Why the Nazis actually won...

The war against communism lasted for decades after WWII. I cannot see how fighting a was thousands of miles away from your home is “good”. And the same applies for genetic testing. I am against Hitler but I am also against every westerner trying to pose as a “good man” against all “evil” in the world. Trying to manipulate the people was bad when conducted by Goebbels but it is good when conducted by CNN. The first is “propaganda”, the latter is “information”…

There is a political theory floating around, which subscribes to the idea that with the coming new evolving world, total unification will not exceed the 3 major centres of power : 1 the anglo Saxons in including the Americas 2: the EU. 3:Asia including India

This division of the world into power centres, resemble the notions of empirical, analytical and neo colonial mentalities.

 WW II was about the ideological triumvirate of socialism, capitalism and fascism.  These three can be also correlated with the Soviet empire, the old Holy Roman Empire, and the British imperium.

It is very likely, that the EU is going to come out on top of the heap, as it recovers in less then 100 years from the 100 years of war. Incredibly, Europe recovered from another hundred years of war to live and progress and fight many more.

And finally, which is the country dominating the EU today? It is Germany, and in fact, if this presentation may hold any water, then indeed, the OP’s assertion may turn out to be correct one.

The communists were oppressive to their own people and to the people of the countries which they controlled. If they are not near you, then you have to wage the war elsewhere.

There are no black hats and white hats … all people wear grey hats and you need to decide what shade of grey is acceptable to you.

Trying to manipulate the people is always bad.

Don’t forget that Goebbels is famous for the ‘Big Lie’ - not only twisting the truth but outright denying it. And in Nazi Germany you did not have other sources of information readily available. At least CNN information can be compared to other suppliers of information.

The Germany of the EU is not a Nazi Germany with its particular ideology. If Germany pursues a policy of gaining living space in the east and enslaving the Slavs, then one might consider it a Nazi victory.

It is pursruing a living economic space. Believe me. I live in Greece. I am living it.

What is that?

The Nazis would take physical space. They intended(and partially succeeded) to deport the people from the land, kill them or enslave them. That has the key foreign policy in the east.

Is that what is happening in Greece?

WWII changed all cultures and governments forever.
Next we will be in the age of the resource wars. Those days are coming in our lifetime I believe.
Some people are already trying to prepare and react.

Fascism aspects, those never died. They reformed and were used by both democrats and communists.

He was also reluctant to attck the UK on race based adn then practical military concerns. He assumed that given their racial closeness they should be allies. Further this doesn’t mean the Nazis won. We have more dogs as pets than we did before WW2 and Hilter liked dogs, but this does nto mean Hitler won.

Then the US ‘won’. Russia had the first satellites. Did that mean the Nazis lost?

You can’t take a tiny piece of what the Nazis wanted - which surely was not that the US would be the first nation to achieve something rather than Germany - and then if it comes to pass this means the Nazis won. Just as honors coming to Einstein would not mean that the Germans won.

I have a tiny bit of sympathy here. I do think there is something sick in the way genetics is being conceived,b ut it isn’t, for the most part, being conceived as a set of tools to create a victorious Aryan race.

I think it would have been better to start with this last idea. It is not well supported by your post. The Nazi were a radically nationalistic, racist party skeptical about internationalizing forces. They would be horrified by the world today. The EU for example which directly affects German sovreignty. How much the races mix in all sorts of ways, black presidents, decadent media, postmodernist art - he was already shocked enough by modernist art, imagine how he would feel about MTV and performance art. The world is less like the one the Nazis would have wanted, much less. That certain memes are present in the present that can be found in Nazi Germany - but also in many other places - does not mean that the Nazis won.

Germany is the leader in EU and actually exploits it to its own purposes. In a way it has succeeded to conquer Europe but with economic means. And no matter what the problems tody, it just does not want to give up any of its powers no matter what. Wages in Greece have fallen about 30% in the last 3 years and yet our debt is still rising. Modern wars do not need to have blood…

Nazism is a technique used to cause change and profit.

Those who “win” are not the Nazis, but rather the users.
You guys still seem to have no idea of the purpose of WW1 and WW2.

So, if we redefine the standard meanings of war, enslavement, deportation and murder … then EU Germany is exactly like Nazi Germany. :open_mouth:

Hey, it worked for America. :evilfun:

That’s why top Nazi scientrists got special treatment and were justly rewarded for their contributions to US science.

  1. perhaps communism crashed because its base philosophy was flawed; especially after mechanisation of farming, because then farming requires it’s supporting industries, which in turn require capitalist institutions etc.

  2. hmm, not sure if rockets were before jets, but either way I am sure the Germans didn’t invent it or its originator [ancient Chinese wasn’t it?].

  3. I could point out that the fact western medicine follows Mengele, could simply mean that they are equally as ‘evil’.

I think the difference for modern medicine though is in the nature of it’s practice and application.

Obe

Probably true, though Britain also holds a balance between the states and Europe, are allies etc, china/asia is another player. whoever comes out on top will have to do as they are told as much as anyone else IMHO ~ this as there are many balancing parties involved. That’s the fundamental design here surely? …and can we not ask if that’s a good thing?

Jk; in the end it all comes down to the germans being those good chappies who build our cars for us, and the chinese for most everything else. Jolly good chaps them all. :laughing: hmm I think that was a wrong thing to say. :stuck_out_tongue:

In the end america got wall street [no’s 1] and we got the city of london financial district [no’s 2]. Now guess where much of the worlds money first gets syphoned off!

I wonder if you asked one of the few remaining Nazis, if they would tell you they feel as though they’ve won.

:stuck_out_tongue:

I’m 99% sure they would bitch and moan about women, blacks, liberals etc. and make out they were really hard done by.

And whose fault is that? If whites can’t come together collectively to defend ourselves we as a race deserve to die.

As for white females they’re too busy with money and careers to have family or children. Another nail in our coffin due to a race that has a inability to even mate anymore. It’s like the entire white European caucasian race has gone queer.

If whites can’t compete with other races it’s nature’s will that we go extincted.

End of argument.

The British royal family and many MPs had strong bonds with the Nazis…

http://harmoniaphilosophica.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/wwii-conspiracies-uk-and-nazis/

Yes, but that was because the ideology behind Nazism was common among intellectuals. Many of them agreed with much of the policies passed by Hitler. They believed in economic control by a strong central authority. Nazis just put into practice what they all believed. It’s why they stuck their fingers in their ears, closed their eyes and screamed no, no, no, when it first came out about the camps. The intellectuals didn’t want to believe it, when it could no longer be denied, they did their best to distance themselves from the Nazis. It’s why it’s not common knowledge that Nazis were just putting into practice one possible result of their Progressive beliefs.

Many of the Nazi beliefs were practiced outside of Germany long before the Nazis got all open about the stuff.

Harry was not saying he was a Nazi with that costume, Harry was being a dumb-ass kid with the costume. It does not prove your point.