Philosophy For Us Dummies

you are presenting information about the nature of water…it fits in with the atomic theory of matter…the info has been used in many ways…so far the info seems to be real…right now that is workable…
objective truth???I don’t know what that means…does that question have value…

–Fellow dummies… this business about objective truth is complicated… As turtle says, it could mean different things…
Atlanta is most likely in Georgia… since I’ve driven through there… but boundary lines on a map are a social construction, based on law and human artifice…
Separtists in Atlanta… not that there are any… might think that Atlanta is really part of Kentucky… stranger things have happened…

On a related note, I have an ancient philosophical puzzle for us dummies…
…If a tree falls in a forest… and nobody at all is around… does anybody hear it?

Not if you live in Southern Russia! :smiley:

It is true that Altlanta is a city in Georgia, but saying so does not make it objective. Objective is a redundancy i this example.

Objective is an adjective that requires a reason to be used; normally when a selection of criteria are met with a metric against a set of opinions.

[quote="von Rivers

Define nobody. Define anybody.
Do the birds and the squirrels and the deer, ad continuum count as "nobody’s?

If a river flows HERE, does anything here it THERE? :-k

“God hears it.”–G. Berkeley

There was a young man who said, “God
Must find it exceedingly odd
To think that the tree
Should continue to be
When there’s no one about in the quad.”

Reply:
“Dear Sir: Your astonishment’s odd;
I am always about in the quad.
And that’s why the tree
Will continue to be
Since observed by, Yours faithfully, God.”

  • Not sure who.

That kind of brings us back to your question, VR.

Miracles happen every day

maybe there are no “miracles”…

us dummies are still here…but what philosophy issues are important now for discussion…

There is no shortage of dummies here on ILP.
But there is precious little philosophy.

No miracles ever happen.
A miracle is by definition an event which confounds the laws of nature, and thus by definition does not occur except in the imagination of the weak minded.

QED: my post about 'precious little philosophy"

lev can you point to an important philosophy post on ilp

If I trawled though enough shit I probably could find something. DOn’t hold your breath though, I’m not sure I have the patience to wade, with hip-high rubber leggings.
Why do you ask?

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lev can you point to an important philosophy post on ilp
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If I trawled though enough shit I probably could find something. DOn’t hold your breath though, I’m not sure I have the patience to wade, with hip-high ribber leggings.
Why do you ask?

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I asked to see what you consider most important----what you value

who is that dummy that posted about human nature…that is really dumb…well you cant fix stupid

You asked
“lev can you point to an important philosophy post on ilp”

It’s not about value; It’s about what is or is not philosophy.

For example: this is in the ‘shit’ category, and not really philosophy.

are you joining us dummies…this is a very special group here…

Special, as in “Special Needs”?