nihilism

dont fucking talk to me you chomo piece of shit perv

I’ont even know y u r talkin to me dude. They kill guys like me in prison.

Well they try too, anyway. spits

P.s. I prefer the title ‘diaper sniper’.

fuck off

Who knows. There was a time back when ILP was much, much closer to being an actual philosophy venue. A time when those like Only_Humean moderated actual philosophical discussions. Back in the days of moreno and phyllo and von rivers and faust. Back when Carleas himself often participated in the discussions. Then the Kids and the fulminating fanatics and the social media types took over. For a while it reached the point where going by this…

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…Carleas would only only pop in here every few weeks.

Then out of the blue he’s back. With this thread: ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop … 7&t=196976

It seemed possible that we might be on the road back to what I call “substantive exchanges”.

Then this: ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop … 4#p2814234

Polish Youth is toast, right?

Nope, he’s still around and, again, going by this…

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…it’s been almost a week since Carleas was last here.

alrighty then

haha kooks liars chomos neo-nazis autistic virgins…wtf is this fucking space…im out…hhahaha WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

u can check out any time u like

but u can never leave…

fuck off you chomo…where the fuck did that cunt kook SATIRE get this forum from??? LMAO!!!one forum full of virgin autistic Yank neo-nazis liars sitting around playing video games at 40 and waiting for the world to end this forum a pedo tolerating fucking kooks wtf!!!I am out of here this is too much!!!a perv known to be a chomo is tolerated and spoken to like a good old friend…WTF!!!

Hmm well I think most healthy adult males have a natural erotic attraction to well developed adolescent females, but would never violate the particular laws pertaining to such things in their society… observing age of consent laws and so forth. This leaves two other types left; the healthy adult males who have this natural attraction but lie to others about it, and the unhealthy (somehow impotent or maybe with very low libidinal energies) adult males who don’t experience sexual arousal here.

The former type I laugh at, the latter type I feel pity for.

Which 1 r u, young pole?

Remember: it’s okay to admit this attraction, but not okay to act on it (normal folks I mean. I’m exempt from normality and technically stopped observing the laws in 2010. Incidentally, that was the last time I flashed anyone. I got the whole thing ass backwards).

Here let me explain. If my reason for justifying my exhibitionistic behavior is because I have become an anarchist who observes no laws after being betrayed by the state in a wrongful conviction, given a life sentence, and in losing all my property to the police (they stole it), then I would not be able to justify until after 2010, since that was the year of the wrongful conviction and everything that followed. And yet I’ve been arrested several times for misdemeanor indecent exposure long before any of this happened. Lol that’s funny shit.

The irony here is: when I am technically able to justify my lawlessness and enjoy a bit if exhibitionism, I have no more desire to do it. So that’s how I got it assbackwards.

Naw, p-youf… don’t get quiet now!

I’m bout to change ur whole shit up, son. You ain’t even gonna be able to sleep tonight u goofy ass lookin mufucka.

Goddamn if u gonna take this long then fuck it I surrender

I dont talk to chomo pervs.

Ur not even gonna try and help me through this terrible, evil affliction?

That’s just crazy. After all we’ve been through 2gether.

I swear to god if u don’t help me I’ll cut the goddamn thing off!!

In defense of Nihilism in the modern day
Ayush

Actually, in my view, this all gets entangled in means and ends. Then it can become particularly murky. For example, when the word nihilism pops up in the news it is almost always in regard to means…to the “terrorist” tactics deployed by the “nihilists” involved. Blowing up the World Trade center is the epitome of nihilism for some.

Again, the irony being that they do things like this precisely because they are anything but nihilist in regard to the ends behind the means. Whether they be theocrats, Communists or Nazis, it is precisely the sacred “kingdom of ends” they embrace that allow them to justify the use of “any means necessary”.

In other words, whatever that means. Ever and always going back to the elusive understanding of where genes end and memes begin. Abandoning the notion of the objectivists among us that they and only they know precisely where that is. In, among other things, one or another “ism”. Or TOE.

Here you would have to follow those who call themselves nihilists around and then when they do something that you wouldn’t do you can ask them why they did it. How they themselves make the distinction between doing it because it seems like the reasonable thing to do in order to benefit them or because on a more visceral level they just went for it “in the moment”. Like, say, the sociopaths among us.

In defense of Nihilism in the modern day
Ayush

Here, nihilism isn’t all that different from all the other “isms”. There is what you believe about your place in the world around you and there is the actual set of circumstances you find yourself in. Life might have no essential meaning for you but there is plenty of existential meaning around. So, sure, you might think your life is ultimately without purpose…but that doesn’t necessarily make the food you eat less delicious, or the music that you listen to less sublime, or the friendships you accumulate less fulfilling, or the sex you have less satisfying.

This is a point I often come back to. Once you are locked into moral and political objectivism – in either a God or No God world – your options are either/or. You either do the right thing or the wrong thing. It’s just a matter of what the reward is. It could be pats on the back from all the rest to our own “one of us” clique…or it could be Heaven itself. Though, sure, the psychological comfort and consolation here is no small thing. Still, that won’t increase your options any. Your freedom still revolves around one of another dogmatic agenda.

This sort of assessment is always going to be rooted subjectively in dasen. As though when you capitalize Nihilism you are configuring it into the Real Thing. Existentialism starts with the assumption that existence is prior to essence. But that will always mean different things to different people in different sets of circumstances.

Everything here comes down you how radical you insist on being in regard to what is said to be meaningful. Here the sociopath can scoff at the existentialists with their alleged “authenticity” bullshit and insist that absolutely nothing is beyond justifying if morality itself is said to revolve around me, myself and I in a No God world.

Finding Purpose Through Nihilism
By Daniel L. Leonard at the Harvard Crimson

Bingo. With me it was Walt Fuchs. Chair of the philosophy department at Towson State University. Along with his then wife Joann Fuchs. Only it was probably me that framed our discussions more along the lines of nihilism. Active or otherwise. That being the case because back then they were more committed to Marxism than I was. I was beginning to stumble head over heels into the implications of the “rival goods” that William Barrett had introduced me to.

Yes! Back again to that. The manner in which the assumptions embedded in nihilism regarding the existence or lack thereof of essential meaning, can have a profound impact on the manner in which you approach options in your life. The more convinced you are that one or another “ism” – fascism, socialism, paganism – is the one True Path the more you are obligated to act accordingly. You sustain the comfort and consolation of believing in the one True Path but in any number of contexts you can find yourself “stuck” on it.

As for “fulfillment”, that get’s trickier. At least for me. Yes, if you can think yourself into embracing a purpose in your life through nihilism then you need go no further. On the other hand, any number of nihilists [like me] find themselves “fractured and fragmented” in regard to that crucial meaning and purpose revolving around moral and political value judgments. And then those who rationalize a sociopathic frame of mind. You choose to pursue things based solely on the assumption that in a No God world, if it brings you pleasure and fulfilment then do it. Others be damned.

Finding Purpose Through Nihilism
By Daniel L. Leonard at the Harvard Crimson

Then immediately the irony that revolves around how a nihilist might attempt to explain the meaning of that. Not that there actually is a one-size-fits-all nihilism here that all nihilists can concur with.

As definitions go, sure, this gets closer to my own rooted-existentially-in-dasein understanding of nihilism. Revolving around meaning and purpose as they pertain to “how ought one to live?” Then opposed to the dogmas of the objectivists: the perspectives of religious or political or ideological or deontological or materialist/naturalist agendas.

As for the laws of physics, well, we know how far that can be taken, don’t we?

Here though nihilism gets entangled in political economy. Hundreds and thousands of “Harvard men and women” who have no doubt gone on to become thoroughly enmeshed in a global economy owned and operated by those that I construe to be nihilists.

Nihilism in the sense that what motivates them by and large are two things:

1] show me the money
2] what’s in it for me

When it comes to that, you won’t find many fractured and fragmented personalities in, among organizations, the Bilderberg Group.

Though, sure, in regard to to any number of “social issues” or “value voter issues” they might embrace a more or less idealist/objectivist frame of mind. The part, in other words, rooted in dasein.

As for what we should fear, is it not still the fulminating fanatics at either end of the political spectrum. Here for example those who rally around things like “The Coalition of Truth”, or who spout one or another TOE in which you are either “one of them”…or else.

“Else” depending only on how much power they have to enforce their own authoritarian/totalitarian dogmas.

Finding Purpose Through Nihilism
By Daniel L. Leonard at the Harvard Crimson

It is certainly the nihilism that I have avoided. On the other hand, come on, once you do manage to convince yourself that in a No God world, your very existence itself is essentially – essentially – meaningless and purposeless, it is likely that you will come at least in the vicinity of depression. And I am no exception here either. How can it not be depressing at times to contemplate the supposed “brute facticity” of everything. You squash a bug and think of all the billions of years that had to pass in order that it existed at all. And then just like, it’s flattened. And you know that one way or another nature will flatten you too. Back to the oblivion from whence you came.

Okay, but, once again, this is always dependent on the actual situation that you find yourself in. Do you have the option to embody this freedom? Will others allow you to embody it as you would like to? Are you someone just months or weeks or days away from oblivion itself? Are you able to reconcile yourself [as I must] with accepting a fractured and fragmented “self” in confronting conflicting goods?

In other words, ever and always the gap between discussing “active nihilism” philosophically as the author does here and actually having to live with it in the particular world you find yourself in.

And, again, those either indoctrinated into believing in objective morality or who have come on their own to accept it – religious or secular – still have a measure of comfort and consolation that “active nihilism” can never provide.

Yes, there is that side of the coin. But, on the other side of it, are those “active nihilists” who tend more toward the ominous and destructive lives rooted in, among other things, the sociopathic mentality. Or rooted in the mentality of those who own and operate the global economy…lives more or less dedicated to the credo “show me the the money” and “what’s in it more me?”

And to hell with all those who get in their way.