The Great Musician Frank Zappa and His Philosophy.

[Arminius]

Here is a video called "Frank Zappa Philosophy":

[Zoot Allures]

https://youtu.be/Hrt1P0UstzQ

Don Pardo gets excited when the band transitions into Pound for a Brown from I'm the Slime.

[Arminius]

Here is a video called "Frank Zappa Philosophy":

Was Zappa a Schopenhauerian?

[Arminius]

"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer." - Frank Zappa.

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Cheers!

[Arminius]

"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa.

[Arminius]

"I believe that people have a right to decide their own destiny; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only as long as) individual citizens give it a temporary license to exist - in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy you own the government - it doesn't own you. Along with this comes a responsibility to ensure that individual actions, in the pursuit of a personal destiny, do not threaten the well-being of others while the pursuit is in progress." - Frank Zappa.

[Arminius]

"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." - Frank Zappa.

[Arminius]

"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa.

[Arminius]

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U2FrNVjzwU.

[Mithus]

In addition: December 21 - the birthday of both Frank Zappa and Arminius.

[Arminius]

In addition: December 21 - the birthday of both Frank Zappa and Arminius.

Hey!

Thank you very much.

[surreptitious57]

Those with fixed opinions about music such as those expressed in this thread should understand that all
taste is subjective and you cannot therefore give a truly objective view about a musician or their music

[Arminius]

Zappa and drugs:

Zappa's output is unified by a conceptual continuity he termed "Project/Object", with numerous musical phrases, ideas, and characters reappearing across his albums. His lyrics reflected his iconoclastic views of established social and political processes, structures and movements, often humorously so. He was a strident critic of mainstream education and organized religion, and a forthright and passionate advocate for freedom of speech, self-education, political participation and the abolition of censorship. Unlike many other rock musicians of his era, he personally disapproved of and seldom used drugs, but supported their decriminalization and regulation.

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During the recording of Freak Out!, Zappa moved into a house in Laurel Canyon with friend Pamela Zarubica, who appeared on the album. The house became a meeting (and living) place for many LA musicians and groupies of the time, despite Zappa's disapproval of their illicit drug use.

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Zappa stated that he tried smoking cannabis ten times, but without any pleasure or result beyond sleepiness and sore throat, and "never used LSD, never used cocaine, never used heroin or any of that other stuff." Zappa stated, "Drugs do not become a problem until the person who uses the drugs does something to you, or does something that would affect your life that you don't want to have happen to you, like an airline pilot who crashes because he was full of drugs." He was a regular tobacco smoker for most of his life, and strongly critical of anti-tobacco campaigns.

While he disapproved of drug use, he criticized the War on Drugs, comparing it to alcohol prohibition, and stated that the United States Treasury would benefit from the decriminalization and regulation of drugs. Describing his philosophical views, Zappa stated, "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you.

[Alf]

Frank Zappa said:

"Don't expect friends, don't expect fun, don't expect a good life, don't expect anything; and if you get something, it's a bonus."

[Ultimate Philosophy 1001]

Frank Zappa said:

"Don't expect friends, don't expect fun, don't expect a good life, don't expect anything; and if you get something, it's a bonus."

I never expected to be born, so the forces that forced me to be born against my consent better damn well give me some kind of compensation.

[promethean75]

the theory: originally, record production was owned and run by older people who weren't 'hip' to the tastes of the consumer public. during this period there was more experimental freedom given to artists; when a band appeared with a demo tape, the production owner was willing to give the music a chance and sign the band... because he had no idea what the consumer public didn't like. this period existed before rigid trends developed among the different genres. then, a younger generation began to own and run these production companies... and with this happened a significant narrowing of experimental freedom for artists. instead of taking a risk in producing an unfamiliar kind of music (as older owners did), they looked explicitly for a specific and predictable sound that was similar enough to what was already popular. and thus began the trend of drawing rigid lines between genres and following formulas.





@3:15. on the musical illiteracy of the consumer public (a condition fostered by the invention of the 'music video').



we notice this now, especially, in modern music video; the emphasis on theatrics, histrionics, costume, dancing and stage performance rather than the music itself.

[promethean75]

tired of the same old crap on all the pop stations, i tuned in to a local college station that plays underground grunge and rock. fuck it, i'll give it a chance, right? i figure the odds be...

[promethean75]

[surreptitious75]

He is right that classical music would be more popular with the younger generation if it was presented in video format for them
But this is a sad commentary on attention spans as they cannot just listen to music without needing something to watch as well

[surreptitious75]

we notice this now especially in modern music video : the emphasis on theatrics histrionics costume dancing and stage performance rather than the music

Many bands have been fashion conscious but it only becomes a problem when it is more important than the music
That is to say when the image is given greater emphasis over it when in fact they should really be complementary

The most blatant example of this is Kiss who despite being one of the biggest rock bands ever have a very average back catalogue if truth be told
Their stage presence is out of total proportion to their actual musical ability and they have less than a handful of truly great tracks to their name

Compare that to David Bowie who was also fashion conscious but never allowed it to become more important than the actual music
Not even at the peak of his career when he was Ziggy Stardust for even if he did not dress up at all the music would still be fantastic

There is a right way to mix music and fashion and a wrong way and Bowie is the former and Kiss are the latter and everyone else is somewhere in between them
Kiss actually went through an existential crisis in I983 when they decided to remove their make up but a truly great band would not be worrying about this at all

[surreptitious75]

Those old lost interviews are excellent to watch for such a uniquely talented and perceptive man he was

[promethean75]

Did a booger-bear
Come from somewhere out there
Just to land in the Andes?
Was she round
And did she have a motor
Or was she something different
Guacamole Queen
Guacamole Queen
Guacamole Queen
At the Armadillo in Austin Texas, her aura,
Or did someone build a place
Or leave a space for Chester's Thing to land
(Chester's Thing . . . on Ruth)
Did a booger-bear
Come from somewhere out there
Did a booger-bear
Come from somewhere out there
Did the Indians, first on the bill
Carve up her hill

[promethean75]

[promethean75]

[promethean75]

but... wait this can't be right. she's not supposed... this is... she's not... look she shouldn't be... wtf fuck man. i need a drink of water.