapped out and tactically implemented, targeting the locations of residential drug manufactures in real time, on a easy to prove scientifically determinable basis akin to fingerprint identification by reading the variation of the light spectrum. It will have very substantial global implications. It’s a few thousand dollars, and I’m seep rated from it by societal rot.
I’ve been translating old philosophy books from Hindi to English constructing the first ever theory of mind mapped on a neurological basis for pure mathematics so as to give a cognitive framework for these discoveries, so they may proceed faster… as well as beginning translation of a old Byzantine infantry-guerrilla warfare manual so the officers of my country can become more competent historically and tactically.
I’ve also been liberally dispersing knowledge of geology, showing people where to find molding clay and fossils, and have been active with my local museum, tracking down archeological sites. I occasionally get drafted into political nothingness, and find myself blank face in the city building or state capital, the offices of which always have mason magazines now… a sign if how far we’ve fallen intellectually.
I study law on the side, reasons ‘The Flexible Constitution’ which is a Wittgensteinian analysis of Original Intent. A lot of silly, backwards ultraliberal literature ends up here. Whatever dreams I’ve had of reading law for four years under a lawyer and then taking the bar is quickly fading… I know of no honest, respectable lawyers to ask, the only one I knew was 106 and died a year ago. I feel a great tradition of Appalachian Law has essentially died, there are no longer lawyers of faith and republican duty anymore. I only see disease and decay, crime and atheism.
It was my community that started the first Ranger regiment. We started a war that culminated into the French and Indian War… what you know as the Seven Years War. We built the first industrial complex west of the Appalachian Mountains, supplied the war materials to defeat the British Navy on the Great Lakes. George Washington himself was the first to record our towns location. We grew into the largest steel industry in the US. The Second World War was fought with materials we made. No other people proportionally has given more men to the military than us.
We followed the liberals every demand and assurance. We were industrial giants, and resultingly the biggest polluters. When I was a kid, I made a lot of money sweeping up rusted ash on the sidewalks. We went from one of the dirtiest to cleanest, the most capitalistic to socialist, segregated into intergrated… and those very same people buttfucked us royally in the time of our greatest need. We don’t own the mill, half of which is torn down, other half soon enough, we don’t have the capacity to even produce our own power, having to import it, the most liberal area near us, Chicago, has colonized us gang and drug wise, people are murdered and tape, poverty rampant… and then when Obama is elected, we are even called racist and not the 'kind of people who would vote for him" with exaggerated exclamation marks, implying backwards racism.
Had the system survived, I likely would if become its intellectual tip if its spear. It didn’t, it collapsed under its own self-deceit and political gambling, and strategic triage.
You can mock me for staying with a ‘parent’, but even in my most pathetic of states, I still do more and am worth more, even under a generalized Nietzschean conception of health, for my people, as well as countless others. I face the disgust of the ends to a history, a largely lost and decayed system. I struggle to comprehend how someone of my looks and intellect began his intellectual journey here… if I leave I am not the last, merely witness to the last. If I stay, perhaps the last merely staving off a total rout. I miss traveling. Running forums for intellectual debates, having a occasional student. Everything here has long ago given up or is too fried from drugs to notice. I live in the ruins if the final stage of socialism, and nothing can be more disastrous than it. I can comprehend the shock of say, Michael Moore to the systematic collapse of his similar town Flint Michigan, but he didn’t have to see the horrid end results of just what happens when his brand of socialism comes into play. I live in its ruins, a ruin which is spreading. It’s enevitable, as certain as the march of suicide liberalism and unrestrained socialism, we are heading to social and economic collapse and decay.
I am here to help the people I once knew to put a few things straight, get my relatives back on my feet, pay a emotional debt to my kin, before likely pushing on. I would prefer a flooded ditch as a home over this long term… the women don’t even look right.
This topic is unfortunately also approachable for Nietzsche shitheads.
Stupid Americans are collapsing the entire fucking world.
Interesting, CN, certainly not archival, maybe it’s none of my business, but if historyboy is Cezar then why does he act like he doesn’t know you?
I think discussing identities is illegal on all message boards. Besides, not discussing anything is also a right that shall be sanctioned by the moderators.
One should be able to discuss only on request and approval of both sides. That is called respect. A respectful discussion is that of humans. An angry of animals.
If you used to go by the name Cezar here (which apparently you did) then it’s not really a case of ‘revealing your identity’ by my judgement. If he were posting pictures of your passport, that would be another matter.
But I’m not the moderator on this forum, Only_Humean is. It’s up to him.
Unless I’m not under another name, this is my only identity. Maybe I’ll request a Christian username on this forum…
What about Christian Overman, wouldn’t that be a fun name…?