Government

The question was not only what the Romans had done for them.

The question was also and especially why the Romans were not at home.

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Better to be a barbarian savage free than civilized trapped in an elaborate cage.

Although or because (!) he had become a Roman citizen and officer, the German Arminius (18 B.C. - 21 A.D.) decided to fight against the Romans and to become a free German again.

In the year 12 B.C. Arminius’ homeland became a Roman province.

In the year 9 A.D. it became part of the free Germany (Germania Magna) again.

Better death than dishonor. Better being dead than enslaved.

This motto is also true when it comes to thinking and can be seen as the reason or motif for my username here.

Arminius, by tradition of the German side of my family it is said it can be traced all the way back to the ancient Alemanni.

Really?

Yes, really.

Do you know the names of those ancient ancestors?

…who or what were the ancient Alemanni?

Are you joking?

Some historical maps for you:

Can you start with that?

Or are you just joking?

I found a historical timeline of the Alemanni, but the maps look pretty :slight_smile:

I will continue reading up on them, later… and no, I wasn’t joking :wink:

Fine. :slight_smile:

Strasbourg area and I’ll say no more as I am not going to go into a great deal over it derailing the thread.

They were the last pagan Germans that were slaughtered by the Franks for their unwillingness to convert to Christianity whose descendants are many in southern Germany especially of Bavarian ancestory.

I only know that my family name comes from the area and I’m unwilling to post that information online.

I’ll leave you with this Arminius only, my last name in German means hill people and the family on my German side came to the United States after the Hecker uprising in the late 1800’s.

The dominant portion of my family is German with some French admixture and still yet on my father’s side there is small portion that is Austro-Hungarian.

The Franks were and are Germans too. The Franks are (1) the ancestors of the current Franken who live especially in the North of Bayern (Bavaria), in the East of Württemberg (Wuerttemberg), in the Southwest of Hessen (Hesse, Hessia), and - as Nether-Franks - in Rheinland-Pfalz (Rhineland-Palatinate), in the West (Nordrhein) of Nordrhein-Westfalen (North Rhine-Westphalia), in parts of the so-called “Netherlands” and Belgium; and they also are (2) the ancestors of the most French.

Some Franks - as well as e.g. Saxons, Angles, Jutes et al. - stayed where they were at that said time, others moved on and conquered foreign territories where they later founded kingdoms.

So now we can talk about “kingdom as a form of government”.

Yes, I know this Arminius. I just view it as a tragedy how the last of the Alemanni succumbed to Frank Christians. I’m of the mind Europe would of been better off staying pagan as I detest Christianity. Thousands of Alemanni women, men, and children were slaughtered for not accepting the Christ god.