Propaganda BS.
I should have had a V-8 (rather than read Peterās nonsense)!
K: is the fact that Robert Lee fought for the south really Propaganda?
then you are far more confused then I can help you withā¦
I would recommend professional help for anyone who thinks that
Robert Lee fighting for the south and slavery is āPROPAGANDAā
it is a factā¦ and no amount of denial will allow you to think that
Lee fighting for the south and slavery is Propagandaā¦
Kropotkin
Peter, you are peddling propaganda, not about Robert E. Lee, but about lumping all protesters into a terrorist group.
K: if I were you and in denial about reality, I too would rather drink a V-8,ā¦ with vodkaā¦
but hay, I admit it is hard work to stay with realityā¦ sometimes reality hurts,
it is far better for you to remain in your fantasy land and think your happy thoughts
about how you are about hate and violence and racismā¦ remember the messageā¦
WendyDarling loves hate and violence and racismā¦ that is the message you are sending
todayā¦ and the message we hearā¦
Kropotkin
If that is what you got out of what I wrote, I must 
at you.
K: I didnāt āLump all protesters into a terrorist groupāā¦
I lumped neo-naziās and white nationalist and KKK as members
of a terrorist groupā¦ and they areā¦they peddle a message of
hate and violence and racism/sexism/ageism/anti-Semite messageā¦
and that is no different then the message of Muslim terroristā¦
a another message of hate and violence and racism/sexism/ ageism/ ant-Semiteā¦
if you are not of us, you are against usā¦ is the message of the Muslim
terrorists and the same message of hate and violence and racism/ā¦
and the same message from white nationalist/neo-Nazi/KKKā¦terroristsā¦
call them what they areā¦ TERRORISTSā¦ and get it over withā¦
Kropotkin
K: as I am hearing impaired, I am very aware of the message people send and your
message is quite clearā¦ you defend the message of hate and violence and racism/ā¦
because you approve that message and your message was received quite clearlyā¦
I would suggest you remain with the denial phaseā¦ it really works for youā¦
Kropotkin
So, there is no middle ground with you. You are an extremist on the left and if I do not agree with your extremism, then I am on the right extreme? I need another V-8 and Iāll add some Vodka (God knows you drive sane people to drink.)
K: first of all, you think inside your head that because I am of the left, I MUST be an extremist
and I am notā¦ I am actually a moderateā¦ but because of your vision and message
about yourself, you just think I am an extremistā¦so we are clearā¦ how is my message
of love and tolerance and understandingā¦ EXTREME? that is my message and your message
is of hate and violence and racism/ā¦so who here is really extreme?
love or hate? that is the both the question and the answerā¦ I pick love and you have
picked hateā¦ so is my message of love really extreme and if you think love is extreme,
then you really, really, REALLY, need to rethink your understanding of the universeā¦
Kropotkin
You put words in my mouth Peter which is extreme and your words do not encourage love, tolerance and understanding. I have not stated that I support hate, violence, or racism, yet you state that I do. I know, you accuse me of preposterous things in the name of your kind of higher love and tolerance, and understanding. You are amusing. 
Wendy, you sound a lot like you support white nationalism, how is that not a racist ideology?
Supporting the health of your race does not harm another race and its a far cry from terrorism. I would like to see white Americans remain in America by coupling and reproducing and creating healthy families as any race wishes for their own race. I donāt wish for any race to be illegitimized and kept from enjoying their race.
I disagree that āany race wishes [that] for their own raceā. I donāt think most people have any particular allegiance to their own race, and I donāt think people should. Moreover, it seems racist to say that white people should only marry white people (anti-miscegenation usually being part of white nationalism). It seems racist to say that we should prioritize white culture over the many other cultural heritages of the US. It seems racist to say that we should have monuments to people whose sole fame was in betraying the US in order to protect the obviously racist institution of chattel slavery.
All of that seems pretty damned racist. And thatās all entailed by the normal understanding of white nationalism (and thatās leaving alone the common white nationalist position that people that arenāt white should leave the US, which is super duper damned racist).
K: the problem with your post is simply thisā¦ there is not such thing as pure raceā¦just
about every human being alive is a mix of everythingā¦ I am a mix of English and Irish
and welsh and French and even some Africanā¦ I cannot claim to be āpureā and virtually
no one else on planet earth can claim to be āpureāā¦ race is a mixed thing and
so to enjoy āraceā, which race would you suggest we enjoy? the so called āWhiteā race
really doesnāt exists as we are a mix of all kinds of racesā¦
white power is really about mix race powerā¦ which mix race do you wish to enjoy
and create new little mix race children?
Kropotkin
No, your points are so easily detected that even the dumbest of four year olds can comprehend them but comparing your views to four year olds is a insult to four year olds everywhere.
Entering the next epoch of centralized neofeudalism (under the control of international banks and corporations) is one that is controlled by corporations, let us call it corporate neofeudalism.
So what you are saying is that you are ashamed of white people and donāt believe that white people have the right to exist without harassment by folks like you, folks who are racists against whites?
So are you white or some other more acceptable race? You canāt be white, you are not allowed to identify as such or you are a racist white nationalist terrorist?
Quote me where I said that white people SHOULD ONLY marry white people. I did say that I would like to see whites in America fifty years from now, I did say something along those lines. Stop projecting what you want me to have said rather than what I actually said.
What cultural heritages are being overlooked? The Native Americans? The left needs to disassemble all of the monuments and history to those praised for their leadership while they committed genocide against the many Native American tribes. None of the Presidents should be memorialized without being condemned equally for their parts in genocides across this country, same goes for the military commanders. While we are on the subject of condemnation, we need to prosecute all living political figures who took part in condoning strikes which killed civilian populations of countries all over the globe. They all need to be tried for war crimes, crimes against humanity. Doesnāt any of that matter because people are dying now due to it, killing other civilians, other races indiscriminately?
Carleas, Iām a white European separatist not a national socialist, supremacist, or any other kind of affiliation. I would debate you if you accepted to debate me on this whole issue as I find your overall views or beliefs skewed.
Add PayPal to the list. There are a few things to separate.
Companies should be able to pursue their values & interests, within the law. To that end, every business has the duty to notify its clients/users of their terms of service (e.g. acceptable use policy) and the freedom to act on it.
Like people, companies should be consistent and keep their end of a bargain, but they must also have the freedom update their policies and terms.
Protections against censorship are not absolute, perhaps cannot be. We would like to see bad ideas defeated by good ideas, not censored. But ideas often alight far too quickly, and at scale, for the war of ideas to play itself out.
Governments most of all should endeavor to preserve (or to enable people to preserve) the delicate balance between sufficient freedom to and sufficient freedom from, for all citizens. Freedom isnāt free, not only because it must sometimes be fought for but also because to preserve it is to steward and rein it. It is backbreaking toil, labor, and commitment to cultivate civilization; it demands vision for the future and self-law to ensure that that future isnāt sacrificed for lesser, fleeting passions.
Yep. The problem is that people too often idealize freedom while having little respect for the autonomy of others to speak and act. Companies should have those powers, and those powers should be bounded by limits and checks.
Some things I wonder about - Is net neutrality an anti-corporate position? What is the extent to which companies can control their participation in unacceptable speech?