Medieval Diseases Are Infecting California’s Homeless

Maybe you should read the link that you posted because it describes problems throughout California.

Or you could be a modern Diogenes :laughing:

The point of vaccines is to stop the spread to others. You may or may not care if you get infected yourself (though you’ll probably care once you do get infected), but that’s not the point. If enough people vaccinate, the disease gets wiped out, THEN you can be careless and won’t even need to care about getting infected with the disease.

I can understand why people don’t like indirect arguments. Hell for every Republican president there was a Democratic one before him - it seems so wishy-washy to blame the presence of one given the presence of the other, historically and/or geographically. Even the Democrats are pro-capitalistic, at least to an extent, just less than the Republicans. The more the Republican presence, which is even more pronounced with a Republican president when it could otherwise have faded away, the more Capitalism. And the more Capitalism at the presidential level, the more Capitalism spills over to each state, even if it is currently Democrat. One industry high in Capitalism, pharmaceuticals makes more money from treating than curing, and more money from more people needing treatment. The incentive is to allow medieval diseases to re-emerge - recreating a demand so they can invest in the supply.

So through the nature of disease, how to tackle it, through Capitalist incentives, to Republican presence, to the president swinging the whole country in that direction even today - yes Chump and MAGA are indirectly implicated. Doesn’t mean they directly caused it, that’s not the argument. Doesn’t mean Chump is the sole cause, without whom we would all be saved - that’s just current circumstance.

I guess you missed this:

Throughout the 20th century and up until 2016, it was known for its political conservatism and for being a bastion for the Republican Party, with a 2005 academic study listing three Orange County cities as among America’s 25 most conservative. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_County,_California

3 of the 25 most conservative cities were in Orange County.

After decades of Republican victories, here’s how California became a blue state again

Evolution through time:

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I’ve studied the states the same way I studied the private consumption as % of gdp related to prosperity. Where republicans go, poverty follows. There is no denying the correlation. (Well, there’s no HONEST way to deny the correlation.)

Republican places are where wages are lowest, median incomes are lowest, poverty and crime are highest, and education is lowest.

Evidently I’m not the only one to notice:

Pretty much as expected. Blame it on the other guy and the other party. Ignore your own failures and the failures of your party.

Yeah that’s pretty much what you’re doing.

You ignore mountains of evidence to defend your dogma just like these people:

Why is Mississippi the poorest state and also the most conservative? (Hint: boneheaded dogmatists)

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9kI_rAFuKA[/youtube]

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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTACH1eVIaA[/youtube]

Now that’s some boneheaded fans!

Facts don’t matter.
What he does doesn’t matter.
How many lies he tells doesn’t matter (he’s up to 9000 btw).

All that matters is they utterly refuse to change their minds. Who would brag that? :confusion-shrug:

K: please feel free to argue with the evidence instead of an attack on Seredippity.

The evidence is quite clear… red states are far less economically
prosperous and much more welfare states… blue states by and large
send in far more taxes then red states and blue states receive far less
in benefits then red states. for example, after the GOP got finished with
both Kansas and Wisconsin, they were almost economically destroyed.

It will take years to recover from the GOP tax give away in both states
and the attack upon the infrastructure that occured afterwards…

In both states, the educational system was demolished and that might
not recover…

so feel free to attack me instead of dealing with the evidence…
it seems to be the go to move of the right… attack the person instead
of dealing with the facts presented in the post…

Kropotkin

Tetanus jabs contain mercury? :open_mouth:

No wonder the jab I had in march 2017 aggravated my already-aggravated chronic fatigue, (which was initially triggered by an anesthetic jab), by tenfold… and the stupid dumb b*tch of a Pharmacist said that it just contained the vaccine, and saline… she obviously doesn’t know what constitutes a vaccine. #-o I wouldn’t have had it if I’d known… and my cousin got fatigued by his tetanus jab that he had around the same time as me… we were a sad sight to behold. :frowning:

…now that would take me years to recover from… but, then again, your jabs might not contain the same cell-disrupting chemicals that the EU have slowly been adding into our food and medicine chains… apparently we’ve been in a cold war for some time now.

:laughing:

Tying consequences to one doesn’t mean not tying them to others. As I stated, Republicans are simply more Capitalistic than Democrats, a matter of extents once more, which I explicitly stated.

Your fallacy is affirming a disjunct, so no, your “expectation” was as invalid as your conclusion.

Add to that a relevance fallacy with your mention of “your own failures”.

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Thanks man :slight_smile:

I can verify the Kansas failed experiment. I saw a documentary on that.

Failed tax-cut experiment in Kansas should guide national leaders

[i]In rejecting Republican gubernatorial candidate Kris Kobach, who advocated restoration of the Brownback experiment, Kansas voters on Election Day put the final nail in the coffin of what even Republican leaders had come to see as a disastrous set of tax and spending cuts that ruined the Kansas economy.

In 2012 and 2013, Republican Gov. Sam Brownback signed into law the largest tax cuts in Kansas history. The top state income tax rate fell by nearly one-third and passthrough taxes that affected mainly relatively wealthy individuals were eliminated. With the decline in revenues came significant spending cuts in numerous areas.

Brownback’s experiment was such a failure that his party turned against him. In 2017, the Republican-dominated legislature, overriding the governor’s veto, rolled back the tax cuts. [/i]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcLoBdkqxos[/youtube]

I dunno, maybe? If they do, I’m more scared of the tetanus than the mercury.

According to the cdc there is no telling what your jab contained unless you know for sure which vaccine it was cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/dtap-t … ccine.html

The thimerosal supposedly contains the mercury.

Thimerosal is a mercury-based preservative that has been used for decades in the United States in multi-dose vials

Admittedly, I got a lil sick feeling too, but it went away after a day or two.

Yes, the EU’s heavy-handed dictation of every detail would scare me. Or course our system of making guinea pigs of citizens only to receive slaps-on-the-wrist class-action lawsuits afterward isn’t any better. They make billions in profits in exchange for paying $100 million lawsuit.

You’ve no idea what I’ve endured at hospitals which is why I don’t go near them unless visiting other people. I used to have to go for allergy shots weekly after school, which ruined my whole day. And I don’t even have allergies! Never did. What I had was a munchhausen’s syndrome mom.

High five! :smiley:

right on man

I don’t live in your country and I have no stake in your dumbass politics. (In fact if I was considering self-interest, it would probably be better for me if Trump was gone.)

I’m looking at this as an outsider. If I say that you’re not assigning blame correctly, it’s because I really think that you are not assigning blame correctly. You just really, really want to believe that I am biased and you are not biased.

You guys are constantly demonizing conservatives, republicans and the GOP. You whitewash liberals and democrats. You are ridiculously partisan. You have nothing constructive to say. You are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Which fallacy is this, pompous pedant?

You rang? :mrgreen:

Oh, it’s the same one. At least as far as I’m concerned, I’m not whitewashing anyone. If you hadn’t looked it up, affirming a disjunct is concluding e.g. that if Republicans are stated as guilty then Democrats are not: A|A v B ∴ ¬B

You’re still doing this:

I don’t harbour disrespect for you, phyllo, I seem to remember you being a prominent and valid voice in the science forum a few years ago - my superior in that field.
We’ve fallen on different sides in some recent political topics, though I don’t believe we’re on different sides. I’d like to see some more of what I remember of you, whether you would care to oblige me or not. I apologise for any pomposity behind my pendantry, but I don’t think it’s justifiable for you to be offended by my application of logic to your arguments.

The governator was a republican. Devin Nunes is a republican. I’m sure there are plenty more.

This is like when that CNN freak went to a part of the US border that had a wall and pointed out how no illegal immigration was happening there, ostensibly somehow to rebuke Trump.

It’s like they don’t even notice.

Of course, no serious argument can be made against (much less for) this. It is the argument formation of a preschooler.

Like that beautiful passage, “if everybody prints money at the same time, then you won’t get inflation!”

It’s… It’s really something.

Yet you seem intent on meddling from the comforts of your socialist paradise just the same.

Well duh.

You are biased. You meet a mountain of evidence and continue to dig in, completely undaunted by an ever-growing litany of facts.

Exactly!

It’s borderline tu quoque or “whataboutism” when someone makes a point about A, you say “well what about B?” or “what about you?”

What about democrats? Well what about them? The fact that some of them are conservatives who label themselves democrats means democrats are just as bad?

Hillary Clinton:

[i]She was raised in a politically conservative household,[9] and she helped canvass Chicago’s South Side at age 13 after the very close 1960 U.S. presidential election. She saw evidence of electoral fraud (such as voting list entries showing addresses that were empty lots) against Republican candidate Richard Nixon,[21] and later volunteered to campaign for Republican candidate Barry Goldwater in the U.S. presidential election of 1964.[22]

Rodham’s early political development was shaped mostly by her high school history teacher (like her father, a fervent anti-communist), who introduced her to Goldwater’s The Conscience of a Conservative and by her Methodist youth minister.

In 1965, Rodham enrolled at Wellesley College, where she majored in political science.[24][25] During her freshman year, she served as president of the Wellesley Young Republicans.[26][27] As the leader of this “Rockefeller Republican”-oriented group,[28] she supported the elections of moderate Republicans John Lindsay to Mayor of New York City and Massachusetts Attorney General Edward Brooke to the United States Senate.[29] She later stepped down from this position. In 2003 Clinton would write that her views concerning the American Civil Rights Movement and the Vietnam War were changing in her early college years.[26] In a letter to her youth minister at that time, she described herself as “a mind conservative and a heart liberal”.[30]

To help her better understand her changing political views, Professor Alan Schechter assigned Rodham to intern at the House Republican Conference and she attended the “Wellesley in Washington” summer program.[33] Rodham was invited by moderate New York Republican Representative Charles Goodell to help Governor Nelson Rockefeller’s late-entry campaign for the Republican nomination.[33] Rodham attended the 1968 Republican National Convention in Miami Beach. However, she was upset by the way Richard Nixon’s campaign portrayed Rockefeller and by what she perceived as the convention’s “veiled” racist messages and left the Republican Party for good.[33][/i] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

If not for republican racism, she’d be a republican.

She’s an economic conservative who happens to have a heart for social justice. So for all intents and purposes, she is a conservative. If she wears a democratic badge, so what?

I could paint the same sort of picture of Merkel.

But this is all beside the point that conservative ideals, held and advocated by who-the-hell-ever, are deleterious to the people which is evidenced by anywhere you look and by any metric you choose.

Who said that? :confusion-shrug: Not me. [-X

I said if everyone prints, you won’t get currency devaluation because currencies are valued relative to other currencies.

You have the mistaken notion that money printing is synonymous with price inflation, but you have no idea by what mechanism it possibly could, because you didn’t arrive at that idea as a conclusion, but bought it from a college dropout flunkout asserting economics is just common sense, and now in your endeavor to be praised for your insight, you’re exhibiting your ignorance; a kinda wardrobe malfunction :laughing: