Beautiful and Ugly

It was not an insult. It was just a comment that people are going to see different based upon education and emotion. It is a primitive perspective

mannequin warned and temporarily banned.

So calling someone ignorant and uneducated was not an insult…right…

Symterry is not beauty, Harrison ford has an asymettrical face and is rated as handsome.

For those of you into girls, here are some pics

Notice how the point of her hair is to make her face asymetrical, and thus more beautiful.

Here is some symetrical trash 4 u.

If the intent was to insult then it would be an insult. It is not the words or their meaning , it is intent.

So if i call someone fugly alls i gotta do is say “i had no intent to insult” n im good?

Haha! :laughing:

I agree with Prismatic that beauty facilitates survival, but just curious if further edification is possible on this topic.

You are deliberately twisting, why? What are you getting out of it? Is it a knee jerk reaction to defend?
Your reply does not merit a comment from me not explaination. Have a fun day.

You should have just said

So?

Beauty represents value.

both are in the eyes of the behonder, but there is no other thing. Than beholding “eyes” - perspectives.

Because perspectives group, to survive and gain power and procreate, their standards blend and combine and become what the unwashed think of as ‘objective truth’ or ‘universal standard’.

(like how a group of folks comes up with a story they all like and then decide it is the point to all being)

Beautiful…

Interestingly, the Fibonacci numbers show some noteworthly mathematical specific features:

Due to the relations to the previous and the following number growth in nature seems to follow an addition law. The Fibonacci numbers are directly associated with the golden cut. The further one progresses subsequently, the more the quotient of successive numbers approaches to the golden cut (1,6180339887…) - for example: 13:8=1.625; 21:13=1.6153846; 34:21=1.6190476; 55:34=1.6176471; 89:55=1.6181818; 144:89=1.617978; 233:144=1.6180556; … and so on). This approach is alternating - the quotients are alternately smaller and bigger than the golden cut (golden number, golden ratio):


The Fibonacci numbers are the sums of the „shallow“diagonals (shown in red) of Pascal’s triangle:

There is symmetry almost everywhere in that picture. The woman is very syymmetrical. Her face would be more beautiful if it was not covered. his covered face is nevertheless beautiful, because everyone knows how the face looks like if it is not covered. But what if she has only one eye? :wink:

Symmetry is not the only but one of the most important aspects of beauty. Others are shapeliness (well-proportioned aspects or things), certain geometrical figures, beings consisting of structures that are based on certain mathematical numbers (e.g.: the Fibonacci sequence or the golden cut).

Bullshit. She looks worse with her face covered.

Covering half the face, It’s a common trick pple use to make themselves look pretty.

Symmetry is not beautiful by itself but only when it is conditioned upon evolutionary factors such as survival, procreation, and the likes.

In addition some features are conditioned and relative to either male or female. What is beauty [aesthetic] to the male may not be beauty to the female and vice-versa.

Males find the higher hips to shoulder ratio more beautiful and sexy while the female will favor a higher shoulder to hips ratio. The hips to shoulder ratio in general has evolutionary advantage to mankind in terms of procreation and other advantages. A female with very small hips, thus smaller hips to shoulder ratio will likely to face birth difficulty in general.

Symmetry in the physical bodies of the male or female denote general [not specific] health of the person and thus has first impression significance. The physiological elements are controlled by two separate hemispheres in the brain. Any defects in one side [sign of non-symmetry] and thus an imbalance function in the brain. Wherever there is a significant difference between the two sides of the physical body, then there is a likely possible of something is wrong and the person is not as healthy as the average person.
Thus asymmetry is a sign and warning for the opposite sex or others to be careful and investigate further in making decisions that are relevant to the matter.

The above issues are instinctual and most people in the modern era do not bother about instincts and intuitions any way.

Any one into photography or art?
Re the aesthetic elements of photography or art [general, not modern], what is beauty in this fields are driven by evolutionary and survival elements.

The Rule of Thirds
digital-photography-school.com/rule-of-thirds/
In photography as in art [general] one must follow the Rule of Thirds generally to ensure one’s photograph is considered to have aesthetic [beauty] value.
This is directly linked to evolutionary elements of survival and the position of they eyes to hunt from food and dealing with enemies, etc.
By obeying the Rule of the Thirds, the main subject[s] are placed in alignment with the position of the two eyes and thus there is no stress and extra effort of the eyes to move from its normal position.

Subject in the Middle - A Taboo
In contrast, in general [there are exceptions, portraits, etc.] it is a serious Taboo to put the main subject in the middle. This is because the main subject in the middle forced the two eyes to focus into the center and away from its normal position and thus make one very uncomfortable if the focus need to be kept for a long time.

Level Horizon
If the horizon in a photograph is not level, then the photo is marked down in terms of aesthetic.
A level horizon is pertinent to facilitate hunting in the savannah or plains to assess the position of the prey [food]. An unlevel horizon in a photo can give many a headache as the brain has to use efforts to right it.

Note there are exceptions to the above, but they are besides the point.

So, what is beauty to humans is conditioned upon survival, procreation, and the continuation of the next generation of humans.
There is no intrinsic beauty by itself.

Women like broad shoulders and broad hips. Broad hips = more leg muscles.

The correlation stems from them not dating men who have small shoulders, since most of them give the weakling vibe and they don’t take them seriously.

Now are men really attracted to small shoulders or just wide hips.
Men are really just attracted to wide hips, they don’t care what shoulder size a woman has.

Symmetry is not the sole factor on which beauty is based.

Example: sunsets, the clouds reflecting the sun-light, are often lacking symmetry.

The sublime. It doesn’t necessarily facilitate survival either; finding sunsets beautiful is not essential, but it def. can be conducive.

Why so unkind?

No, because it is also true that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. So beauty has a subjective side too. Of course, I never said that symmetry was the sole, the only aspect of beauty. But symmetry is nevertheless a relevant aspect of beauty.

Because they know how the face looks like when it is not covered. And they want to make others curious. Do you not think that there is some psychology behind it?

Nobody here said that symmetry was the sole factor on which beauty is based. But that does not automatically mean that symmetry has nothing to do with beauty.

For example: Baroque gardens are full of symmetry, and that is the reason why some people do not like them as much as other gardens. But there are people too who like baroque gardens. And they have good reasons for liking baroque gardens. The aspect that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder is relevant too.