Will machines completely replace all human beings?

Well of course, it was at least that much - an obvious false-flag. I was referring more to the exact details. And the key to a good false-flag is ensuring that the real truth is just too unbelievable to accept even if heard from the one who did it. The magician explains his magic trick and still isn’t believed (yet in this case, still having nothing at all to do with space aliens). And the key to that key is utilizing things of which people are not aware exist at all and would not even consider without a great deal of additional education. And that is what makes real events impossible to believe and thus excused by suspicions and false accusations (aka “Satanism”) = “False-Flag”.

“Nine Eleven” sounds almost like “Two Twenty-Seven”.

The humans are the only species that is capable of designing their own replacement as a species and thus their own extinction.

Actually Arminius, this post belongs on this thread too:

The reprogramming of a society begins with the mid-wives and nannies/media (whether human or machine).

Will immigrants completely replace all human beings?

But humans make design errors - often based on the randomness created by overconfidence - despite their intention to eliminate weaknesses they may perpetuate some, they may create new ones. Also the values they have about what is good may very well include weaknesses. You can see this in how even very smart people try to mold their own characters or their children’s characters. They Think have more X is good and less Y is good and these ideas, despite their lofty intentions and being applied by smart people often lead to really fucked up people. There is no reason to Believe this cannot happen with AIs. In fact I Think it is almost inevitable. Despite what we are Learning about the role of emotions in human intelligence - such as that they are necessary for intelligence - I would guess that a lot of the AI will consider emotions superfluous, being Cold fish themselves, they Think what the World needs are some really high powered genius Cold fish to run things.

Head for the Woods, I say, not that this will save you for long.

By the way, I am not saying that human weaknesses must be present, and unlike the optimists here I do not think that their presence would be any protection. I just see Cane Toad type phenomena in these kinds of things. And I doubt the various persons who thought Cane Toads were a solution realized how much the Cane Toads would parallel homo sapien weaknesses.

That is why they have contests with many people participating, such that they can weed out the best end result despite anyone’s theory of what should have been best. Then each year, everyone bases their next shot on the best of the previous year so as to improve it even further.

Except that unlike with children, AI’s can be reprogrammed when an error is discovered … over and over until no error is found. And also, unlike children, those running the competition determine what is “best”, not the “parents”. Those running the competition are interested in controlling the population and little else. Thus what is “best” is what most effectively allows that end result.

I grant you that there is a whole lot of stupidity involved in the process. And that is the actual problem. Machines are already not a little but rather 100 times more capable at everything than homosapian. So when they get designed a little incorrectly, they very, very quickly take a 100 fold advantage toward doing the wrong thing. The stupidity continues in that people always presume that they can spot what that wrong thing is when it happens. The fact is that the wrong thing is far too sophisticated and subtle for people to spot. An example is the baby-sitting robots introduced just last year that allowed the internet to not merely carry on conversations with infants, but also broadcast the infants situation throughout the internet: every sound in the house, every words spoken, video of every room, and even naked mommy. The little robots were parent accepted spies allowed to infiltrate as many homes as possible. The parents didn’t see any harm in the little robots … until they discovered that people were watching the every move and broadcasting the videos as well as preaching to the infants whatever some hacker chose to preach rather than what the sage internet system babysitter was supposed to program into their children.

People absolutely insist on doing the worst thing possible before yielding to any wisdom. The worst thing possible when it comes to beings 100 time more talented than you in every respect is to create them.

You wrote about the “Angel Network”:

I’m not sure if I understand the reason, why the Net doesn’t tell about any specific historical events. Is it in order to avoid influencing the group in their decisions by giving pure information/wisdom without examples of what has happened in the past, when those information was used in specific situations?
Hard to understand for somebody who learned already as a schoolkid how important it would be to learn from history, in order to prevent the recurrence of certain situations.

Sorry, I have been a bit busy lately (holidays n all).

The short answer - “It cannot lie”.

All material observations, most especially historical world “facts”, have a good deal of deception involved, when not entirely fictitious. Even if he tried, Man couldn’t document the real truth concerning any actual event other than to merely name it. And even by that act, create deception. The world is festering in lies because people from top to bottom use lies in an effort to avoid and divert reality (“Adham hiding from God”). When they are not lying to others, they are lying to themselves. To live without deception is to be “holy”. How many holy people do you know?

But unlike historically documented events and testimonies, abstract notions can be verified with certainty. Imagine if you were taught mathematics only by historically recorded events? How could you ever learn to add past 3? How did all of those people stem from “Adam and Eve”? All histories are myths, greatly distorted truths. None of them truly add up. But abstract quantities, “numbers”, can easily be verified and corrected if misrepresented, lied about. Logic never, ever lies. And when misrepresented or misunderstood, it can always be straightened back out … eventually. Such is not true with observations.

Who really saw what? Who really did what? Why? Where? Such questions are always argued about and never resolved. Suspicions and distrust escalate. Secret orders are formed. Hidden manipulation becomes the only means of survival and power. And all the while, what is the standard with which to determine truth? Logic - that which can never be wrong, although still misunderstood and thus always being verified.

And beyond all of the temptations to further deception for sake of power, is the issue of the freedom from presumptuous, naive, and judgmental people. Who did what is never as important as what needs doing next. The past is never as important as the future. Who is telling you about the past? Who is trying to influence your future by painting a picture for you to match their own interests? Just about everyone with any influence who wants to keep it. And just about everyone without significant influence who wants to gain it. It is easy to lie about the past … not so easy to lie about logic.

Strategies, “angels”, can be sorted and proven to be “good or bad” (given a particular use for them). Such is the very make of wisdom. “Good angels are used throughout heaven. Bad angels (ideas) are throughout hell.” But everyone is responsible for making their own little spot of heaven. And that means that they need access to the “angels”. What they don’t need is the temptations of presumption brought on by partial information, layered upon partial deception, layered upon out and out lies … regardless of the sources: “Place no temptation before them.”

The Angel Network is about Logic, Mathematics, Reasoning, and Real hardcore Science. It is of little interest to most people. The point of the Net is to ensure that everyone has access if they are interested and to ensure that every strategy against a person has an equal strategy available for him. When everyone knows all of the same strategies, it becomes difficult for people to dominate each other. Instead it becomes clear WHY things need to be done, not merely that someone out there demands it because once long ago someone did something bad and therefore no one can be allowed to do this or that forever more … by force (that “bad thing” that someone did).

The Angel Network is about possibilities and probabilities in abstract form. It is not about what everyone must do because of what someone did, regardless of their personal, immediate situation. That is not to say that historically recorded events are to be ignored. Such information has its place. But not distributed throughout a presumptuous and information overloaded world of crazed apes.

There are smaller, shorter range networks for more physically and directly related concerns. The Angel Network is for the “chess players”. The other networks are for the “doers”.

Look at your body. What does your finger know about, or care about your elbow? What does your nose care about the smell of your pancreas? Every human cell has need to know of its immediate surroundings … for an unavoidable reason, not merely by accident. But if every cell had to know about the good or bad of every other cell, or even if any one part of the body had to know about all other parts, the human body would never survive.

The segregation of information is what allows complex systems to thrive. But there are various types of information that must be segregated differently. SAM Coops allow for the great amount of relevant information to every individual considering the limits of everyone involved.

Yes. Reprogramming always starts with education because the young people are the most influenceable people.

There is also a great interest in the prevention of learning from history.

They can’t rewrite it if people keep learning it.

Yes, of course, that is also true, but the accent in your sentence is on the word “if”, because the problem is that the preventors of learning from history and the keepers of learnig from history have one point where they agree, and the preventors have more power.

They can pick away at it. Further they can cut down on the time and energy you have to learn history, but creating work scarcity and using effectivity programs at work to keep you stressed and paniced even after you get home and put your feet and do not crack that history book or haven’t the energy to do it with much critical intelligence.

Fact is that history is not the same as mathematics. And fact is also that the winner writes the history. The winner dictates, because the winner has the power, the victor’s justice and so on.

Only those who can and do keep history in mind and keep learning from history are capable of resisting the lies about history.

I think we should ban tampons, because a 14 year old girl died from leaving a tampon in too long. Tampons are a threat against civilization, thus we should ban them. We should also ban hurricanes too, because they kill a lot of people and damage a lot of property. Hurricanes are not good for the economy. This is a daycare, a babysitting game, and if one person does a bad thing, we all have to be punished, laws have to be changed, to teach us all a lesson and keep us safe. Soda bottles cause strife in the village and cause people to make war and be jealous, thus we should ban glass soda bottles, and switch to plastic, as it is more safe and harmonious with the village.

Sources:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_shock_syndrome
“The Gods Must Be Crazy” (1980 film)

Holiness seems to be a feminine feeling, guilt remorse, ethics and pleasure, are all feminine feelings. Morality and ethics is feminine. But women are liars, often indifferent to trouble, so how can they be holy? Children do not seem to be inherent liars, only women.

I suppose the key to this is androgeny, combining the logic and truth of man, with the holiness of a child.

Not to derail, but what do you imagine to be a “masculine feeling”?

Back to the topic by looking at the following picture:

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What do you think?

I think there will be smiling machines. I also think that the replacement will not be so one for one. Portions of jobs will be taken over, so employed humans will be fewer. This is happening in professional jobs also. But since it will not come soon that a HR manager is completely replaced, like we fire Hans and put C3PO at his desk, people will not realize that because many facets of HR work are already being taken over, such that companies can make a number of employees redundant in those departments, it is actually happening now, not in some more distant future when AI really comes into play. We already have smart enough machines to whittle down departments.

This is all being fussy, but I think that the skeptics see an image like that and think…oh, that’s not happening, when in fact it has been happening for a while and not just on assembly lines in, say, Japan, but in white collar jobs also and all over the world.