wait wut?
hey at least we know now that it was pedro watching my vid 80 times
lol
No doubt about it: “young and beautiful”
K: as one who is no longer “young and beautiful” but old
and decrepit…I no longer worship at the house of the
“young and beautiful”… but why Kropotkin? jealous much?
no, not at all… for when I see one who is “young and beautiful”
I also see that one day soon, sooner then one thinks, that
they grow old and decrepit…youth and beauty are just a moment in
time… as is old age and middle age and childhood… just brief moments
that don’t last long…
the truth is that youth and beauty are just fleeting moments
that don’t last long… but seeking, seeking can last a lifetime…
the truth that one pursues can last an entire lifetime…
the beauty of the flesh only last a short period but beauty
in form such as paintings and ART and science and philosophy
can last one’s lifetime and beyond…
do I accept the Platonic idea of “TWO WORLDS” no, no I don’t…
but I do understand even ART and paintings and literature, beauty
of form, can only last so long… much of what was “beautiful” in the
ancient world is long gone… grounded into dust… and much of what
we consider to be beautiful today, will be gone soon, also ground into
dust…
so Kropotkin, what exactly is permanent? nothing as far as I can see…
but that doesn’t stop our search for what it means to be human…
and that search, for what it means to be human, doesn’t end in one or
two lifetimes, but is a search that has lasted since the beginning of human
beings… and certainly was an essential part of the “Greek” experience…
to discover that which makes us different then animals or as the “Greeks” might
have called them “Barbarians” those humans who were “uncivilized” or
“primitive”…
and what does this have to do with being “young and beautiful”?
why everything… you just have to connect the dots…
Kropotkin
I hear you. But tell that to Pedro, Prom75, Satyr and god knows how many others for whom “young and beautiful” is “naturally” where it all begins.
Me? Sure, if I wasn’t “old and decrepit” myself, I might be in the thick of it. But it’s her intrepid intellect and wicked wit that would ever and always be where it must begin for fools like me. 
im vain as fuck
but not because of my looks
i am well on my way to old and decrepit
it doesn’t bother me
i never gave too much emphasis to that
if anything looks have always been a hurdle
in the way of being taken seriously
cuz i was a brainy kid
i never even realized boys were a “thing” until i was like 20
yet nobody ever thinks i’ve earned anything through hard work
people assume that i get stuff handed to me because i’m pretty
but i’m a badass
Christians debating beauty.
God save us.
Pedro, Prom75, Satyr [for starters]: You’re up.
What I do know is that she will give you a flawless philosophical genealogy of “beauty,” while you will have trouble finding your nose if you want to pick it.
Maybe you hold her looks against her because you don’t want to admit the above is true?
I’m a little embarrassed that she will feel the need to defend it, but that’s the effect communist propaganda has had on the world.
If anything, it betrays the nobility of beautiful people that they have let you blackmail them like this.
So you say. But she still refuses to take this to the philosophy board and in a civil exchange examine “beauty” as a more or less historical, cultural, circumstantial component of dasein, or, instead, as something that can be more or less pinned down objectively.
For me, “beauty” will always be profoundly, problematically entangled in both genes and memes. An “existential contraption” embodied in individual lives that can be very, very, very different.
In other words, beyond the consummate reach of philosophers or scientists or artists.
And I don’t hold her youth and beauty against her. Any more than I held the youth and beauty of Supannika against her. But I know for certain that Supannika placed it far down on the list of what mattered to her. With phoneutria, I’m considerably less certain of that.
Perhaps because I have, well, never actually met her. 
K: two points, I agree with you up to a point, but that is “beauty”
can be examined and understood by philosophers, scientist and Artist…
I believe Artists examine “BEAUTY” all the time and make judgments about
it all the time…their entire “Raison d’etre” is to search out and judge beauty…
secondly, who the hell is Supannika? never heard of her, him, it? Inquiring minds
want to know… or do we?
Kropotkin
This I suggest we all take to a brand new thread.
Start here: ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop … a#p2780296
K: ok thanks, I think and about beauty, I agree with the thought of a new thread…
I shall begin…if that is all right to you?
Kropotkin
Yeah you old bastards, leave this thread for people who want to post pictures of themselves.
Jesus Christ.
K: leave this thread to people who want to post picture of themselves
like this?
Kropotkin
