challenge to those who attack globalism

Both capitalism and communism are flawed which I why I am a supporter of a third alternative whatever that may be. The United States is overrun with crony capitalists and communists where we need to purge both groups from existence.

It’s very much alive in China. However, communism under a corporate global government will happen rather than any capitalist spin, that’s why I am vehement. Right now in the USA government, the corporations are only calling some of the shots, not all of them yet.

K: paid shill? then someone forgot to send me a check…and as I have mention but
because it doesn’t fit your already preconceived notions you won’t bring up, I am
in fact, not a communist…I know such distinction are little above your understanding,
but at least try to escape your preconceived idea’s…I have been very opened
about my idea’s for years, I never hid them, there was no closet to escape from…
now my idea’s have evolved, yes, but idea’s should evolve and change and adapt
to ever newer situations… I don’t have the same idea’s at 58 that I did at 38 or 28
or 18…evolving idea’s, changing to adapt to new situations, you may want to try that
entertain a new idea… see how it fits… idea’s are like clothes, it helps to change
them ever so often or otherwise they stink…

Kropotkin

What are you Peter?

Communism is pure evil anti-human, irrational, insane, murderous, soul-devouring, freedom-destroying, self-hating ideology of fantasizing against reality. Communism is literally a cultural-societal suicide button. I’ve done the theoretical work here outlining exactly why this is in philosophical terms, which I will not sully by posting at ILP. Wendy is free to request it via PM though.

Capitalism is the antithesis of communism. To equate the two is pathologically stupid, thus a sign of communistic thinking. The Red Scare was justified and that threat never went away, it has become much worse. We need a Red Scare awareness today that dwarfs what happened in the 50s-60s.

Only this time it has nothing to do with Russia. The USSR infected the west with Marxist communist poison and traitors like PKommie spread it. Now academia, entertainment, and politics are almost entirely dominated by capitalism hating, liberty hating, individual rights hating, rationality hating, America hating communist traitors.

The new Red Scare is awareness of the mortal danger of Marxism. Funny enough, Russia has overcome that danger far more than has the west. The current form of globalism is Marxist to the core, and trying to destroy Russia as well, so what does they tell you?

Positive values: reality, family, liberty, individual rights, self-defense, emotional stability, thoughtful, minimal government, free market localistic capitalism.

Negative values: fantasy, hatred of one’s family, tyranny, loss of individual rights, no right or ability to self-defense, emotional instability, allergic to thinking, statist big government, neoliberal fake capitalism of crony corporatocratic monopoly authoritarian top-down command and control economy.

Otto said he would support a new type of ideology not of socialism/communism or crony capitalism, but what? What people…think? Create…ideas are needed.

We already have all the good and working ideologies we need. Individualism, rationalism, secularism, liberty and natural human rights, free market localist capitalism, and minimal government highly constrained by a Constitution into separation of powers and limited to the sole purpose of protecting the rights and freedoms of the people.

The government does not represent the people, the people represent the government, and the government’s only legitimate purpose and function is to protect the rights and freedoms of the people who are representative of that social political system. I think the problem is that the Founders saw government as properly representing the people, but this puts the power and initiative in the hands of government even if only indirectly, thus no amount of safeguards in the Constitution can protect you from that government expanding forever in its necessary role and function of “representing you”.

Rather, the government needs to be defined as that which the people represent: the most rational, philosophical, sane and reality-oriented compact of laws designed for the sole purpose of instantiating and protecting the rights and freedoms of the people. The people representing themselves, in other words, with government merely a symbol of that.

Ehm…

no, Peter, you have not give your position.

And this site consists for about 20 percent of thorough arguments against globalism.

I agree that it should be how you framed it, but our government is corrupt and not representational of its majority but rather corporate greed.

Something new must be added into the mix so that we regain our alignment with sanity. There is no way for the citizens to police the Congress…they are free to be as corrupt as they wish to be (and that’s pretty fucking corrupt currently) while in office from 2-6 years.

Who polices our Congress…themselves…that’s laughable?

Corruption isn’t even the problem. Corruption is actually desirable at a low level, you simply need to manage it from getting out of hand. What is the real problems is the very notion of “being represented” in the first place – I do not need some fucker in a suit to represent me, I will represent myself, thank you very much. I do not need a government so dymanic and massive that it is constantly expanding and rewriting and adding to its own laws and powers under the false premise of needing to always “represent the people a little bit better”. All I need is a government with a fixed number of rational, clear, sane laws and powers that does not change over time. The dynamism and “living Constitution” notion of law is absurd bullshit and just an excuse for statism.

Once we stop wanting Daddy Government to “represent” us, we can start fixing the problems. On the Left you have idiots wanting Daddy Government to literally care for them and take care of their every need and desire, while on the Right you have idiots wanting Daddy Government to exist to literally “represent them” and their every little interest and concern. In both cases you have douchebags too lazy and self-righteous to fucking stand up for themselves and care for themselves and represent their own interests. Once you rent out your capacity to represent your own interest to someone else, you are fucked, you no longer exist as a concrete, coherent entity.

Your talking in terms of idealism not realism. Either we have a government of people who represent more people or we have no government, with literally no representation. I offered a new form of government and James S Saint offered his SAM Co-ops. An empty government has no ultimate decision makers or tie breakers and that won’t do.

What I want is a much smaller and more fixed government, one that cannot grow because it is expressly prohibited from growing, and also because there is no need for it to grow. Obviously you will have people working in whatever government functions and jobs end up existing. But the government will not exist to “care for you” nor to “represent you”; it will simply exist to carry out certain clearly delimited operations as defined by its charter or Constitution. All other functions and operations would be left to the people themselves, and to market capitalism.

The RedScare was goofy, silly, political hyperbole and propaganda.

Communism is not inherently evil and neither is capitalism, they are both tools and systems which can be repurposed for good or evil.
Personally I am all for a blend of the two used in different ways, like instead of wasting 90% of our food in America we give it to starving people, but if you make a good product you get to be rich.
It’s just that, the system is so rigged and setup in such a way where everyone is constantly in debt from college, medical bills and so with capitalism you just have these monopoly companies like Viacom, WB and all of these monolith companies that you have to suck their dick if you want to get ahead somewhere, and because of capitalism we have this global banking Oligarchy which is trying to take over the world and tell us what to do. Monopoly was a board game meant to warn of the dangers and possible far-reaching, future effects of capitalism.

Furthermore, the fact that modern libs want to take away all of our rights and freedoms and liberties has very little to do with any economic systems, moreso it has to do with their brain chemistry and how their brain functions, and how they view ethics.

I said before, Modern libs have a very similar psychology to Nazis of the 50’s, they are like borg, obedient to group dogma and hateful to anything outside the dogma, they are collective thinkers, the safety of the group is more important to the individual, republicans are individualists, care about themselves primarily and the group secondarily, this is why they fight for personal freedoms and liberties as opposed to a hypothetical safety net. And as a reflection of their brain chemistry, republicans are attracted to capitalism because at first glance, it seems to espouse personal freedoms and liberties, but under deeper introspection you realize that the game’s dried up, people born long before you already had a stake in the gold, and you’re fighting against ancient monopolies, the games already over, a society that worships money is actually the opposite of freedom.

No, the Red Scare was indeed silly, but it was actually a crude manifestation of a much more real, serious and subtle problem: the creeping into the USA of Marxist Leftist thought. The Red Scare (the whole “is my neighbor a Soviet spy?” sort of thing) was just a sort of crude unconscious projection of the American people intuitively understanding this dire threat.

So the citizens would be in charge of their own security domestic and abroad? Government militia protect their people and provide aid in times of disasters, thus caring for you. Government officials represent their citizens, thus representing you in the actions it takes. You are being too narrow-minded in your scope of what the government does. I agree it needs to be smaller and not filled with career politicians, but smart, typical citizens who have a great deal of common sense. What about monopolies? How do we spread the wealth back into the hands of the workers, the consumers? How do you keep markets free and fair? Cunning folks who work in gangs, particularly in market capitalism, impoverish the rest of society.
Why else do you think there is so much Jew hate?

Indeed, and I am not an anarchist or anarcho-capitalist at all, I hate those ideologies.

What is needed is to outline a list of all necessary and sufficient functions of government, make sure the list gets everything that needs to be in there and nothing more, and then instantiate that list into law as Constitution that can never be changed.

I think a lot of the operations that government currently provides do not really need to be provided by government. Or rather, the entire nature of what government means needs to be re-thought from the ground up, even if we keep these operations under a heading of something like “public utility” or similar.

We have to amend what we already have.

Or start over from the ground up, if need be.

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Both. SAM provides for that.

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