Medieval Diseases Are Infecting California’s Homeless

I dunno, maybe? If they do, I’m more scared of the tetanus than the mercury.

According to the cdc there is no telling what your jab contained unless you know for sure which vaccine it was cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/dtap-t … ccine.html

The thimerosal supposedly contains the mercury.

Thimerosal is a mercury-based preservative that has been used for decades in the United States in multi-dose vials

Admittedly, I got a lil sick feeling too, but it went away after a day or two.

Yes, the EU’s heavy-handed dictation of every detail would scare me. Or course our system of making guinea pigs of citizens only to receive slaps-on-the-wrist class-action lawsuits afterward isn’t any better. They make billions in profits in exchange for paying $100 million lawsuit.

You’ve no idea what I’ve endured at hospitals which is why I don’t go near them unless visiting other people. I used to have to go for allergy shots weekly after school, which ruined my whole day. And I don’t even have allergies! Never did. What I had was a munchhausen’s syndrome mom.

High five! :smiley:

right on man

I don’t live in your country and I have no stake in your dumbass politics. (In fact if I was considering self-interest, it would probably be better for me if Trump was gone.)

I’m looking at this as an outsider. If I say that you’re not assigning blame correctly, it’s because I really think that you are not assigning blame correctly. You just really, really want to believe that I am biased and you are not biased.

You guys are constantly demonizing conservatives, republicans and the GOP. You whitewash liberals and democrats. You are ridiculously partisan. You have nothing constructive to say. You are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Which fallacy is this, pompous pedant?

You rang? :mrgreen:

Oh, it’s the same one. At least as far as I’m concerned, I’m not whitewashing anyone. If you hadn’t looked it up, affirming a disjunct is concluding e.g. that if Republicans are stated as guilty then Democrats are not: A|A v B ∴ ¬B

You’re still doing this:

I don’t harbour disrespect for you, phyllo, I seem to remember you being a prominent and valid voice in the science forum a few years ago - my superior in that field.
We’ve fallen on different sides in some recent political topics, though I don’t believe we’re on different sides. I’d like to see some more of what I remember of you, whether you would care to oblige me or not. I apologise for any pomposity behind my pendantry, but I don’t think it’s justifiable for you to be offended by my application of logic to your arguments.

The governator was a republican. Devin Nunes is a republican. I’m sure there are plenty more.

This is like when that CNN freak went to a part of the US border that had a wall and pointed out how no illegal immigration was happening there, ostensibly somehow to rebuke Trump.

It’s like they don’t even notice.

Of course, no serious argument can be made against (much less for) this. It is the argument formation of a preschooler.

Like that beautiful passage, “if everybody prints money at the same time, then you won’t get inflation!”

It’s… It’s really something.

Yet you seem intent on meddling from the comforts of your socialist paradise just the same.

Well duh.

You are biased. You meet a mountain of evidence and continue to dig in, completely undaunted by an ever-growing litany of facts.

Exactly!

It’s borderline tu quoque or “whataboutism” when someone makes a point about A, you say “well what about B?” or “what about you?”

What about democrats? Well what about them? The fact that some of them are conservatives who label themselves democrats means democrats are just as bad?

Hillary Clinton:

[i]She was raised in a politically conservative household,[9] and she helped canvass Chicago’s South Side at age 13 after the very close 1960 U.S. presidential election. She saw evidence of electoral fraud (such as voting list entries showing addresses that were empty lots) against Republican candidate Richard Nixon,[21] and later volunteered to campaign for Republican candidate Barry Goldwater in the U.S. presidential election of 1964.[22]

Rodham’s early political development was shaped mostly by her high school history teacher (like her father, a fervent anti-communist), who introduced her to Goldwater’s The Conscience of a Conservative and by her Methodist youth minister.

In 1965, Rodham enrolled at Wellesley College, where she majored in political science.[24][25] During her freshman year, she served as president of the Wellesley Young Republicans.[26][27] As the leader of this “Rockefeller Republican”-oriented group,[28] she supported the elections of moderate Republicans John Lindsay to Mayor of New York City and Massachusetts Attorney General Edward Brooke to the United States Senate.[29] She later stepped down from this position. In 2003 Clinton would write that her views concerning the American Civil Rights Movement and the Vietnam War were changing in her early college years.[26] In a letter to her youth minister at that time, she described herself as “a mind conservative and a heart liberal”.[30]

To help her better understand her changing political views, Professor Alan Schechter assigned Rodham to intern at the House Republican Conference and she attended the “Wellesley in Washington” summer program.[33] Rodham was invited by moderate New York Republican Representative Charles Goodell to help Governor Nelson Rockefeller’s late-entry campaign for the Republican nomination.[33] Rodham attended the 1968 Republican National Convention in Miami Beach. However, she was upset by the way Richard Nixon’s campaign portrayed Rockefeller and by what she perceived as the convention’s “veiled” racist messages and left the Republican Party for good.[33][/i] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

If not for republican racism, she’d be a republican.

She’s an economic conservative who happens to have a heart for social justice. So for all intents and purposes, she is a conservative. If she wears a democratic badge, so what?

I could paint the same sort of picture of Merkel.

But this is all beside the point that conservative ideals, held and advocated by who-the-hell-ever, are deleterious to the people which is evidenced by anywhere you look and by any metric you choose.

Who said that? :confusion-shrug: Not me. [-X

I said if everyone prints, you won’t get currency devaluation because currencies are valued relative to other currencies.

You have the mistaken notion that money printing is synonymous with price inflation, but you have no idea by what mechanism it possibly could, because you didn’t arrive at that idea as a conclusion, but bought it from a college dropout flunkout asserting economics is just common sense, and now in your endeavor to be praised for your insight, you’re exhibiting your ignorance; a kinda wardrobe malfunction :laughing:

Serendipper:

Oh, please, don’t buy the PR. There are roles to play, like commedia character types, depending on the party. She is certainly neo-con in economic policy and foreign policy, yes. The other stuff is the noises you make if you are a Democrat.

I can believe she has womanly compassion for the oppressed. You don’t think so?

No. I see no reason to believe it. Any, hey, men are capable of empathy. I make no assumptions about a woman politician.

Her husband gutted the social support system and I haven’t heard her criticise that, then or now.
He allowed legislation that put an incredible amount of poor and black in prison. Haven’t heard her criticize that.
He allowed Wall St. to go apeshit. Silent on that.
Her charity was really a way to funnel money toward her.
She supports neo-con moves in foreign policy and that puts poor americans in danger - since they will be the soldiers - and poor foreigners. She’s a hawk.
She has never challenged the policies of the IMF, for example, in the 3rd world.

Given your own thoughts about how horrible the republian policies are for regular people, how can you assume she has empathy when she is essentially for those policies?
Supporting gay rights and other social liberal issues might have more to do with her own social circles than empathy.
And heck, I would guess some republicans supported gay marriage and the like.

I don’t like her either, but all I’m saying is she’s an economic conservative and social liberal. I categorize her as a conservative and see little distinction with any other, except tampons in the mensroom, as if that were a reason to vote for someone. Personally, I’d rather have Trump because he’s a quicker road to Progressiveville than any centrist. I don’t use tampons (except for that time I slashed my leg open and a found a tampon in the glovebox useful, which the nurses at the ER got a big laugh about.)

:laughing:

:astonished:

Now it’s all making sense… I kept telling em it was the preservatives that were gettin me… #-o

…which is why we hope the Government will honour Article 50/the vote to Leave the EU, and give us back control of what goes into our consumerable goods, as that has been taken away from us for decades now.

:laughing:

I’m steering clear of all jabs and processed/articial additive-riddled foods, as I cannot afford to catch a medieval disease… or even current ones for that matter. We find ourselves in troubling times indeed. :eusa-snooty:

I reckon that’s a solution so long as whatever government you end up with is democratic or you’ll be back in the same boat only with the EU as the profiteers of your country’s slave labor like the South would have been in the US had the South won the war. We think it’s bad now with low wages and republican control, just imagine if the South had won their independence; the South would have been the North’s Mexico!

Stay away from homeless communities and standing nails :wink:

And it’s too bad the US won the war against England. All these secessions leading to smaller, less degrees of separation between governed and government. What a bad idea. The Soviet Union should have remained one country.

England is doing better than the US in terms of democracy, happiness, education, health, and is equal on freedom.

The US drags the bottom of the OECD list on just about every metric.

The only reason to split things apart is so one can be better than another. I guess I’m more of a federalist than a republican, as much as I dislike hamilton.

I say Texas should secede then eliminate its minimum wage laws while the rest of the country jacks theirs to $15. Let’s see where the shithole develops. Oh wait, nevermind, we already have Mississippi.

If not for federalism, the south would be slaves to the rest of the country.

But as I said, if the UK has a strong democracy, they should be fine.

Let me laugh at this one just a sec :laughing:

In the last general election, the main more right leaning party got 42.4% of the popular vote, and you need a majority to get in. So they teamed up with this hardcore Christian and Conservative, Northern Irish party, the DUP, who got 0.9% of the popular vote - and as we know from math class, 43.3% of the popular vote is more than half, so they ended up getting into government with a Conservative coalition.

See, the UK equivalent to electoral colleges are “seats”, and 42.4% of the right wing vote is 317 seats (out of 650, i.e. 48.8%), and 0.9% of the right wing vote is 10 seats (1.5% of total seats), taking their combined seats over the 325 seat threshold.

Even better, in the previous general election, the main more right leaning party got 36.9% of the popular vote, which in right wing seats is 330, enough for the Conservatives to get in by themselves “with a majority”…

Add to this the fact that only 2/12 of the UK daily newspapers endorse the more left leaning party. Half of the remaining ones endorsed the more right leaning party, including the most circulated one (a tabloid i.e. trash gossip column) running an incessant campaign to discredit the leader of the more left leaning party, and only retracting what turns out to be lies in some tiny snippets near the end of some subsequent paper after the damage has already been done. This “newspaper” sells really well amongst the poor and working class. There’s also a free paper owned by the owner of another even more right-ring tabloid, that is circulated within London’s underground tube system which gets packed full of people going to and from work every day. The remaining 4 papers don’t endorse anyone.

There are only 3 significant right wing parties in the UK and 6 left of centre, who combined consistently make up the majority of voters, but spread more thinly over more parties.

This is UK democracy.

:laughing:

Yeah, I kinda suspected this would happen, but I didn’t want to presume anything.

That does not bode well. How did it come to this? Is it degenerating or is this improvement from some worse state of affairs?

I wouldn’t mind learning more about UK politics, so whatever you feel like sharing would be appreciated. You know, news that pisses you off or whatever.

And what of the healthcare over there? Is it an object of national pride? Is it good? No good? You guys still using leeches and rusty bone saws over there? :smiley:

Who pays the taxes for it? Is it fair? I started a thread about it viewtopic.php?f=3&t=194808