The Fourteen Cosmological Arguments for the Existence of God

Is a photon “caused” to exist by an excited energy state in an atom? The photon itself is timeless. Is the word “cause” inappropriate?

If photons are timeless that means they never began or end (no creation/cause necessary!). Yes, the word cause is inappropriate in that example!

Never began or end IN TIME, true. But, special consideration must be given to their appearance and disappearance which is non-temporally caused. I see nothing wrong in using the word “cause”, especially in light of the lack of alternative words to describe this process.

By analogy, you can see how a timeless photon can become part of matter which is subject to time. Likewise, an indivisible unit of spacetime can be spaceless and timeless, but become part of the larger world of spacetime. Weird stuff.

Well then, don’t use the word ‘process’ either, it’s also temporal.

See where I’m going with this?

You’re trying to argue that static makes non static.

Static is non existence. It doesn’t make anything.

A photon is timeless. And photons do make matter. So, the static can in fact make the non-static.

You’re wrong. Photons are static and photons exist.

Photons move (time) they are not static.

No. Photons are timeless.

“A photon cannot see or experience anything, as it turns out. It’s true that time doesn’t pass for a photon: in relativity, it represents what we call a null geodesic. It travels from its point-of-origin to its point-of-termination: from where an interaction creates (or emits) it to where another interaction destroys (or absorbs) it. This is exactly what happens whether it’s emission/absorption, emission/reflection, a scattering interaction, or any type of interplay with another particle.“

forbes.com/sites/startswith … -universe/

That’s bullshit. A photon travels at 186,287 miles per second. Very well known fact.

It’s not bs. It’s General Relativity. Take it up with Einstein if you don’t like it.

You want to talk about Einstein?!

Sure, let’s do it!

E=MC^2! Right?

Do you know what the ‘C’ in that equation means?

It means ‘cosmological constant’. How the fuck can you square something that by definition can’t be squared ?!?

My grandfather used to travel as a job to places like area 54 and Area 51 all over the world … one thing he told me… “don’t believe any of your physics books”

I figured it out myself … E=MC^2 is crap logic!

You can square the speed of light.

The speed of light is the “cosmological constant”.

The fastest possible speed! You can’t even add anything to it! Let alone square it.

This is the problem with the general public! They can’t think! They regurgitate!

You can certainly square a number which represents the speed of light.

Anyway, no one in over a century has proven a single flaw in General Relativity.

I just disproved it for you. The highest speed possible cannot be added to. Man, you really don’t get it, you’ve been taught a lie.

Even if you believe the lie:

Einstein proved the “special theory of relativity”

He never solved the “general theory of relativity” though he tried!

That you didn’t even know that, means you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about!

E=MC^2 simply means that mass has a ton of energy in it. This is proven by the atomic bomb.

That’s funny! Why ‘squared’ instead of ‘plus 1’ or even ‘cubed’ for that matter?!?!

I didn’t think this would become a physics thread, as in “physics proves god created existence”. But for some bizarre reason, you had to go there.

I use all tools at my disposal, including physics.

And like I just demonstrated, those tools suck.

Light is considered by physics the cosmological constant. It’s not infinite. It’s 186,000 miles per second. But because it’s considered the cosmological constant (by definition!) how can anything possibly move faster than it?!?!

Basic, basic logic!

The fastest thing in existence is thought!

E=MC^2 is not claiming anything goes faster than light. It is only showing energy and mass equivalence.

By order of operations in math C^2 is done first (Before multiplication).