Sorry for the confusion. I’m just saying that the demiurges did not create Man, although some gnostics would believe they did. The God above all gods created both man and demigods (angels, if you will).
The God created Man in his own image.
I’d say God will reclaim, eventually, everything he has created. So, yes. We are all worth saving.
2op the Jews thought they had [and may have?] replaced all by including everything into one. that didn’t however, include all things feminine except in representative form e.g. Mary.
a solution to this would be to include the feminine, …then forget differences as superficial ~ eventually we arrive at something which is asexual.
God may be a quadrinity—Father, Mother, Son, Daughter. Or, perhaps all possible human relationships.
and of nature. is this the God of the bible though, or were they aiming toward this without knowing how to expound that?
The godless way forward for the good is spirituality… no-one holding you to ransom and telling you that you were born with original sin.
Yeah.
So … just lie to and keep secrets from the children?
That’s your idea for a better future?
… typical and quite in vogue.
What lies and secrets are they James?
Religion is the biggest lie.
Typical of what?
In vogue? I’ve been this way inclined as far as religion is concerned since 1984 when 14, and I was able to exercise that inclination around 17 when my mother could no longer force me to go to church… attend for a good Holy Sacrament or two, sure.
In this case, it seems that you believe that people are born free and clear of humanity’s past, as if no one has ever done anything that would cause continued hatreds (despite the constant use of such things to justify more hatred).
People are born with poor judgment, wanting from poor judgment, being taught poor judgement, and performing poor judgement. Being “in sin” merely means having “poor judgment” (just another of those secrets that you propose).
To remove your sins is to remove your poor judgement; to give you wisdom, intellect, awareness, and knowledge.
Your opinion … and without a better option to propose.
Opinionated, hypnotized, new-age drones, living in poor judgement.
It has been in vogue sine the 1950’s
“We” didn’t.
They merely call them something else. Now it is Quantum Physics.
I prefer spirituality to a religion… you are turning this into a battle.
I take my spirituality very seriously, so nothing to do with what’s trending, as it was far from trending where I live 
…like the Brits were “just turning it into a battle”.
To what period are you referring to James?
I am not native to this country… remember, so I do not harbour the same thoughts and feelings as a native Brit would. My natural inclination is towards an open awareness… rather than an enforced religion.
The only difference is that religion is more organized. Without organization, the people remain weak and malleable, thus controlled by unseen and un-blamed people (media) rather than people with known names and known claims.
It is all the same game, merely a different manipulation strategy.
Man is the great manipulator using money, media, and medicine.
We did not invent God(s). We invented a god concept that evolved according to our spiritual understanding. Bob was absolutely right on this point. By way of Greek and oriental influences, the Hebrew God became the Christian God. So what is the latest concept of God? Is it still locked into the understanding of ancient Hebrews and 1st century Christians?
Indeed he does.
Did we?
What about the new gods, for example the “scientific” gods.
I’d say the modern day version of god is false idols.
Good point.